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  1. Hawk 34

    JBL's Wagon comment about Eddie

    Orton was going off the script. JBL did that on his own. JBL's comment was probably the nicest thing any heel has said regarding Eddie since they started using his death for storyline purposes.
  2. Hawk 34

    JBL's Wagon comment about Eddie

    He gets heat for staying in character and mocking Eddie which has been the company's mantra since he died.
  3. Hawk 34

    JBL's Wagon comment about Eddie

    Eddie and JBL were close friends and when JBL got re-married, he asked Eddie to be his best man. Eddie, as we know had his addiction that he overcame. JBL was just making a joke that Eddie was such a big partier that he hired extra security to make sure he didn't drink again (falling off the wagon, so to speak). It's the kind of jokes a close friend makes towards another. It was slightly in character for JBL to mock Eddie's addiction problems but it wasn't nearly as offensive as everything else WWE has said/done about Eddie.
  4. JBL makes a comment alluding to his friendship with Eddie (which goes against JBL's character as well) and gets heat for it. I guess he should have added "But he's in hell now" and things would have been okay.
  5. I didn't claim it was a classic. I was pointing out that the match design was more along the lines of those matches with a straight brawl, blood and a few weapons mixed with intensity as opposed to the usual Foley stuntfest that apparently these people wanted over a well worked brawl with a logical conclusion to a story that was built for months.
  6. So the ending of the match is almost on par with Blanchard/TA??!! If so, I really have to check this out now. The finish isn't anything close to it. The match was. Just straight fighting, massive blood and great intensity. It didn't require some huge spot. It was more akin to Jack/HHH at RR00.
  7. The best angles in wrestling history centered around concepts far more intelligent and realistic then "I hate you, me hurt you". You obviously are out of touch with reality here, Kobe. Foley is succesful on his own and doesn't need to observe porn stars as objects because he just takes them as who they are. Foley is a man of great compassion. That is idenitfiable because alot of people are willing to see people in a different light. THAT is human nature. It has nothing to do with sex. It never entered the equation except you seem to fail to accept that. It's amazing how you can take one of the more straightforward and basic storyline concepts in this fucking business and act like it's overblown and too complex.
  8. Foley will have to explain the whole logical and simplistic reasoning out for those who are afraid of actually paying attention to detail and figuring it out on their own. They need to be forced fed everything anyways.
  9. You should be aware that angles around similar lines as this one have been occuring for years and in other promotions before WWE became anything resembling a soap. It's a fucking TEXTBOOK wrestling storyline.
  10. Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here. The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm. Putting aside the fact that Foley's actual wife is tremendously beautiful. That's the point. Foley is supposed to be that guy. He even said this straight out. The finish was great because it worked much more from a story point then some idiotic uneccesary holy shit bump. If you want senseless bumps, go watch CZW. The finish put over the brutality much more this way then a big bump ever would have. Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.
  11. Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this. It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture. Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it. Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness. Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick. Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage. Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania. At the start, Flair ripped Foley for being a garbage wrestler and in the end, Flair was consumed and was willing to attack a girl in his rage. At the end of the match, he wasn't satisfied. It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.
  12. Hardly. Chavo/Rey was a servicable opener. TBS/Sabu was textbook with an authentic Sabu botch. Hogan/Orton was what you expect from them but Orton put effort out there and so did Hogan to an extent. The I Quit match was fantastic and the finish was smart although some will complain about the lack of a big holy shit spot. Booker/Batista was nothing but it had to be to extend the program. McMahons/DX was overbooked but had its moments. The main event was solid enough and the crowd was good. Hardly a "pure and utter shit" show.
  13. Edge is dumb. Put the knucks in Cena's pants.
  14. Because everytime it happens, the ref sees through it.
  15. Marvin: You should get a HDTV. It'll make the black screen look even better and instantly improve the quality of the presentation.
  16. Lita's getting tossed out early.
  17. Shawn completely whiffed the kick.
  18. This is like RR94 all over again.
  19. Who else would it be? Kane is the obvious babyface monster and it's not like it has to lead to a storyline.
  20. Sid was cleared awhile back and I think did a couple local indy shows since.
  21. Sid would get the pop to end all pops. There is the obvious connection to Shawn as well.
  22. Explain. Foley has throughly put over his devotion(if not, love) for Melina for months. Before the Flair angle even started. Put over how much he cares for her as a friend and hasn't shied from showing a emotional connection to her. The match was brutal as expected and Foley took it like a pill and we know he could have taken more. Re-watch the pre-match promo with Foley and Melina and they well established that Melina cares honestly for Mick as well. Foley with almost his last breath urges Flair to stop and gives away his pride to save the girl who tried to save him. If you still can't realize why it was great, then you never really paid attention to Foley in the last 5 months. On the same page. You asked me to explain. I did. I make my statement that if you don't get it, you weren't paying attention. I didn't say "CG! You don't understand".
  23. Explain. Foley has throughly put over his devotion(if not, love) for Melina for months. Before the Flair angle even started. Put over how much he cares for her as a friend and hasn't shied from showing a emotional connection to her. The match was brutal as expected and Foley took it like a pill and we know he could have taken more. Re-watch the pre-match promo with Foley and Melina and they well established that Melina cares honestly for Mick as well. Foley with almost his last breath urges Flair to stop and gives away his pride to save the girl who tried to save him. If you still can't realize why it was great, then you never really paid attention to Foley in the last 5 months.
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