Team Angle Pusher

How about most long title reigns. A long title reign is 6 months

1. Brock Lesnar: Yea, he was shoved down our throats but we accepted it quickly, we saw his huge talent and if he stayed with the company he really would have been the next big thing in wrestling 2. JBL: It was a weird booking move making JBL champion but now look at the internet. Most of us love JBL's influence on Smackdown!. He cuts good promo's, has a good stable and has tons of heat. He made his character work and now to me he's a real main eventer. 3. John Cena: He can't work a good match, only with guys like Angle and Benoit. But that doesn't matter at the top. The people love him and he's getting The Rock-like pops. They created a new star. 4. Batista: A great example of the crowd suddenly liking a guy, like they now do with Christian. A Heel gets big Face pops and the WWE capatalizes on that and pushes him. Same with The Rock and to an extent John Cena. 5. Randy Orton: He had a good IC Title reign and he looked good after Backlash. But he was rushed way too fast into the World Title scene. He got some cheers so the WWE turned him Face and pushed him but it went wrong, it turned out only the girls cheered for Randy. His whole push went wrong but he's now a accepted upper midcarder. Not a star but a solid upper midcarder. ===== I think the WWE is finally doing some good things again. They focused much more on the wrestling part this week and everybody loved it. Good storylines, good promo's. The crowd ate Eddie Guerrero's heel turn op and the fans god emotionally involved (someone in this thread said the crowd isn't doing that anymore but it happened). So....things are looking up again maybe.

Eddie Guerrero - WCW, ECW, WWE Chris Jericho - ditto some more guys JBL - WWE 4-life Undertaker - WWE 4-life Hardcore Holly - WWE 4-life etc...

Booker T - World Heavyweight Title (in 2003) Rhyno and Chris Benoit - WWE Tag Team Titles (I think in late 2002, early 2003)

Al Snow Booker T

I hated the divas. I also find it weird then Dawn Marie actually wanted to dance with them in the beginning because she is a Heel but luckily she went into Heel mode when Heidenreich asked them if they were his friends. Bit stupid segment but this makes Heidenreich a Face

Problem is MNM and Eddie don't like each other. In fact, Eddie still hates them because they took the titles of him. So as things are looking now Eddie won't team up with them. MNM vs. Los Guerreros vs. Rey Mysterio/insert player here, for the Tag Titles. MNM get away with the belts while the Rey/Eddie story continues.

Or Benoit flying through the ropes right into a steel chair by Edge. I thought that was pretty sick although he has done it before. I remember Jericho vs. Benoit from I think 2000 in a Ladder match where Jericho did the same to Benoit

The writers did....

Does anybody else see Eddie Guerrero beating Mysterio by cheating at J-Day, then Eddie wins the WWE Title and Mysterio goes after Eddie and eventually wins the title. I can see it happen

Sean O'Haire Lance Storm

Jesus to be Carlito's useless helper.

What's the purpose of the Masterlock Challenge and Kurt Angle's Medal Challenge, or Matt Morgan's challenge? It has to lead to SOMETHING but I don't think it is, I think the writers just don't know what to do with them so they let them do squash matches. Where do these challenges lead to?

I don't think John Bradshaw Layfield will win the title back, he'll be forever known as the guy who had a long ass title reign but also a 1-time champion. Some say Cena will hold it longer then JBL, I think that's bullshit. Nobody will surpass JBL's title reign in the upcoming 10 years and besides Cena's reign would already be stale after 6 months. So who will he lose it to? Kurt Angle? JBL? Booker T? CHRISTIAN? Big Show? Undertaker? (god no...) Rob Van Dam? Eddie Guerrero? Rey Mysterio? Matt Mmmmmmorrrgg...morgan? Ideas?

