The SK Raw rant

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I don't reference KEith that often...if ever.

 

But he hit the nail on the head this time.

 

"Let’s see: RVD: Over. Tommy Dreamer: Over in Philly. Brock Lesnar: Not over. Recipiant of Summerslam title shot: You do the math."

 

 

"Booker’s their big star for the future but he never wins, RVD’s their big star for the future but he never does anything meaningful, Brock Lesnar’s their big star for the future but you can hear crickets fart every time he appears – it goes on and on."

 

 

Even a guy who is generally anti-RVD can see it...why can't the WWE?

 

seriously?

 

ANyone want to venture a guess?

 

Becuase I gave up on WWE logic a long time ago...but am curious if anyone else has the energy...and what they would come up with.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Uh. Because its Vince McMahon and he can do whatever he pleases?

 

Argh..

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Because Brock is big, built, and white. He has a pedigree and is a product of the Wwf developmental system, aka 'A WWF BOY'.

 

GOLLY~! Why WOULDN'T he be pushed?

 

"“Oh woe is Nash”, but here’s a guy who spent a year on the sidelines collecting his Time-Warner money and lobbying for Scott Hall to come into the WWF, watched as Hall destroyed himself and got canned, took another three months off to rehab an arm injury despite not actually doing anything in the ring to warrant an arm injury, came back as a mouthpiece and had the finish of a couple of matches changed to protect his friend X-Pac, and finally made his triumphant return, only to trip and rip his leg apart. I guess this is the metaphoric “stake through the heart” that’ll get rid of you, eh Kev? On the bright side, you always have your hair. "

 

Hmm, Keith has his uses afterall Good Paragraph.

[Guest Downhome]

As for SK, I really don't have an opinion. I just don't care for the way he writes, I suppose you can say it annoy's me. However, as far as Brock goes, I feel he COULD be over, but WWE is just going at it the entirely wrong way. In my opinion, Heyman is doing more harm than good. I say let Brock actually develope as his own character/person, and have Heyman get with someone who could be of better use.

[Guest Human Fly]

I wonder if his mega-push may do more harm then good down the road. When HHH got his mega-push he had already been around for a while, and had been over before. If Brock doesn't get over, and then he gets de-pushed it will be really hard for him to ever be over.

[Guest Downhome]

I wonder if his mega-push may do more harm then good down the road. When HHH got his mega-push he had already been around for a while, and had been over before. If Brock doesn't get over, and then he gets de-pushed it will be really hard for him to ever be over.

There is no way in hell they will depush him. It's begun, and hey are going to FORCE him to eventually get over. It wont take much, but they best damn well get to it soon.

[Guest cynicalprofit]

Drugs, serious mind altering, and mind melting drugs. Thats the ONLY thing that would make any sense.

 

Well after pillman died, things got better, maybe another tragedy and it can happen again.

 

I still say a questionaire is the way to go, but that would prove vince is wrong in his opinion, so there goes that idea.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

When you have an asshole boss and a bunch of yes-men who are afraid to challenge his ideas no (no matter how shitty they may be), the product usually suffers.

[Guest Razor Roman]

You have to admit when Heyman screws over Brock Lesnar and Brock turns on Heyman, it will be huge. That will be what really gets him over.

[Guest welshjerichomark]

whats the link 2 scott keith's rants? i only have a really old page stored in my favorites

[Guest Ripper]

"“Oh woe is Nash”, but here’s a guy who spent a year on the sidelines collecting his Time-Warner money and lobbying for Scott Hall to come into the WWF, watched as Hall destroyed himself and got canned, took another three months off to rehab an arm injury despite not actually doing anything in the ring to warrant an arm injury, came back as a mouthpiece and had the finish of a couple of matches changed to protect his friend X-Pac, and finally made his triumphant return, only to trip and rip his leg apart. I guess this is the metaphoric “stake through the heart” that’ll get rid of you, eh Kev? On the bright side, you always have your hair. "

 

This is where a guy like Kieth has to stop and realize that wrestling has become too serious to him. Even if Nash did all that in the paragraph, how is any of that even close to not having sypmathy for a guy that injured himself trying to entertain the fans(and got one of the bigger pops of the night...yes, Nash is over).

 

If Kieth injured his jaw and it took away from his livlihood of eating large sandwiches and gaining weight, I think we would all feel his pain. Why can't he show the same repect for Nash.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Why can't he show the same repect for Nash.

