The Truthiness

The Rock and Hogan have both been booed out of buildings, when they was supposed to be cheered While Cena was on top, the WWE had it's most profitable year ever in 2007, I don't want to hear that "Well, uh, WWE has an awesome business model, Wrestling had nothing to do with it" bullshit. The fact it is WWE is an wrestling company, that is what they're known for, the company made almost half a billion dollars while Cena was on top. That is the facts, iirc he headlined the most profitable mania ever. He shouldn't be mentioned in the same league as The Rock, Hogan, and Stone Cold, but he does have the chance to one day be on that level.

You should track down the Batista/Taker feud it was awesome, maybe the best face vs. face feud I've ever seen.

After watching Jarrett's promo again, still think it was a little flat, but it was good. I guess I hated he used his wife's death to get sympathy, but he had too do that, everybody knew about it so he had too say something about it. I got a little too smarky watching it I guess, because his whole bit about building TNA for the young guys, was bullshit, but he had too say that. He couldn't come out and say, "This company was build because I was blackballed by the top company in the business". So he had to go with the "I built TNA to help the young guys" bit. Still say ending the promo, by introducing Foley killed everything he was talking about before hand.

Papacita, what about Batista/Taker, Cena/Orton, Orton/Hardy and The whole Mcmahon meltdown concluding with the explosion angle from last year? You didn't like any of that?

Or maybe people just stopped watching wrestling, which does happen. That doesn't mean the product is bad, it means people grow up and are not interested people watching men fake fight anymore. Too say WWE, which is a wrestling company, making a lot of money, had nothing to with the wrestling product is kind of dumb. People wouldn't know about WWE other ventures, if it wasn't for them you know, watching WWE. Cena was the face of the company at the time, so he should get a lot of the credit. The product isn't abysmal, abysmal is an TNA show. WWE has put on 2 years of awesome television, but hey, that's how I feel. Maybe it would be better if Austin can back, he could flip people off, drink cheap beer, make the crowd say WHAT like some retards, and stun people for 2 hours. Yeah, that's just what WWE needs, fuck compelling TV like HBK/Y2J. He was from 83-86, but a lot of that had to do Dusty, Harley, The Road Warriors, and The RNR Express also. 88-1995 WCW was a mom and pop joint, and Bischoff and Hogan turned it in to national power house, Flair was made to look like an idiot most of the time, which was awful. But hell Flair is just as guilty as Hogan, in making people look bad and going in to business for himself, he just didn't make a ton money when he was being a selfish asshole, Hogan on the other hand made wrestling one of the most popular entities in the mainstream in the 80's, and people made a ton of money being on a show Hogan was headlining. I can't say the same for Naitch, he was an better wrestler, cut better promo's, and influenced a lot of his peers. He didn't make more money, he didn't put 2 companies on the map, and he sure as hell doesn't have as big a name as Hulk Hogan. I doubt Hogan cares, that people in Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi didn't come out too see him. People in NYC, Cali, Texas, Chicago, Detroit, and all the other big markets made it a point to come out and watch the big goof. The statement Flair, made about "Austin being bigger than Hogan" was just a bitter statement, from a guy Hogan treated like a peon. As far as saying that Hogan was #1 and Flair #2 in the 80's", well it isn't arguable about Hogan being #1, but Flair being #2 isn't as accurate. I'm sure Andre The Giant, Dusty, Macho, and Piper would disagree. I don't think you need to tell me, what kind of conversations I need too be in, if you don't like what I have too say, I think you shouldn't respond too me. No, I'm not 17 and if I was, it still doesn't change the fact that I think, people calling the current WWE product bad right now is idiotic. But I will apologize, for saying "Bob is making people look like idiots". To YOU Korean Cool I apologize, honestly.

