Zorin Industries 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2002 1) Duran Duran - Rio Evenflow, I just worship the ground you walk on, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anorak Report post Posted September 11, 2002 Current faves......... "For Tomorrow" -- Blur "Sunday Morning Coming Down" -- The Handsome Family "Jet Boy" -- New York Dolls "From A Few Streets Over" -- Ron Sexsmith "Pretty Little Cemetary" -- Ron Sexsmith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted September 12, 2002 Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd (specifically the live version of Floyd with Van Morrison) whoa... That live version is from the Berlin Wall Benefit... which is just Roger Waters, not Pink Floyd.. since Rog left the Floyd years earlier. ugh, I'm not too fond of Comfortably Numb to begin with, but man, saying you like that shitty version with Rog and Van Morrison... better than the ACTUAL song performed by the band it was meant for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted September 16, 2002 1) Queens of the stone age - Avon 2) Weezer - Buddy Holly 3) Pixies - Here comes your man 4) Queens of the stone age - The lost art.. 5) Radiohead - Karma Police Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted September 17, 2002 Currently? Pete Shelley - Homosapien Wolfgang Press - Sucker Tom Petty - Don't Do Me Like That Husker Du - I Apologize Robbie Robertson - Somewhere Down the Crazy River They'll change as my mood changes. Ask me next week, I'll have five completely different ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 17, 2002 "Deer Dance" System of a Down "Giving In" Adema "Spiders" System of a Down "Man Who Sold The World" Nirvana "Aerials" System of a Down 10 brownie points to anyone who can guess who my favorite band is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 17, 2002 Right now, it's... Dr. Seuss is Dead-Acid Bath God Machine-Acid Bath Slit your Guts-Cryptopsy Who will save the sane?-Type O Negative Jim Fear-Dillinger Escape Plan Been on a sick Acid Bath kick lately. That CD just won't get out of my stereo, it's too damn good. It's also been ruthlessly ripped off by every nu"metal" band to come out in the past 5 years, with frighteningly pathetic results. "When the Kite String Pops" buy it, hear it, love it. It's not even death metal, I promise. SOAD, Marilyn Manson, Disturbed, Godsmack, and Slipknot -Wish- they were this good, even though they don't sound like Acid Bath at all. The riffs are still ripped off though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 18, 2002 riiiiiiiiiight I dare you to find any lyrics in hard rock/metal lately than has been more emotional or creative than SOAD's... And really, when it comes down to it, the lyrics are what makes or breaks a song and its meaning. So if you write a killer song but the lyrics are "la la la la la la la la" it would be....oh, nevermind. Kylie Minogue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 18, 2002 Just listen to 'em V-X, just listen to 'em. You've got the Agent guarantee that you'll dig it. and lyrics are only part of what makes a song great. If the music's not there, it's just a poem with crappy background music. It works both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NazMistry Report post Posted September 18, 2002 My Top 5 is somewhat revised. 1) The Deftones - 'Be Quiet And Drive (Far Away)' 2) Muse - 'Citizen Erased' 3) Foo Fighters - 'Everlong' 4) Bjork - 'Play Dead' 5) Muse - 'Showbiz' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Just listen to 'em V-X, just listen to 'em. You've got the Agent guarantee that you'll dig it. and lyrics are only part of what makes a song great. If the music's not there, it's just a poem with crappy background music. It works both ways. Lyrics are an integral part of what makes the human ear appreciate the sound of rock, and especially rap music. If you look for meaning within your music, lyrics are the way to go... Which is why I absolutely LOATHE death metal (Cradle of Filth, Sepultura, Cannibal Corpse can SUCK ON THIS! ) because it's just shit with a guy growling. If I wanted to hear a guy growling for an hour, I'd go down to a street corner on Sunset Boulevard, and it's much more entertaining, exciting, and a great value! I'll check out Acid Bath though, mostly because I don't like writing off bands before I hear em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted September 19, 2002 I only know of Acid Bath because they were the music to a Dragonball Z video I downloaded once. For those curious, the song used was "What Color is Death" which was looped a little to fit the video but was still a great song. My favorite five at this very moment: 1. Your Disco Needs You -- KYLIE~! I've listened to this so many times today, I'm starting to worry. This also includes all the different language versions(for those wondering, there's a spot where she says the same thing in Spanish, Japanese, and French so far from the ones I've heard). Oh yeah, the video OWNS too. 2. I Get High -- Styles I believe his name is. I know he rolls with the Ruff Ryders though. I love the high-pitched singing, even though the video is scary as hell with all the blacklights and weird contact lenses. 