We had a ECW history one, now the history of the Horsemen. Long read: 1985 It all started as a family business. Arn and Ole Anderson, the future spine of the 4 Horsemen, had a personal vision.. and it all involved the tag team title belts. To understand the bold nature of this mission, you must first understand that the tag team division in this era was extremely competitive, with such legendary names as the Midnight Express, the Rock and Roll Express and the Road Warriors, as well as singles workers pairing themselves as a team in hopes of capturing the gold. While Vince would boast such legendary alliances as the original Hart Foundation, the Rockers, the British Bulldogs and eventually the Andersons, there was little doubt where the best action in the nation was kept. As such, these belts were no laughing matter. Ole held one of these belts alongside his partner at the time, Thunderbolt Patterson. Suddenly, one week in the blunt nature that would over time become the Horsemen's own, Ole walked out to an interview segment and effectively told T-Bolt that the team's best days were behind them. To his partner's face, Ole Anderson announced he was dissolving their coalition in favor of a run with his brother, Arn.. and he was taking the titles with him. Before Patterson had a chance to react, Ole had left the set. No questions asked, no room to retort. One week later, Arn was participating in a singles match while Ole supported him at the announce table. As the match became increasingly competitive, it was slowly becoming evident that the younger Anderson's opponent had the upper hand. That all changed in an instant, though, as Ole had jumped into the ring and the match was thrown out. As the bell incessantly rang, the Andersons effectively stomped the fight out of the enforcer's opponent with no sign of slowing down.. which brought out former tag team champion T-Bolt Patterson. As Ole and his former partner exchanged words, Arn came from out of nowhere, blindsiding Patterson and sending him to the mat in a heap. Initially hesitant, Ole had no choice but to help in the beating once Patterson started to fight back. Working as a team, the two announced themselves the new tag team champions, the Minnesota Wrecking Crew. While the uproar began in the tag team scene, it gained a head of steam and national attention in the World Title scene. At the time, our World Champ was none other than the Nature Boy, Ric Flair.. but things weren't always going according to the champ's well-orchestrated plans. As always, Flair was the dirtiest player in the game and often escaped with his pride intact and belt around his waist by only the skin of his teeth. Embarrassment is an emotion with which Flair's never been comfortable, and as his opponents came closer and closer to an upset victory throughout his ongoing 2-year title reign, he began to realize a little help was necessary. Honestly, it couldn't have arrived at a better time.. Flair's next scheduled opponent was the fastest rising star in the NWA (compared by many to the god-like Hulk Hogan at the time), Magnum TA. As Flair defended his title against an unproven challenger, Sam Houston, Magnum made his way to the announce table (then located beside the backstage curtain, as opposed to ringside), where the announcers welcomed him and took their attention away from the predictable Nature Boy cakewalk which was transpiring in the ring. Upon seeing this, Flair stopped the match and made his way to the table to remind the announcers, fans and especially TA why they were here. As the match continued, Flair was given a surprisingly strong fight but eventually claimed the victory with his figure four leglock. However, Ric wasn't satisfied with a clean victory.. post-match, he only relinquished the hold long enough to remove Houston's boot before strapping it back on and making a terrible effort to end the young man's career. TA made the obligatory save, and an instant rivalry was born. Meanwhile, Sam Houston.. technically far from a legend, actually played a large role in the history of the Horsemen. But we'll see more about that a bit later. In typical Flair style, his mouth and wallet would attempt an escape long before a physical confrontation was in order. Thus, one week later Flair arrived for another title defense showcasing his brand new suit. Claiming it cost an exorbinant amount of money, he left it at the announce position as a sort of peace offering for TA. It wasn't long before the young challenger arrived to claim his prize, and he brought it with him to the ring where Flair was waiting. As TA went on about how wonderful the suit was, Flair gushed with pride. Moments later, however, Magnum began tearing the suit apart, and when he made the mistake of turning his back Flair called him on it. TA was expecting it though, and swiftly caught Flair in a belly to belly suplex.. his trademark maneuver. As Flair lay in the ring, TA calmly grabbed the World Title from ringside and left it with the announcers. Before departing, Magnum stated "The next time I touch this belt, it'll be mine." Weeks passed, and TA demanded his title shot.. while Flair avoided the issue, claiming Magnum wasn't worth his time. "The Man" even went so far as to say he could beat the young upstart in 10 minutes. Calling his bluff, TA stepped from backstage and slapped down the gauntlet, putting $10,000 on the line against Flair's claims of a ten minute victory. It was too late to back down, so into the ring we went as Ric Flair attempted to take home the short victory, effectively stamping out the small fire TA had lit underneath of him. As the match was nearly set to go, Ole and Arn stepped from behind the curtains and took up choice seats at the announce table. As an interesting sidenote, the Andersons claimed Flair as a long lost cousin during this same broadcast. The match itself was a seesaw battle with neither man taking a distinct advantage. As the match drew near the 10-minute mark, Magnum put Flair in his own figure four leglock, holding the submission maneuver until time had expired. Amidst the announcers' shrieks, the Andersons had seen enough and stormed the ring. While Magnum fought the good fight, the odds turned out to be unbeatable, and the three men beat him mercilessly. As the three attempted to break the rising superstar's arm, help finally arrived in the form of Sam Houston, Buzz Sawyer and various other backstage athletes. The damage had been done, however, and this new coalition was one that Magnum could never overcome. Title match after title match would come down to the wire before Anderson interference would end the bout in a DQ. Some time later, TA had moved from the World Title scene, instead setting his sites on the tag team straps. Alongside his partner at the time, the immortal Dusty Rhodes, Magnum's shot was to come on a televised NWA program. Just before match time, Magnum took time backstage to pre-tape a challenge toward one Tully Blanchard. Suddenly, without warning, the Minnesota Wrecking Crew hit the scene and dismantled the surprised young star. Concentrating on the ribs and torso, the two made short work of the challenger before taking out the cameraman and marching down the entryway for their title defense. While the champions stood in the ring, Dusty made a brief appearance, asking for a few more minutes' time, given the circumstances. Before an official decision could be made, the Wrecking Crew had jumped Rhodes from behind and drug him into the ring. As the gangland beating continued, Terry Taylor attempted a save to no avail. As the Andersons beat on the two men, Magnum TA stumbled from backstage; battered, beaten and broken. As one can expect, even his best efforts weren't enough and he almost immediately fell before the champions. The beating continued until more backstage help finally drove the future Horsemen off. While Rhodes left the scene under his own power, Magnum was taken out of the ring on a stretcher. Later in the night, TA showed his guts by completing the challenge that had started backstage hours earlier.. this time from the hospital. As Magnum and Rhodes focused on the tag team titles, Flair wasn't exactly having an easy go of it as World Champion. Fending off more and more challengers ranking from rookie lightweight to veteran heavy and everything in between, Flair had managed to hold onto his belt.. but things weren't getting any easier. Following a particularly difficult cage match with Nikita Koloff (in which Flair had taken the clean win), an enraged Koloff and his Uncle Ivan overwhelmed Ric. While the two tore Flair apart, Dusty Rhodes ran to the scene and made the save for his longtime enemy. After the Russians had been chased from the ring, Rhodes checked on Flair.. who looked up at Rhodes and began to berate him! As the American Dream tried to reason with him, the Andersons stormed into the cage and blindsided poor Dusty. Flair saw this going down and rose to his feet, shying away from the beating only to seal the cage door. As the assault continued, focusing on Rhodes's knee, help swarmed from the back and finally broke into the cage. The attack had been halted, but the damage was done. Dusty's leg was in poor shape. About a week later, Flair was back in the ring with Sam Houston. After nearly dropping his earlier defense against the rookie, Ric wanted to prove it was a fluke with a decisive victory here. Following a solid defense, Flair had done his job but wanted to ensure no threat remained for the future; he called Arn Anderson to the ring and the two attempted to deliver the same beating as was given to Dusty Rhodes not long beforehand. Without the aid of a steel cage though, this assault fell short and the American Dream himself hit the scene. Complete with a steel-toed cowboy boot, created so Dusty could continue working despite his injury, Rhodes made the best of a bad situation and used his new bit of ring garb to chase Flair and the Andersons from the battlegrounds. In just a few more weeks' time, poor Sam Houston had returned to action against Tully Blanchard in what was supposedly a safe matchup. It wasn't long, though, before the Andersons appeared yet again. At first patiently observing from ringside, the duo made their move minutes into the match.. and Tully didn't seem to have anything against it. While Blanchard held the maligned Houston, Ole and Arn tore into his left arm, putting him right back out of action for an additional set of months. After being chased from the ring, Tully celebrated with the Minnesota Wrecking Crew and Flair, as the four ran the NWA roster ragged. J.J. Dillon, who had previously joined Blanchard as manager, now accompanied the quartet. It all became official on a spring night in 1986, nearly one full year after the ball began rolling.. and Arn set it in stone with a name that would last through the ages. Asked to fill remaining TV time, the four came out to close the program with an interview. After Flair had said his piece, Arn took the mic and told us all that we were witnessing history. Only once had so much damage been caused by so few, Arn screamed, "and to find that source you need to go all the way back to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse." The name stuck, and pro wrestling's first major stable was born. With the battle lines drawn, the four had their work cut out for them in the months to come. The Andersons had a strong hold on their US Tag Team Titles, but the threat in that category would be a constant one. Flair's World Title, easily more highly contested and defended than Hogan's WWF belt, was always a target with everyone from seasoned veterans to hopeful rookies demanding a shot. Under the guide of J.J. Dillon, the Horsemen had a definite direction and a plan. And don't count out Dusty Rhodes or Magnum TA just yet..

Will they do a storyline about Edge/Matt because check this out. Just appeared on WWE shopzone: Matt Hardy's new shirt... Why would they sell them? They said he never sold many merchandise anyway.

Dudley Boyz to even things up. And they will start a feud with MNM and go for the Tag Titles. Makes sense doesn't it?

Is the WWE finally doing good again? Putting on good shows. The storylines are going somewhere. Backlash was great, WrestleMania was great, No Way Out was better then expected, Royal Rumble was decent. They are entertaining me big time. Hell, they even made a Viscera/Kane angle work and now people are cheering for Viscera!

Belee dat playa. Hardcore Holly, JBL

Didn't he already break his frigging neck from going THROUGH the f'n roof?

I got it off Obsessed with Wrestling somewhere. Great find. Just save it on your computer.

How about Benjamin/Benoit?

Thank you god. I have been looking all over for this. TSM rules and so does Matt Young

Matt Morgan for WWE Cccchhhaammm..chumm...champ!

Yeah me too. It's time to let newcomers step up