How is he making anyone look like an idiot? Because he has dwarfed the argument that Johnson hasn't been a huge success outside of wrestling. He also is making people look like morons, when they make claims that "2002-2005" is just as bad as what is going on in the WWE today. When in fact, WWE is the best it has ever been, and yes I'm including 98-2000. The product is awesome and is making a ton of money; the ratings just aren't that good, which in the big scheme of things don't mean much, because it's still the top rated show in cable outside of MNF. Entourage ratings haven't been that great, but that doesn't mean Entourage isn't still an awesome show. What I think Bob is saying is bad ratings doesn't in anyway mean the show is bad. If WWE change what they're doing now, because of the ratings, that would be a bad move. They have a good thing going now, they shouldn't fuck with it, but they will panic and do something stupid. Flair talking down about Hogan, and praising Austin is just him being a company yes man, something he has been doing since 2003. Flair hates Hogan, and takes any chance he has to throw shots at him. Which is understandable, Hogan came in to his little mom and pops organization, and made it in to a giant. Rather people want to believe it or not, Naitch was one of the main guys that didn't see anything in Austin or Foley back in WCW, when it was pretty clear that Austin and Foley were 2 young guys that should've been pushed to the moon, but I guess since he didn't say this in HIS book, people are just going to ignore the facts. Flair and Hogan is the same type of assholes, the only difference is Hogan has about 30 million more dollars than Naitch, and Hogan did put the business on the map, his name will always been recognized as the biggest name in wrestling, period. Flair will always be acknowledged by his peers and Melt as the best wrestler ever, but they snicker and laugh at him behind his back.

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I think even Angle came close to fucking Steph, Mick kind of implied it in his book. I also think one of the reason, HHH hated Y2J, is because Steph found Jericho kind of cute, which is why she loved working with him back in 2001, while HHH was out injured. Bix and some others once had a conversation, about how Steph's relationship with Hunter, was kind of like Vince/Linda. Where as Steph (Like Vince) can have all the fun she wanted, but her marriage with Trips was more about business, than genuine love. I think Bix and the other DVD guys was just speculating over some cryptic comments Meltz had made on the subject, but it is something to thing about, after the whole Rodimer thing.

Barron making people look like idiots is fantastic.

Yes, I am. Edit: Jarrett went through all that shit about, he founded TNA for the "young guys" and then at end he introduces, Foley. What kind of sense does that make?

So "passionate promo's" can stumble all over the plece and be full of lies?

Agreed, but in years past, WWE saw very little loss of audience to MNF. Now, with the (IMO) less interesting shows, people are turning the channel on Raw. How long before more people follow suit? I'm not suggesting it's time to panic, but it is time to take a good look at what they're doing right/wrong. In my memory of watching wrestling (27 years), I can't remember a more lackluster WWE/F than today's product. I don't understand how can people talk about the product being the most lacklustre. As mellow said above, 2002-2003, (RAW in particular) was some of the most dreadful TV. Smackdown in 2004 was horrific. The product is fine right now. They put the belt on the guy everyone said was the top heel in the company and he's in the best feud in the company on a main event level. What more can you ask for? Head drops and moonsaults?

In a post Benoit world, ratings don't mean much.

I don't get the love for Double J's promo, he was stumbling over words, he was all over the place, and most of what he was saying was a lie. I can forgive the lies, because it's wrestling. It wasn't a terrible promo, it just wasn't that great, Sting and Angle's was on point and they made a ton of sense.

I'm still betting HHH/Steph get a divorce some time down the road.

^^^^^^Sting is like a 10 time World Champion, if you count TNA's championship as a World title, which I don't.

I thought Kong, did the Awesome Bomb on Rhino and Wilde.

Jay nailed that promo. Who says he can't get over without the Macho bit?

Ok, that whole picture bit sounds awesome.

The Blueprint would be awesome, if he wasn't so shitty in the ring.

Yeah, that was an unique and creative way too debut a new guy.

Booker put over this "respect" angle in an 2 minute promo, better than Sting/Joe have in 3 weeks.

So Knobs tried to fuck her too?

Given how profitable they are, I don't see that happening. And I still don't see how the product is so bad and what would need "shaking" up? He doesn't see things being that bad either, he's just stuck in 2002.

Poor AJ, goes from the biggest storyline in the company, to feuding with the the job squad.