The Truthiness

This storyline just got even better.

Don't say that man, next thing you know you'd have to defend making Flair/Orton a MOTYC, when all you said was you liked the match. THE MELTZ.

Dave, you can tell us. How annoying is that HTQ guy? What the fuck? Dave? I forgot, can't like Ric Flair here...Sorry. Meltzer, c'mon. Who else thinks Flair can do no wrong, even in paint by numbers Flair matches? You can like Flair all you want, most here do but that wasn't a good match. It was, as I said, paint by numbers. It was a good match too me, don't care to argue with you over something as stupid, as ME liking a Ric Flair match. If you diidn't like it, great. I did. Flair and Orton did a good job, and the fans seemed in to also, So i wasn't alone in liking the match. Don't forget to pick up this weeks WON.

Dave, you can tell us. How annoying is that HTQ guy? What the fuck? Dave? I forgot, can't like Ric Flair here...Sorry.

are you mad?? No, just like good matches. It was a fun match.

Flair is still all kinds of awsome.

This match is great.

It'd be hilarious if a Champ saw Vince coming and started running.

I kind of choked up when Bobby and Sil got hit, and I was glad Tony yanked AJ punk ass up. Melfi is a fucking incompetent. And her doctor/mentor is also incometent twit, for giving out Tony's name like that. I can't wait for Phil to get his, which realy speaks of how awsome his character is. The Shah of Iran really makes you fucking hate him. Tony and Sil's "Raging Bull" moment at the dinner table was hilarious, and that was a great final scene of Sil, Bobby, and Tony together chilling for the last time.

I guess they put him over as a "thank you", and then proceded to kill him.

While you make a point that we only hear things against Stephanie, you have to wonder why we hear very little in support of Stephanie. Even when Triple H was at his worse years ago, you'd still hear plenty of people talking in his defense. But with Stephanie, almost nobody says anything positive about her. Mick Foley is a pretty big fan of Steph.

It's like watching WP post all over again, except this time it's Cena instead of Undertaker. would you rather it be Jingus hating Cena for all the wrong reasons like at the other place? I think it's funnier to watch someone hate than it is to watch someone bust a nut yelling "OMG GREATEST WRESTLER EVERRRRR" Never said he was the "OMG GREATEST WRESTLER EVER". I think I've been specific in saying he's the best "Worker in the World" today.

This is laughable....But Matt Hardy is also having a awsome year, but he's way below Cena right now. Shelton Benjamin, is a bit of a joke s a worker, and letts not say "It's the bookers fault" the guy is a fucking spot machine, and he blows alot of them.

Cena hasn't been a "thug" for about 2 years now. Hell, he was just a marine for 2006. Cena's charcater is basically the whole "Fighting Champion, who doesn't BACK DOWN FROM A Fight" schtick.

Cena is easily the best wrestler on Raw, and it'd be a hell of a argument too who is a better wrestler in the world, right now. Henry isn't afwul. I agree on Micheals. Because of his push or because of his talent? I think he does a good job of working with various styles of opponents and had entertaining matches because he gets such big reactions (good or bad). However, his offense is not crisp or varied enough; his selling is tremendous on an individual basis but terrible in the context of an entire match; and his character is stale if you want to include that aspect of wrestling. If you put other people in his main event role and gave them a god push, they could get over at his level, too. Not everyone, but most competent wrestlers could. He has been pushed as a god, and the fans have accepted that he is a main event player because of it. It's buying into the role that WWE gave him. In a predetermined "sport," it's kind of hard to not accept the pushes the wrestlers are given as their level, because the don't have real matches to determine who is the best. Cena is a great wrestler, and he is a very good seller. This is really not debatable, unless you're just "debating just to debate" because whn you say "Cena isn't a good seller" you're clearly wrong. Cena's boggest attribute is his selling, and how he works around his injuries the whole match like Slapping, and yelling at his arm against Micheals from Raw, or selling frustration when he looks at Kings asking "What does he have to do, to keep HBK down" or playing off mistakes he made at Mania, and trying to avoid them in the Raw match. Then against Umaga, the 1st match Cena was basically getting killed, and escaped with his live. Which is why the Rumble matvch was so great, Umagag came in trying to really kill Cena, which made Cena turn in to a "Guy fighting for his life, and becoming just as vicious as the monster Umaga. He basically made Umaga make alot of mistakes, basically using the "Punch yourself out defense". He'll take a million shots from Umaga, which would get Umaga in too a groove, but every time Umaga went for the death blow, Cena was actually making Umaga kill himself. Shit like Throwing the stairs at Umaga's head, after Umaga crashes and burns too the outside, then slamming him on the steps. Even after Umaga ran the tables, and missed, Umaga kept coming back like Jason, and Cena finally had to choke him to death too get the victory, that was classic match and the best LMS match ever. The 4 way, The Mania match with Micheals, and his tag matches with Shawn vs Tista/Taker were also very good. He pulled a MOTN with Khali, and that's something only Taker could do, and Cena did it better then Taker. So yeah, Cena's selling is pretty much his bread and butter. Cena's not having a lot of moves, or aka a "varied offense" really doesn't mean shit, if he uses his limited moveset wise;ly. Foley and Austin didn't have a wide arsenal of moves, they were still great workers. Cena has a stale character, but that doesn't mean he's a bad worker, and like I said he's the best wrestler in the world today, so he's done more with less, and has better matches then a guy who basicallly just put on a "showcase of skills" like say a Danielson. His push is more then justified, when you see the fact that House shows are up, he sells tons of merchandise, and gets a reaction out of the whole arena wheter they like him or not. People pay too cheer Cena, and people pay hoping too see him lose. Either way Cena is bringing people to the shows, and is putting out great matches to go along with it. I don't know what more you can ask for, and if you think Shelton fucking Benjamin is a better worker, or even a good worker, that is pure comedy.

