Guest LesnarLunatic Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Ron looks like a mix of Hogan, Scott Steiner and Superstar Graham. Heck, If he makes it to the WWF, he can debut as "Superstar" Ron Waterman, a combo of a cheating heel and a dangerous submission based heel. In other words, he can cheat, but if he gets a big enough opening (or if he turns face), he uses moves like those he used in UFC. I'd put Waterman on RAW also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Why do all heels have to cheat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LesnarLunatic Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Well.. they have to cheat from time to time or else they'd end up becoming faces quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Does anyone have a pic of Waterman ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Well.. they have to cheat from time to time or else they'd end up becoming faces quickly. I doubt that, SEVERELY. I think a heel can be jsut a compelte dick in all his interviews and promos and play that dickishness in his matches as well, while getting clean wins and ocassionally cheating. Hell, Kurt Angle's gotten a ton of clean wins, and he's never lost heel heat ever. Hey did get a clean submission out of Hogan, did he not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LesnarLunatic Report post Posted July 4, 2002 actually, I posted a Waterman pic in my first post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted July 4, 2002 I am Observant today oye sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LesnarLunatic Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Well.. they have to cheat from time to time or else they'd end up becoming faces quickly. I doubt that, SEVERELY. I think a heel can be jsut a compelte dick in all his interviews and promos and play that dickishness in his matches as well, while getting clean wins and ocassionally cheating. Hell, Kurt Angle's gotten a ton of clean wins, and he's never lost heel heat ever. Hey did get a clean submission out of Hogan, did he not? that is true. Although Angle also has alot more charisma than alot of WWF guys in the first place which helped him get over as a heel. Something tells me Waterman may not be the most charismatic man, but he could get over. Maybe as a client of the new agent DDP or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 4, 2002 I don't know about him, isn't he like 38-39? I don't think he has much time left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted July 4, 2002 They can always do the "silent monster heel" gimmick... Wasn't Kane pretty over with that when he first came in? (Oh no wait nevermind I don't want to hear the "he was getting the rub from Taker" complaints) Even then, how hard can it be to have charisma? Hell if Chris Benoit and Lance Strom can get over as heels without cheating (which they've done, except for maybe the possibility of Storm in a couple cases), then I'm sure a rookie can too. Especially since one of the top traits the WWF looks for is charisma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ash Ketchum Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Sounds good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 5, 2002 I don't know about him, isn't he like 38-39? I don't think he has much time left. You are actually pretty close, from his http://www.ovwrestling.com/ bio, he is listed as 35 years old. Here is some more information from it in case you are wondering... HEIGHT: 6' 2" WEIGHT: 275 lbs. HOMETOWN: Greeley, CO YEARS AS A PRO: 2 (23 years amateur wrestling) FAVORITE WRESTLERS GROWING UP: Tony Atlas, British Bulldogs, Ivan Putski, Junkyard Dog OUTSIDE INTERESTS & HOBBIES: Ultimate Fighting, art, pottery, sculpture - sells artwork in two Colorado galleries. ACCOMPLISHMENTS & UNUSUAL TALENTS: Honorable mention: PWI's 2001 Rookie of the Year contest Three-time Ultimate Fighting (UFC) Champion Black Belt in Jujitsu Appears in the UFC video game High School art teacher and wrestling coach ATHLETIC BACKGROUND - HIGH SCHOOL: Football, wrestling, baseball All-Conference football All-Conference baseball All-Conference wrestling, team captian, MVP, district and state champion ATHLETIC BACKGROUND - COLLEGE: University of Northern Colorado - Wrestling: Five-time Letter Winner Two-year team captainl Team MVP State Champion National qualifier ...now let me ask you guys this. If WWE isn't much for "old guys", then why in the hell did they sign a guy his age, not just to a contract, but a DEVELOPEMENT contract? Are they even going to bring him in, or is he just an OVW'er for life? You are right, he don't have many years in him anyhow, unless he's some sort of "special guy", sorta like DDP was (wasn't he pretty old when he started active wrestling in WCW?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M Nyland Report post Posted July 5, 2002 does almost everyone in OVW look like someone from 80s or early 90s WWF or WCW? it's getting creepy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheSmarkzone Report post Posted July 5, 2002 His official Web site is at: http://www.ronwaterman.com You can read about him and see pics of him there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 5, 2002 His official Web site is at: http://www.ronwaterman.com You can read about him and see pics of him there. You bastard, trying to top me are ya!