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Yeah I do this too often, especially with DVDs.

I think he was talking about some tryout dark matches that Punk wrestled in a while ago. Edit: Yeah, what Scroby said.

I think the reports were that Hunter didn't want to work with Edge "yet". So take that however you want. Edge is over and a good worker and just coming into the prime of his career now, it would be sad to see him added to the list of should-have-beens like Jericho.

Why were Edge and Cena in matches with Carlito and Viscera? Aren't we supposed to be building to Summerslam?

What, do they vibrate now or something?

I'd like Edge/HHH but Cena will undoubtedly be in there unless he gets injured somehow. Its also difficult to see HHH jobbing at WM for another year in a row and I'm an Edge mark so I'd want to see him go over. On SD I think Lashley (after winning the Rumble) should win the title from either Taker or Batista or Benoit in a respect-based feud. For ECW, RVD/Angle or RVD/Punk or Angle/Punk. And I'm only interested in Austin/Hogan if Austin wins.

When bitching about the new ECW, you have to keep in mind that its nothing more than another brand of WWE, exactly the same as Raw and SD.

So just because the crowd shitted over a WWE guy you have to move the BRAND pay-per-view to a different locale? What did they expect from this crowd? No surprise here, though. The funniest part of that is that Batista is a SD wrestler and there's no reason to think that he would be on the ECW PPV to get that reaction. Same thing goes for Orton/Cena/HHH/etc. As far as Test and Knox go, having the Hammerstein crowd want Sandman and Dreamer to tear their hearts out is a good thing.

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Yeah, I suggested unifying the tag titles at one point too. Make Raw sports-entertainment heavy, Smackdown wrestling heavy, and ECW whatever you want ECW to be.

That's true I guess.

At least with Show and Kane you could legitimately believe that nobody else could win them.

They were buried so completely and utterly at SNME that I think its actually hurting the belts to still be on them.

My girlfriend and I went to a signing with Edge and Lita last week. We found out when we got there that you needed a ticket to get in, but we waited in line for an hour and a half and they let us through anyway. Edge signed my copy of his book and Lita signed an autograph mat for me and we got a photo too. They were both really friendly and happy to meet the fans but we didn't get to really talk to them much because the promoter was hurrying all the people left in line through. I was wearing my Rated-R Superstar tshirt and a jacket over the top and Edge said "wow you've got the jacket on and everything" which I'm pretty sure left me with a huge dopey grin. I want to meet him again some day and actually have a conversation.

Rock/Benoit Austin/Hart Jericho/Stephanie Hardyz/Dudleyz/E&C Austin/Rock Booker/Benoit

I'd say the same, except with a bit more of an emphasis on technical skills. More like a Bret Hart type of style.

That's really good to hear. Maybe Vince isn't totally senile and there's hope yet.

That is brilliant.