I agree completly.

Cena is easily the best wrestler on Raw, and it'd be a hell of a argument too who is a better wrestler in the world, right now. Henry isn't afwul. I agree on Micheals.

Well Mark Henry isn't a bad worker, he isn't that great, but he's far from bad. I think the majority of the people on DVDR feel he has improved as a worker, and has a awsome charcater. I'm part of that same logic of thinking. I think people in the IWC are trained to believe you have to be 5'11 and channel Chris Benoit, to qualify as a good worker. Mark Henry has found something that works, and he's great at carryin it out. His matches now are perfectly acceptable, and you coulodn't say that 3 years ago. He has great timing, a pretty good offense, doesn't blow up easy, and has really learned when to sell, and not too. He also makes the moment, that his opponent actually knock him off his feet means something, and it gets a great reaction from the crowd. So yeah, Henry is actually pretty good. Nobody is saying he's Kawada, but still he's a prefectly acceptable wrestler right now. Well until, he breaks a bone...Again. DVDR is far from a bad board, just like this is far from a bad board. I might prefer DVDR, but I can understand posters liking here better, but there is no need to say DVDR sucks. I seen somebody diss Dutch, well my 1st time here there was a guy name "RAVISHINGRICKRUDO" who was a bit of a prick, but that didn't change my opion of the forums here. I'd definitely call Henry a bad worker. Did you see his attack on Taker when he returned? He was throwing some of the slowest, shittiest punches I've ever seen. The overall beatdown was great too me, and really got Henry back over. I don't remember him having bad punches, but I'll have to rewatch it. Even if that is true, bad punches doesn't= a bad worker. Shawn Micheals chops are awful, that doen't make him a bad worker. Same goes for Cena, and his punches. Now on the flip side, you can have awsome punches like Ron Killings,. and still be a pretty mediocre worker.

They think non of the above. Finlay is probably top 5 on DVDR, as one of the best workers. You're not telling the truth, man. They feel Shawn Micheals is a fag, but they don't feel HBK is a better worker. They almost unamimously think Smackdown is the best show on telivision, and sure a lot of people think it's better then WWE 2000, the show is that good. Nobody think Raw is be4tter then Smackdown, unless it's a troll. Cena is the best wrestler in the world (January-May) so far today, but the majority over there do not think he's better then Bret. Thery don't "eat whatever WWE feeds them" like you so elequently put it. They're just enjoying the shows this far this year. They have a very good Puro forum, and alot of posters know their shit in Puro. What exactly is wrong with that?

Well Mark Henry isn't a bad worker, he isn't that great, but he's far from bad. I think the majority of the people on DVDR feel he has improved as a worker, and has a awsome charcater. I'm part of that same logic of thinking. I think people in the IWC are trained to believe you have to be 5'11 and channel Chris Benoit, to qualify as a good worker. Mark Henry has found something that works, and he's great at carryin it out. His matches now are perfectly acceptable, and you coulodn't say that 3 years ago. He has great timing, a pretty good offense, doesn't blow up easy, and has really learned when to sell, and not too. He also makes the moment, that his opponent actually knock him off his feet means something, and it gets a great reaction from the crowd. So yeah, Henry is actually pretty good. Nobody is saying he's Kawada, but still he's a prefectly acceptable wrestler right now. Well until, he breaks a bone...Again. DVDR is far from a bad board, just like this is far from a bad board. I might prefer DVDR, but I can understand posters liking here better, but there is no need to say DVDR sucks. I seen somebody diss Dutch, well my 1st time here there was a guy name "RAVISHINGRICKRUDO" who was a bit of a prick, but that didn't change my opion of the forums here.

A forum, similar to this, but much, much worse. Some would say DVDR is 10 times better then this board, but that's neither here or there. Why are people even talking about "DVDR"? Yeah, the attention whoring morons who pollute that board, maybe. GodSon is that you? But really SM is never talked about over there. It seems kind ofr stupid to bash another board, where alot of posters here go there also.

A forum, similar to this, but much, much worse. Some would say DVDR is 10 times better then this board, but that's neither here or there. Why are people even talking about "DVDR"? Batista was a bit of a prick, if that story is true.

Yeah, she killed herself. Meadow mentioned to Tony and Carm, while expressing concern to them about A.J. There was also a episode, where they showed her actually laying dead, after she jumped out of a window.

Yeah, she killed herself. Meadow mentioned to Tony and Carm, while expressing concern to them about A.J. There was also a episode, where they showed her actually laying dead, after she jumped out of a window.

She died didn't she?