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dilk bathoon Report post Posted July 5, 2002 why is cena wearing sting facepaint in that pick?____^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 5, 2002 why is cena wearing sting facepaint in that pick?____^ Well, that is a picture from SD taped on Tuesday and aired tonight. Most think that the only thing they retaped was the thing in the main event, but little do most know, they also taped two different angles for Cena. One that was shown, and the other one which was him in this face paint, doing a rip off of Sting's gimmick. They decided to not air that one, as they didn't feel the fans were ready yet! This is ALL TRUE, I promise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Cool, not too many people do the semi-painted face thing any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheHulkster Report post Posted July 5, 2002 I seen Waterman in a dark match on a Smackdown in November (The SD where Heyman cut that promo on Vince), and he was the most impressive of all the developmental wrestlers showcased (Orton, Lesnar(who was total shit in the ring when I first seen him, he came out wearing a beret) Rico, and Waterman). His ring presence and ring work were solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Cool, not too many people do the semi-painted face thing any more. If you like it so much, you could always get Photoshop and put face paint on wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Van Dam Report post Posted July 5, 2002 I think Waterman kinda looks like actor Clint Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Ha. Back in January, I saw Waterman and Lesnar tag in a dark match prior to Smackdown against the APA. I was chanting BPP and H20 throughout the whole match, and I don't think anyone in my section understood why because they were giving me that "what the hell" look. At the end, I gave them that look as they went nuts for Bradshaw's clothesline from hell on Waterman for the win.. Oh, and I might admit that I also saw Randy Orton vs MR PERFECT! Even in a dark match, he let Orton have the first 95% of the match before dominating the last 30 seconds and winning with the perfect plex. Oh, and I also saw AJ Styles vs Rico Constantino. Styles hit an awesome SSP to the outside that got almost zero reaction from the crowd for some reason, maybe because the North Charleston Colliseum was still filling up. Amazing that the match was not the WWE style of cruiserweight match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 5, 2002 I saw KURT ANGLE in a dark match in October of 1999. ATHLETIC BACKGROUND - HIGH SCHOOL: Football, wrestling, baseball All-Conference football All-Conference baseball All-Conference wrestling, team captian, MVP, district and state champion Oh, he's a RAW wrestler if I've ever seen one, bah gawd! Lord, he even has Hogan's crucifix... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted July 5, 2002 At the February house show in Seattle, Waterman was a big time over. Big H2O chants. I think with enough refinement, him and Cena have the most to give. Only problem is he looks like Steiner. They signed him in 1999 didn't they, or maybe 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LesnarLunatic Report post Posted July 5, 2002 When Waterman debuts, how long will it take before somebody calls him "Waterboy"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Cool, not too many people do the semi-painted face thing any more. If you like it so much, you could always get Photoshop and put face paint on wrestlers. Where the fuck did this come from? That's a fucking stupid idea, and i wouldnt save the pictures to my harddrive anyhow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Why do all heels have to cheat? The way the WWE is now, if they don't, they'll end up taking the Triple H tweener of doom route. The one thing I hate is that heels need interference to cheat, instead of cheating by themselves (which makes them look smart instead of weak)...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Where the fuck did this come from? That's a fucking stupid idea, and i wouldnt save the pictures to my harddrive anyhow. How do you think Downhome managed to have a picture of Cena wearing facepaint against Kurt Angle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 6, 2002 Where the fuck did this come from? That's a fucking stupid idea, and i wouldnt save the pictures to my harddrive anyhow. How do you think Downhome managed to have a picture of Cena wearing facepaint against Kurt Angle? Shhhhhhhh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted July 6, 2002 I saw Waterman and Lesnar vs. Orton and Rico in a dark match before RAW in February 2002 in Vegas and it was damn good except for the bastards next to me chanting "Let's go H20" I just wanted to fucking kill them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