My girlfriend and I just got home from a 6.5 hour train trip to see this show. We had a lot of fun. The crowd was hot, lots of people were wooing like Flair as the arena was filling up. The show started with a promo for Summerslam, particularly the Hulk/Orton match. Welcome To The Jungle played and Howard Finkel came to the ring to welcome everyone and introduce the first match. Matt Striker vs Harry Smith Striker came out to huge heat and introduced Smith as the son of Davey Boy Smith which got a big cheer. Striker called him Harold and said that he was tall but didn't have what it takes to be a superstar. Smith outwrestled Striker early on and they went to do an old test of strength but Smith was too tall and Striker couldn't reach his hand. Striker thumbed him in the eyes and dominated the rest of the match. There were 'Harry' and 'Bulldog' chants. Smith hit a running powerslam out of nowhere a la Lashley for the pinfall. Smith looked impressive as hell and was really over. Striker got booed out of the ring while Smith lingered for cheers. Finkel introduced the next match. Shelton Benjamin vs Charlie Haas This match basically killed the crowd after a great opening match. Shelton came out to a face-like pop and Haas didn't get much of a reaction. Shelton looked confused at the reaction and they were both playing heel to begin with as Haas told the crowd to shut up and Shelton kept retreating from the ring. Eventually they settled into Haas playing heel but by then nobody cared. Shelton won with the T-Bone suplex and Haas stayed in the ring to some sympathy cheers. Whoever put this match together is an idiot. Finkel introduced the next match. Umaga vs Snitsky At first Armando cut an anti-Australian promo and said that he didn't like flying 20 hours to some crappy country and he doesn't like kangaroos either. He stopped at the "rrrrrrrrrr" in Estrrrrrrrrrada twice when the crowd said it along with him. Umaga dominated the match and spat at the crowd. Snitsky made a comeback and hit the big boot but Umaga no-sold it and hit the Samoan Spike for the win. There was a 'Snitsky' chant after the match but the crowd was still mostly dead. Finkel introduced the next match as an intergender tag team match. Nitro and Melina vs Carlito and Trish This woke the crowd up a bit. Trish got a huge pop from the crowd and Carlito's was slightly less. Nitro and Melina dominated Carlito for most of the match but it was pretty much by-the-numbers intergender stuff. Trish hit the head scissors on the turnbuckle on Melina followed by the Chick Kick for the pinfall. Carlito checked Trish out as she left the ring and they left arm-in-arm. Finkel pimped the merchandise and we went to an intermission. After the intermission some guy came in the ring and they gave away a DVD player to a random seat. I took this moment to check out the crowd and it was basically sold out. Finkel then introduced the next match for the Women's Championship. Torrie Wilson vs Mickie James Torrie got a big pop and I heard somebody behind me say "Torrie used to just be eye candy but she's turned into a great wrestler". Mickie was in control of the opening of the match. Torrie came back and went for a Stink Face but missed. I think Mickie hit a Mick Kick for the pinbut I couldn't see properly. Mickie attacked Torrie after the bell but Torrie got the upper hand and did the Stink Face. A small group of people were chanting 'Howard Finkel' as he came out to introduce the next match and The Fink beat his chest twice and pointed to the guys chanting for him. Randy Orton vs Kane The crowd went nuts for Randy during his entrance but he turned the heat around very fast. He hugged just about every girl at ringside and after Kane came out, he did stretches and jumping jacks before finally getting in the ring. Kane dominated the early going but Randy turned it around and did a chinlock for about half the match. Kane came back and Randy missed an RKO but hit a low blow and then hit the RKO for the pinfall. Both guys left quickly and Finkel introduced the next match as a 5 on 1 tag match. Spirit Squad vs Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair SS entered to huge heat. Johnny got on the mic and said that Newcastle was "a little salty on the spirit". They did the "we've got spirit, yes we do, we've got spirit, how bout you" cheer to resounding boos and a 'Newcastle' chant. The DX music and pyros hit and the crowd erupted to see HBK with a chair. HBK asked who could help him even the odds. The crowd apparently thought he was asking for volunteers and he said that he appreciated the offers but needs an actual wrestler. He asked who is his "mostest favouritest wrestler" and introduced Ric Flair as a one-night-only honorary degenerate. They did the DX intro and HBK said "for the thousands in attendance, the millions NOT watching at home, and 5 young men confused about their sexuality...not that there's anything wrong with that" and Flair said the Suck It was especially for SS. Mitch mocked HBK with a mask of him and ate a Sweet Chin Music for it. Kenny gave the ref attitude who eventually hit him. HBK was dancing to an 'HBK' chant. Nicky had Flair in the Figure 4 for a while. Kenny missed the leg drop and HBK faked Sweet Chin Music on Mikey while Flair gave him a low blow. HBK hit Sweet Chin Music on Mikey for the win. The crowd chanted for Finkel again while he introduced the Main event for the WWE Championship. Edge w/Lita vs John Cena Edge came out to insane heat and Cena to an insane pop. The crowd was about 95% pro Cena. My girlfriend and I and the guy sitting behind us were trying to start up an Edge chant to duel with the Cena one but it was pretty much just us screaming and a few others scattered around. Edge dominated most of the match and tried to have Cena counted out. He mocked the You Can't See Me hand thing and gave the 'up yours' gesture to the crowd. Cena eventually hulked up and put Edge up for the FU but Edge escaped and Cena knocked the ref down. Edge hit Cena with a low blow and told Lita to undo the turnbuckle pad. He catapulted Cena into the turnbuckle, but Cena came back and hit him with the FU and STFU. Edge tapped but the ref was still down. Lita went for a chair shot but Cena grabbed the chair and threw it out of the ring. Edge hit Cena with the belt and the ref called for a DQ so Edge speared him. Edge got on the mic and said he couldn't wait to get out of this cesspool and told Cena he was going to end it now before Summerslam. They went for a Litacanrana but she hit Edge. Cena FUed Edge and he and Lita bailed. Cena challenged Edge to a street fight but Edge left. Cena told the crowd that 'the wanker has left the building' and thanked the crowd before the show ended. Biggest cheers: 1. Cena 2. HBK 3. Flair/Harry Smith Most heat: 1. Edge 2. Matt Striker 3. Spirit Squad We also went to an appearance with Edge and Lita before the show but found out when we got there that you needed tickets. We hung around anyway and they ended up letting us in and I got Edge to sign my copy of his book. He was a cool guy but they were rushing us through so I didn't really get to talk to him. We took a bunch of photos so I'll post a link when I upload them.

Can you imagine Orton vs Warrior at Wrestlemania 23? Horriffic.

King hit Orton from behind and threw him to Hogan. Last week Orton slapped him. Its just another excuse to throw an old man against Orton instead of putting him into a legitimate program.

Marvin, I like it better when you call Hogan an orange goblin rather than person.

If Edge has Lita/Foley/Nitro/somebody run in and hit him with the belt to get Cena DQed it would be nearly as entertaining as retaining cleanly.

Anybody who pays for the privelage of voting for the most awful thing on WWE TV currently deserves to be blatantly slapped in the face.