3. Ugly Friend -- Madd West. This shit is hilarious. I downloaded it by accident, but I'm glad I did now. Never seen the video if there is one. 4. Played Alive(The Bongo Song) -- Safri Duo. Awesome dance stuff here. Best part of Louie DeVito's Dance Factory that isn't by someone named DJ Sammy, Modjo, or Daft Punk. 5. Habbeetik -- Azar Habib. Early 80s Middle Eastern music. If Iraq put out music like this Lebanese fellow, we'd never go to war against them! Seriously, look for this one, as well as the somewhat rare remix with Eminem and Dre rapping to it. It's GOLD!!! Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Lyrics are an integral part of what makes the human ear appreciate the sound of rock, and especially rap music. If you look for meaning within your music, lyrics are the way to go... Which is why I absolutely LOATHE death metal (Cradle of Filth, Sepultura, Cannibal Corpse can SUCK ON THIS! ) because it's just shit with a guy growling. If I wanted to hear a guy growling for an hour, I'd go down to a street corner on Sunset Boulevard, and it's much more entertaining, exciting, and a great value! I'll check out Acid Bath though, mostly because I don't like writing off bands before I hear em. on the first point, I think you're confusing lyrics with vocals, which are two totally different things. Anything can be said in any manner, it's just a matter of what you say and how you say it matching up properly. F'rinstance, you can't growl out stuff like the Monkees, no matter how badly Six Feet Under wants too, which is why I don't like them that much. Since only one band you mentioned is actually a death band, and even then CC is only marginally so any more, (just meaningless gore.) Cradle I'd call borderline black metal, Sepultura's tough as fuck, if all you've heard is, say, Roots and past that, you're not hearing the good stuff. Check out Chaos AD and things prior to that. Think old school punk speed, only 100 times heavier. Max doesn't even growl, so that's all I've got to say about that really. Anymore, growls just sound normal to me, and I can pick out about any death lyrics, if I've got 'em in text, even easier. That kind of music can't be expressed with straight vocals, it just wouldn't sound right at all that way. I do agree that pretty much all gore bands are essentially some goon growling about dismembering babies and shit, but there's a LOT out there that isn't. Check out Dying Fetus (don't let the name fool you.) Origin, and Mastodon. Although those three are more grind than death. Don't forget the golden rule of death metal though: It ain't meant to be for everyone. If you hate it, you're in the majority, trust me. You shouldn't be disappointed with Acid Bath if you're looking for creative lyrics, good VOCALS (not even growls, I promise), and some killer riffs. if you're just downloading songs, be sure to get Tranquilized, The Blue, Dr. Seuss is Dead, Scream of the Butterfly, God Machine, and What Color is Death? Those tracks will give you a really good idea as to what they're about and how versatile they are. If you're picking up a cd (good luck finding one) Get "When the Kite String Pops" it's better than "Pagan Terrorism Tactics" but PTT is still really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 19, 2002 I meant to say vocals when I said lyrics in the first sentence, by the way, but on my point with lyrics, I wanted to state that if you listen to them well (and the vocals are essential in being able to understand them, which is why I love System of a Down so much because they have just simply amazing beautiful asskicking music with lyrics that can be heard) that's where a huge chunk of enjoying the song will come from. People who I suppose aren't very much into music, those fucks who lsiten to top40/pop/mainstream shit, they don't appreciate music the same way musicians such as myself do, because you start looking into the lyrics, which is one of the most complex parts in writing a song, if you're doing it right (at least in my opinion) . Like I said I don't like to group everything into one category, so I don't want to say I really hate all death metal, but let's put it this way everything death metal I heard is pretty much shit and I don't understand how anyone can call it music, especially with the message they're trying to send out. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with just trying to put on an image, or if the lyricist has some issues he has to deal with personally and shouldn't be airing out his dir6ty laundry for the world to hear, but I personally don't care about someone singing about killing babies and torturing young women. Fuck that shit. See, say what you will about P.O.D., but one of thew things I like msot about them, is they were cool enough to be comfortable with putting out a POSITIVE fuckin message, especially with all the negativity in the world, really how much more of it do we need to see or even listen to? Don't get me wrong. I'm not at all the most positive person in the world, in fact, I've been known to make up and tell some of the best dead baby jokes around, and have been criticized for extremist views concerning my feelings towards 9/11. But when I make my music, I don't talk about that shit, or at least not the dead baby shit, because I can't take anyone who says ridiculous things like that seriously. Music is such a powerful tool, in the fact that potentially millions of people can be hearign what you have to say, and when you put lyrics out that don't mean anything, then what you're essentially saying is the people who buy your product are mindless moronic sheep, and your opinions don't matter enough to broadcast to the world. anyways I'm done with my mini-rant... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Most of the death bands you've heard are probably as follows: Cannibal Corpse, Six Feet Under, a generic gore band or two like Devourment or Nunslaughter, perhaps you've heard Morbid Angel. First of all, any Chris Barnes project has been so unbelievably watered down that it's sad. I'm also not trying to argue that gore bands have meaningful lyrics, because they don't. At all. HOWEVER, most of your mid-80's slasher horror flicks don't have a message other than "look at how we kill THIS guy!" I still dig them just out of sheer entertainment value, but as far as conveying a meaningful message? Nah. You said you were a musician, I'll assume guitar/vocals, just because I don't know any better. download "Pissing in the Mainstream" by Dying Fetus and try to get any of those riffs down; they're INSANE. There's so many fantastic musicians in that genre that just get overlooked. If you're into the rhythm section, check out some Cryptopsy and follow those blasts, or else the bass lines. Both are phenomenal. I'm not trying to get you to like death bands, because if you don't like it, well, you don't like it. F'rinstance, I hate rap, and ain't no one changing my mind on THAT. I'm just saying why I like it per se, and explaining how fans of the genre "can call it music" to quote your earlier post. Here's the lyrics to Pissing in the Mainstream. I get some meaning out of them, anyway. (Hence my sub-name) Pissing in the mainstream ...the media is a tool designed to mold us into slaves drugging us into an empty apathetic daze the trick is that we think that everything is going fine but the truth to our reality is buried in the mind I don’t give a fuck about the Hollywood elite I don’t really care if models can’t fucking eat I don’t give a fuck about what movie is on top But what I really know is that the shit has got to stop consumer appetities are never satisfied in full cause the objects that they buy can simply never fill the void a constant need for meaning and accumulting shit drives the lust in their obssession just to get another fix I don’t give a fuck about the TV ratings game The "Real World’s" not a party, just a place for the insane If that reflects reality then pass another drink you try to be a millionare, I’ll vomit in the sink what the fuck is left to try on a avaricious nation on an economic high? If Rome could last 500 years who then will throw the wrench inside our gears? the bottom line is money on the Western power scene where celebrities and porn can let the population dream their pathetic humans living in an advertising glut who devour with a passion what the mainstream vomits up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Yes, and thus why I don't dig most mid-80's slasher flicks, as a matter of fact I sit there laughing my ass off at horror films (and some way overly dramatic overhyped movies like Requiem For A Dream) But that's antoher topic. I guess I was a bit too harsh on death metal, there was another group I heard, I believe they were called Mayhem, I wanted to vomit at their music. IT was jsut absolutely terrible. Morbid Angel is antoher one I've heard, yes. Oh, and being a musician, I'm a Kurt Cobain/Trent Reznor type.. That is, I do a little bit of everything, but when playing in/with a band, I'm usually the lead singer. I'm a better drummer than I am guitarist, but I can pick on the guitar qutie well actually, it's just chords frustrate me (I haven't been playing that long, maybe 1 or 2 years). I also hate rap, as I think all metalheads do, but there are some rappers who I tend to like, mostly Eminem.. His background beats are pretty awesome, and sound cool when converted into bass/drums/guitar. But I digress.. The lyrics to 'pissing in the mainstream' are pretty good, except for one thing, and this is something I criticize just about every rock band in the world on, maybe even a little on System (IMPERFECTION? IMPOSSIBLE!!). And that's that the lyrics quite often aim a lot at the "i laugh at you because you're all mainstream/fuck the trend" kind of thing. In my opinion, there is really nothing wrong with being trendy, unless you're being trendy for the sake of being trendy. If sometihng's popular and it happens to be pretty cool or worthy of attention, ain't nothing wrong with liking it. And by the way, I don't necessarily hate death metal, like I said, I don't like to hate something jsut because it happens to be a certain kind of music. If you've ever heard of Wumpscut, some people might consider them death metal, and I love em. If you haven't heard em, check out "Golgotha"..Awesome song, if you can ever find it. By the way, Agent, thanks for having a discussion which didn't dissolve into flaming between genres or thinking style regarding music, as most debates in that respect usually turn into such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Everyone no-sells my dance/techno posts, here and in "Recent Purchases." Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 20, 2002 Kotz, I listen to music no one else likes, too. I feel your pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted September 20, 2002 They have changed to: Roadkill - D.O.A. with Jello Biafra Blueprint - Fugazi Telecommunication - A Flock Of Seagulls A Good Idea - Sugar Rags and Bones - NoMeansNo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 24, 2002 The lyrics to 'pissing in the mainstream' are pretty good, except for one thing, and this is something I criticize just about every rock band in the world on, maybe even a little on System (IMPERFECTION? IMPOSSIBLE!!). And that's that the lyrics quite often aim a lot at the "i laugh at you because you're all mainstream/fuck the trend" kind of thing. In my opinion, there is really nothing wrong with being trendy, unless you're being trendy for the sake of being trendy. If sometihng's popular and it happens to be pretty cool or worthy of attention, ain't nothing wrong with liking it. It's a lot deeper than "The trend is stupid; fuck the trend." It's more, well... In the long run, popularity has nothing to do with whether or not someone is talented, or something (music, a movie, whatever) is worthwhile. Blatant cheeseball verse/chorus/verse shit just doesn't show any motivation to move in a different direction, it's almost like bands are just giving up playing what they really want to play just to make a buck. There's nothing wrong with feeding a family, but there's better ways to do it than to surrender your talent and your views to fit into a mainstream mold that's less threatening and more digestible just so it appeals to a wider demographic. F'rinstance, here's one reason why I fucking hate Slipknot. All of the members were in different bands from the same area, and were put together by Roadrunner records. Being put together by a label is an automatic black mark in my book, but anyway: All of those guys were in death bands, thrash bands, "nu metal", what have you, but gave up playing what they were playing just so they could be big rock stars, and try to represent a different viewpoint when that viewpoint was just given to them and stuck on a t-shirt that could be sold for 20 bucks at hot fucking topic. THAT is what's wrong with mainstream music and "art." it's compromised to the point where they artists doesn't even care about it anymore, they're just happy to go to the bank. If they don't care, why the fuck should I? Maybe they do enjoy what they're playing, and yes they do write their own material, but their success was handed to them, and I just cannot respect that. As far as liking something worthwhile that also happens to be trendy, well, I haven't found it yet, and believe me, I look. There's the illutrious ten non-metal bands I like, but outside of that, no fucking thanks. If it's on the radio, it's pop, no matter what color the t-shirt is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kibagami Report post Posted September 25, 2002 5. Anti-Flag. "That's Youth". 4. Bouncing Souls. "East Coast Fuck You". 3. Dropkick Murphys. "Career Opportunities (Live)". 2. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones. "Everybody's Better". 1. Face to Face. "The Take-Away". S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted September 26, 2002 Here are my current favs: 1) Now - Fin KL 2) A.S.A.P. - Utada Hikaru 3) Come to Me - Boa 4) Flower Print Bikini - Baby VOX 5) How - Baby VOX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted September 27, 2002 Currently... 5. Margaritaville-Jimmy Buffett 4. Changes In Latitudes-Buffett 3. The Gambler-Kenny Rogers 2. Burning Heart-Survivor 1. Eye of the Tiger-Survivor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insanityman Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Right now it's... 1. "Get Up" Dropkick Murphys (Live) 2. "Yellin' In My Ear" Operation Ivy 3. "Come As You Are" Nirvana 4. "Never Alone" Dropkick Murphys (Live) 5. "Heart Shaped Box" Nirvana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted September 30, 2002 1. Friend of Mine - treble charger 2. Brand New Low - treble chager 3. Starseed - Our Lady Peace 4. American Psycho - treble charger 5. el Scorcho - Weezer I really need to broaden my musical horizons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 30, 2002 1. Friend of Mine - treble charger 2. Brand New Low - treble chager 3. Starseed - Our Lady Peace 4. American Psycho - treble charger 5. el Scorcho - Weezer I really need to broaden my musical horizons. You sure do. I remember you picking up an And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead CD a few months back. That's a step in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted October 2, 2002 suzanne vega - tom's diner bjork - pagan poetry tori amos - yes, anastasia liz phair - supernova veruca salt - number one blind i'm in a very alternative chick mood right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted October 2, 2002 Here's 5 tracks that have been suitably stuck in my head/getting play at the moment: * People Under the Stairs - "San Francisco Knights" * Lipps Inc. - "Funky Town" (don't ask, not even I can tell for sure) * Deltron 3030 - "Memory Loss" (instrumental) * The theme from "Fraggle Rock" * The Wallflowers - "I Started a Joke" (I usually can't stand "karaoke covers" like this one, but Jakob Dylan sounds more like somebody who'd actually be singing those lyrics than the Bee Gees) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest geniusMoment Report post Posted October 2, 2002 The doors live in New York at msg the whole damn CD is great and has 10 great songs on it ending with the best version of the end ever recorded. Jim Morrison is God!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thetrendsetter Report post Posted October 2, 2002 1. Bled For Days - Static X 2. Acrobat - U2 3. Hey Hey What Can I Do - Led Zeppelin 4. One Step Closer- Linkin Park 5. El Phantasmo.... - White Zombie My Overall Musical Tastes change almost daily though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites