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4 months and Trump couldn't take the stunner properly. He did that on purpose.

well, RVD re-upped.

I liked the freaks segment last year more but Steamboat was worth it.

Kane could have at least taken the spot on the hook at the end.

Reminder. AIM CHAT @ TSMWM.

Obviously it was planned but it just doesn't look good at all. He's a good seller, yes but that was scary.

Top spots were 1. Jeff crashing through Ladder on Edge. 2. Kennedy's spot on Hornswoggle 3. Orton's RKO off top of the ladder on Punk 4. Booker's reaction to the step-ladder and Punk cleaning house with it

That was a seriously scary spot with Edge and Jeff. Match was fine. Much better then last year but lacked the emotional power of the first.

It's his first. He was injured last time. This show has a good number of virgins making their first Mania. Including Sabu, Sandman and Dreamer whom have worked for almost 2 decades.

Neil, MitB is the opener. Reminder to those that missed it on the previous page AIM CHAT @ TSMWM

It's a big event, obviously. So we should do another AIM Chat. Worked well for the Rumble. Already set one up. Just invite yourself to TSMWM. Show starts in 55 minutes.

My excitement level went from 95 to like 50 with that news. Shane really gets fucked over all the time. I think it's a good idea for Shane to introduce Aretha and play off that history. Stephanie probably doesn't even know what Shane is talking about.

Another thing I love about WM is when wrestlers bust out new gear. Be it a different color scheme or a complete design change. Shawn's all white pants or his debut of the current look at WM21. Hunter's White boots and many others. It's WM, wrestlers should do something different and "bigger/better". With the emphasis on the light show for this event, lighting is going to be important, so I imagine the wrestlers will pay more attention to these details then usual.

Didn't they get Gagne for cheap? If he works out, it's a bargain and if it doesn't, no hard loss.

What do you think it means with these elaborate character specific entrances? I can't imagine if that means an entire night of stuff like Cena and HHH last year.

Unlikely. We already have two garbage matches with MitB and the BoB's and Cena/Shawn will possibly be in color as well. I think the eight man can be a sleeper match. Don't discount seeing a Van Daminator or maybe a couple cane shots but Extreme Rules? No. That's gone out the door and thank god for that. It's a stupid term in trying to be different then a No DQ or Street Fight match.

Anyone get the pre-recorded message from Donald Trump and McMahon? I just got it about half hour ago. They are so cheesy and I love it. How is the MitB going to be an overbooked mess? It's not like WWE hasn't done 8+ man ladder matches before. It's an extra pair of bodies from the regular MitB matches and since this will have more bumpers, it should be much better then last years version which aside from Benjamin was pretty substandard ladder match fare. Punk will do something sickening as he always does in these matches not to mention the Hardys and their usual stuff. Edge will be great doing the chicken shit heel routine avoiding everyone. After reading about the huge set they have and the character exclusive entrances, I'm really curious about the show from a production standpoint more so then most of the actual card.

Because A-Train was supposed to be a big heel at that time and if it had been a one on one match, it'd been decent. Instead, he had to deal with TBS as well and the match dragged. From a historical standpoin, TBS was a bigger name but I suppose the idea that he beat two guys made that different from the other wins. I agree with Al about Edge's "streak". Cena is also undefeated at WM as well and all of them were title matches to boot. Edge doesn't need the streak. He's still a star without it and he won't need it against UT next year. Edge/UT sells itself.

At least I get the sense that The McMahon's do care in their own way. I can't get that with the Carter/Jarrett family.

I'm going backwards. I should finish in time.

I just looked it up, Detroit Pistons play at home against Miami at 1. Wouldn't surprise me if Shaq was in attendence as well.

It's in Detroit. Which celebs can we expect to see? I'll assume Kid Rock, Rasheed Wallace (if he's not on the road with the Pistons), a couple b list actors like Luke Perry, Sean Casey of the Tigers. A couple rappers that I don't know, maybe Alice Cooper to pay tribute to WM3. Who else? I'm doing the WM countdown right now and I'm at VII and I love watching Trump during the Warrior/Savage match. I don't think he moves the entire time.

Hate to break it to you, but there's a local diner that serves that already Marvin. It's a common burger.

They usually induct a posthumous choice and they do have Harry Smith to play up the legacy.

Cody is in OVW.