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I agree. He is just a watered down version of Brock with no one caring about him.

The one question I have about this whole angle is, where do the Dudleys go from here? Jay Lethal is victorious and gets his belt back. 3D and Devine are defeated. Lethal moves on to what heel in the X-Division and 3D moves on to what? I like this angle, but what's next for each party involved?

I agree. I like the way this is going so far. I am actually interested in where this is going.

Maybe they already had a storyline planned out with the "fired" wrestler.

This was a pretty good read. He did make some valid points about selling. I like both types of matches, the fast paced spot-fest and the catch-as-catch-can mat wrestling. Maybe he should have also watched the TNA PPV because there was one match that was great with a ton of selling and a great stoy being told, and that was EY vs James Storm (this one really stood out to me). Storm worked over one body part, EY's left arm (most of the time at least). EY sold it like a million dollars. The thing I loved about this match was it was built up nicely with EY getting the upper hand at first from his sneak attack and then the tide turned when he went into the post. For the rest of the match he sold his arm. He had trouble doing movies with his arm. It told a great story and had good psychology and SELLING, exactly what Disco said was missing. I wouldn't call this a 4 star match, but it was a good match and was a stand out on the PPV for me.

Since this whole debate is going on with this "newbie" to the board about mostly everyone being on the WWE payroll to say nothing but bad things about TNA, I think it's about time one of the TNA marks said something about this PPV. As everyone on this board knows I will back up almost anything that TNA does. My opinion on this PPV was that it was average at best. The Knockout's matches were really good. and other then that it was an okay show. Nothing totally great and a few bad spots here and there. If I was going to try to get new fans into TNA this is not one of the PPVs I would show them. Team 3D/Johnny Devine vs. MMG/Jay Lethal - This match was entertaining. I thought the crowd really helped this match up a little bit. I thought the ending felt a little forced. Why didn't Slick tell the guys to continue the match if he didn't see Johnny put Lethal through the table? Angelina Love/Velvet Sky (I hate those names, they sound like 1970's pronstar names) vs. ODB and Roxxi Laveaux - The fans are really getting behind ODB and I love it. I mark our for her as she is entertaining and can wrestle. All 4 women here looked pretty good in the ring. I think WWE really missed the ball with not signing either ODB or Talia Madison (Helms' girlfriend) Eric Young vs. James Storm - I liked the psychology in this match, although it was funny to see Storm working over the left arm and then trying to work on the right and at one point Eric said "wrong arm." I also liked that Eric did more of a serious match then a comedy match here. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a face version of AJ Styles, as someone that outside the ring was funny, but then became kickass in the ring. Feast or Fired match - This is the reason I ordered the PPV. I would have liked to see them open the cases on the PPV, but I actually wasn't expecting them to do that. Petey Willams, Steiner, BG James and Senshi got the cases. I think it would be pretty good to give the fans a little mix up here. The obvious choices would be Steiner - World Title, Senshi - Tag Title, Petey - X-Division title and BG - Fired. I would mix it up a little. Why not have Senshi - World, Petey - Tag and Steiner - X-Division. I think two interesting storylines can be made out of that. 1) Steiner can feud with Bubba Ray. If Bubba wins the X-Division will be no more and if Steiner wins he can name the X-Division champion. Also it seemed like Peter was doing a variation of the Masterpiece's gimmick with his posing and the back of his tights had an outline of a person doing a muscle pose. Not saying I want it, but maybe that was teasing Petey and Chris Maters teaming up for the tag titles, God I would hate that though. Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong - I told my friend before the match the only logical way for it to end was to have Kong get DQ'd. Kim needed to retain, but she couldn't pin Kong just yet. I think Kong retained her heat, especially after the match with the beat downs. I think this is going to lead to Kim vs Kong in a No DQ match at the next PPV. ODB is so over right now. Abyss/Raven vs. RelliK/Black Reign - Ehh. This match was nothing great. Didn't mind Raven here since Rhino was legit injured. Raven was the only logical choice to replace Rhino. Very by the books match. I thought it could have been better. Booker T/Kaz vs. Robert Roode/Christian Cage - Not a bad match. Kaz and Roode both looked very good in this match. I just wish they would pull the trigger on the Traci Brooks/Rain feud already. It's going on for alittle too long and people don't care about it anymore. We all know this is leading to Roode/Rain vs. Kaz/Brooks. Kurt Angle/Tomko/AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe/Eric Young/Kevin Nash - I'm not going to say much about the promo. It was a worked-shoot. If it was a real shoot the mic would have been cut off. Hall no-showed and that sucks. I wasn't one of the people that paid for him though. I figured he would no-show. The match was sub-par, but Eric did a great job. He showed why he's a realy fan favorite. He can really go as seen by his time in the ring with AJ. That Wheel-barrel into a Neck Breaker was SICK. I think it would have been cool to see EY get the pin on Kurt since he's been putting all the young guys over. Overall, after watching the PPV again I would give it no more then a B-. Not a great showing by TNA, but kind of memorable for the wrong reasons. On the topic of "bait and switch," I think it's a bullshit call. 1) Rhino was legit injured. How can he go in the ring like that and risk it further? They needed to put someone else in there. 2) Hall no-shows and they needed to do something. From what I ready Kaz cracked his head open during his match, so they couldn't do that. EY wasn't a bad choice as the fans LOVE this guy, maybe as a comedy act but he's over and the fans popped when he came out. 3) I have not seen anywhere that says that more people watch Impact then watch the PPVs. I call bullshit on this until I see the numbers, especially since Spike TV, if you remember isn't in as many households as other networks. I think more people would buy the PPV, expecially the casual fans to see Angle, Booker and even Hall and Nash. Then they see a match that wasn't as bad as people expected in the "Feast or Fired match" and they have to tune in to the weekly show. The raiting goes up a little maybe to a 1.3 and they work from there. Don't forget the commercials also say CARD SUBJECT TO CHANGE. It's not bait and switch when that is said, especially when one guy is injured and one no-shows. People can bitch about wanting to see certain wrestlers in certain matches, but when something happens the company needs to roll with it the best they can.

