LessonInMachismo

Can anybody tell me Batista's ethnic background? He is either Hispanic-American or Italian-American. They bill him from Washington, DC, and that city has a high population of people from El Salvador (and probably other Latin-Americans). While we're on the topic, is Al Snow also of a Hispanic origin? I remember years back they had some kind of Latin-American rally and Eddie was on stage with Al and somebody else.

SO HHHow did you come to that conclusion?

Batista...cool, calm, collective.

There wouldn't be much sleep...

<<Well, WWE's track record of pointless debuts continues.>> Unveiling!

I get the feeling that we'll get either an Edge vs. Angle vs. HBK three way at 21, or an E&C vs. HBK and Orton tag match. How could Meltzer say that this Masters gimmick is a Rick Rude throwback?

You mean commentator Vince McMahon or boss Vince McMahon?

Thanks a million.

That's a damn good idea. Either HBK takes Teddy's Contract, or Orton will to face Undertaker. ::Holds arms out to sides, palms up:: Let's see, Orton vs. Undertaker or HBK vs. Angle...

What with the reports of Vince being in bad shape and HHH and Stephanie being in complete control backstage, do you think it's possible that the driver of the limo is Stephanie and that this is a prelude to a return to TV full time for her?

Eric really was telling things as he truly saw them. Doesn't mean he's not deluding himself, but he was saying what he really thinks. It wouldn't be the first time he's denied a reality that was obvious to the rest of the world. I don't think there was anything wrong with what he did, regardless of his delusions. "What he did" meaning the "raiding" of talent.

I have figured it out...the driver was HHH himself. How? My friends, we are witnessing the beginning of...The Schemer-Clone Saga!

If he keeps dressing like this and running to the ring like a wild man, he will quickly become one of my favorite wrestlers.

Asshole, now everyone in the college library is staring at me. So you like Leia Organa. Check out THIS pic, supposedly from her liason with Prince Xizor... Leia lookin' oh so nice...

If only we had 24/7... Yeah, I remember everyone, from Bobby to the color commentators, saying "Harley Race is in the hospital at the hands of Hulk Hogan!" yep thats what he kept doing. they did the 10-bell salute with Heenan, Andre, Rude and Hercules and Heenan announced at the end that shortly he would announce the new King. (which was Haku seen as though they had nothing for him when Tama and the other very brief Islander High-Chief Afi were fired) My favourite WWF skits were anything with Heenan and Monsoon (even if it was just commentating a match, they were that good!!) Or Monsoon and Jesse... And why were Tama and Afi fired?

What about Hogan? Bright red spandex tights, cowboy boots, a spandex muscle shirt, weightlifter's belt, bandana and sunglasses.

If only we had 24/7... Yeah, I remember everyone, from Bobby to the color commentators, saying "Harley Race is in the hospital at the hands of Hulk Hogan!"

"Further reports suggest that Dean Malenko is going around claiming to wrestlers that he slept with Lita in 2001." Credit: Iwouldntdoubtit.com

When I first came to the forums one month ago, that's what I thought it was, but I wasn't sure. That movie sure is going to own our asses. I have converted many to the Firefly cause. On London's boots... He even LOOKS like Kerry in this cap: London

RRR, what is that Serenity avatar of yours?

Don't forget the Steiner screwdriver, arguably his best finisher. Scott actually used the Frankie at least once during the Big Poppa Pump era, probably in '99. I remember because Tony or Tenay was surprised that he was using the move.

Only if they include the "BIG DAVE Pimpride." Only $63,000 at the ShopZone!

Race was known for going for his signature headbutts outside the ring and always missing (kinda like Flair going to the top rope and getting thrown off 99.67% of the time). I highly doubt he was suppose to land the move. He simply landed on the wrong part of the table. I was speaking in facetious, kayfabe terms.

Nobody is saying he was a bad draw. Just a bad worker. Hogan drew a ton of money. I don't think anybody would confuse him with a good worker. -=Mike I can't stand any of those old-timers, like Ole and Verne Gagne. I remember on that hilarious cable pro wrestling special, Gagne was running down Hogan for his ring work. It's too bad he let Hogan go to WWF and kill his AWA and everyone else. Kudos to Bruno for selling out the Garden so many times. But in this day and age, fans will not accept substandard ring work. No, I don't mean foreigners doing backflips and two guys doing mat wrestling...I mean making it look good and hard and real. Even in the late 80's, some guys were doing some weak-looking shit, and they got a pass. If you look at Demolition's Decapitation, these days it'd be called a botch the way they did it half the time. No pass for anyone today. The point is...these fossils don't get that enough was enough and it was time for a change. Let the Living Legend sit there with his pride while Vince and company laugh their way to the bank.

No. He shouldn't. Much as Joe and Bruno in the same ring would make me giddy, it's just a bad idea. RoH has the same things wrong with it that Bruno sees in WWE. Gimmicks (Jimmy Jacobs, Delerious), glorification on what's morally wrong (Special K, Jack Evans) and profanity. In short, would you show RoH to a 10 year old? Pro wrestling is about drawing money. Pulling people of all ages and sizes. Bruno could draw from Grade School to the Senior homes. That's the commanding presence the man had. Was he a great worker in today's standards? No. But he was in yesteryear's. The MSG record does speak for itself. No one else will be able to touch it. He was a true success in this business because he drew money. Same as Hogan. Same as Flair. Same as Backlund (first reign.) And heels have to draw money in the eager hope they'll get what's coming to them. As I recall, right behind the amount of people who wanted to see Bruno win at MSG is the amount of the people that wanted to see Superstar Billy Grahmn lose at MSG. Sadly enough, RoH does not have a product that can draw money over a long period of time, much as we all want it to. Pro wrestling, kayfabe wise, is Good Vs. Evil. Not smark favorite combat. RoH (despite few others figuring this out) is an ECW wolf in 90's AJPW sheepskin. Yes, RoH has produced good matches and good shows. But, like ECW, they only appeal to a small audience, and unlike ECW, RoH's audience is even smaller. But, then again, I think the future of pro wrestling is Austin Aries, so... In short: Bruno commands respect for being successful like no one else. Didn't have "mad skills", didnt have a gorgeous body, but what he DID have was more than enough. And what Vince is trying to do is disrespectful, really. It never really had credibility, and Rose didnt help. As an asspiring wrestler, I'd be much more honored to be in the Cauliflower Alley Club than the WWE Hall of Fame. But that's just me, and I'm pretty sure I'm crazy. Is that a vornskr in your sig? Vornskr