I loved the ODB chants during after the match. The fans have really started to take to her. I like her character and she's a good worker. They have a damn fine Knockouts division.

I think the Feast or Fired match came off better then I had expected. It makes me want to tune in to Impact to find out who has which case.

Double post.

It's just going to be a shitty American remake of THE HOST.

Now this is some sad news. Can't the Waynes Brothers leave shit alone!

CTP, got a question for you. What would you say to the match, after seeing it first, if the big names were in the match as well. The possibility of someone like Joe, Abyss, Steiner possibly getting the pink-slip makes it more interesting. Or,how about this, Joe wins the world title shot after being in a hard fought match like the six-man tag and he wins the title at the Dec. 7 head-to-head against ECW. The IWC would cream their pants as one of their "chosen ones" finally won the title and no one expected it since it was on regular tv. Not only were big names in the match that people are shitting on before they see it, but there was a title change on FREE tv. Not saying that it is going to happen, but why not?

I've ordered a number of times from them and I have yet to have any problem whatsoever.

I just got a text from TNA mobile that said

Where did you get it? I went to the Virgin Megastore in Times Square during my class break a few days ago and THEY didn't have it and that place usually has all of the obscure wrestling DVD's. It's grating my skull. It's backordered on Bestbuy.com too. I'm very close to just downloading it but I might use tomorrow's Black Friday sale on the ROH site to get it from there if it's still in stock. I got it from FYE at Roosevelt Field Mall on Long Island.

i am a huge Tomko mark. I've been a fan of his since his Bane days in OVW. I was always pissed that WWE wasted him. He had such potential. I also love him teaming with Albert since I am a huge mark for Albert as well and would go crazy if they brought Albert in to tag with Tomko.

I've been lucky enough to have seen Homicide wrestler as far back as 2001. He worked at an indy fed I did ring crew at that had shows at the Elks Lodge on Queens Blvd. in Queens. He was always a really nice guy to talk to. His is a true professional in everything he does. I remember one time after setting up the ring Cide and Low-Ki (who was trained by Cide) got in the ring and for an hour straight, for the ring crew, they just chain-wrestled. it was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. By the end, neither guy was blown up on bit. Cide is one of my all-time favorites, and right now in my top 3 favorites to watch.

IIRC, when they first closed down, AOL/Time Warner offered the wrestlers an option to get the entire contract but they couldn't work until the contract was over, or they could get like $.10 on the dollar or something like that.

I picked this up yesterday and am watching it right now. I'm up to Hallowicked vs Jigsaw. This is the first time I have seen anything from this promotion, but it is the best thing I have ever seen. These matches are insane! I love the gimmicks! I can't wait to get some more stuff from them.

So, does this mean we can put that * next to his record now?

From Pro Wrestling Torch Finally, it seems like TNA might be heading in the right direction. It took them long enough to get it. I don't mind the Booker signing, and I really don't mind the bigger names in the world title picture because at least they are going to start to build up the lesser used talent. That is the reason for Kaz being built up, and Roode. Joe's back in the title picture and AJ is being used more, as a tag team, but he's on TV a lot.

They seem to do that a lot with TNA DVDs. I found both Abyss' and the Tag Team DVDs a week before they were supposed to come out.

Now knowing that this show is going to be for the next three weeks, combined with last nights, it's more logical. It's not coherant, but it's logical. I am interested to see where everything gets placed and how it comes off. Some of the matches sound really good on paper, especially the 8-man tag.

I don't know, there is something about these spoilers that doesn't seem right. Some people wrestling twice on the same show? Are these real?

What is looks like is they are going towards Angle vs Joe and AJ/Tomko vs Hall/Nash at the January PPV.