The same could be said about Nash's dissing of Arn Anderson in 97. I'm not saying Keith is a saint, but like I said in the other Nash thread, karma is a fickle, fickle master.

[Guest Brian]

Nash is a heel, not a face, Ripper.

 

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Book's black. Unfortunately, we know how it works.

 

RVD can get Brock over.

 

That's WWE logic.

[Guest HHH's 'Roid Needle]

Um, I think its pretty obvious why the WWE doesn't "get it". SK should have put it this way:

RVD--Not Vince's Creation

Booker T--Not Vince's Creation

Brock Lesnar--Vince's Creation. Who gets the SS Title Shot? VINCE'S BOY, of course! Vince has a history of burying and not pushing things that are not his own. Austin was pushed for 2 reasons. First, they were forced to. Second, he's a completely different character than in WCW. Booker and RVD are basically the same. He hates things that are not his own. He hates Angle BECAUSE of the Olympic shit. He hates it that the Olympic Wrestlers spit on "Sports Entertainment". Lesnar was just a collegiate athlete. They never spend much time talking about ANGLE'S collegiate career, do they? That's right, no.

The list is long and hard, my friends. Angle, Tajiri, RVD, Booker, All the cruisers, Storm, Mike Awesome, hell, all of WCW. Eddy. Benoit. I could go on. But, the bottom line is, whether purposely or not, Vince's pushed HIS creations(Taker, Test, Kane, HHH, Bradshaw, Lesnar, Hogan, Rock), not someone else's.

If Vince pushes someone else's creation to the top, he would have to admit to himself that someone is better than he is, and that he is nothing more than a reduced, pathetic, failure of an old man who can no longer get the job done in his current position.

And in closing, Vince HATES the high flyers(RVD), and Vince is probably one of the biggest racists walking God's Green Earth, hence every Black Guy has to act like some over the top goofball, and every Japanese Looking Guy, well, see Tajiri and Yokozuna. They aren't just people to Vince. They are "coloreds".

[Guest Ripper]

It is hi-fucking-larious when people act like Angle belongs in the group of non-pushed superstars. This guy has been pushed to the moon every waking moment of his career short of a few months. Come on now.

[Guest Whatmaniac]

I don't reference KEith that often...if ever.

 

But he hit the nail on the head this time.

 

"Let’s see: RVD: Over. Tommy Dreamer: Over in Philly. Brock Lesnar: Not over. Recipiant of Summerslam title shot: You do the math."

 

 

"Booker’s their big star for the future but he never wins, RVD’s their big star for the future but he never does anything meaningful, Brock Lesnar’s their big star for the future but you can hear crickets fart every time he appears – it goes on and on."

 

 

Even a guy who is generally anti-RVD can see it...why can't the WWE?

 

seriously?

 

ANyone want to venture a guess?

 

Becuase I gave up on WWE logic a long time ago...but am curious if anyone else has the energy...and what they would come up with.

 

 

Well, from what I have heard, RVD's particular style is regarded by the WWF locker room as being at best difficult to work with due to the inconsistent timing. At worst, RVD is perceived as being dangerous in the ring by his co-workers. If enough people in the locker room say this, then the bookers may get the impression that RVd is not main-event material.

 

However, I think that Vince McMahon has become very conservative considering the string of injuries to many of his top stars. Would you want to make a long term investment in someone who uses so much "high risk" offense? Also, if RVD continues to wrestle his current style, he will likely deteriorate much more quickly than most due to the heavy schedule that the WWF has. Remember how quickly Sabu and Jeff Hardy deteriorated because they would not adopt a more technical ring style.

 

 

BTW, why do people on this board assume that Vince is hostile to non-WWF performers? Weren't Austin, Triple H, Undertaker, and Mick Foley all in WCW and/or ECW at one point or another? If past affiliations did not hurt their pushes, why would it matter to the current crop of ex-WCW and ECW talents

[Guest EricMM]

BTW, why do people on this board assume that Vince is hostile to non-WWF performers? Weren't Austin, Triple H, Undertaker, and Mick Foley all in WCW and/or ECW at one point or another? If past affiliations did not hurt their pushes, why would it matter to the current crop of ex-WCW and ECW talents

 

Austin in WCW was (if I hear correctly) a blonde haired guy with a different gimmick. In WWF they created Stone Cold Steve Austin, Austin 3:16, etc.

 

Triple H in WCW was Terra Ryzig? Supposedly a gimmick similer to the whole Hunter Hearst Helmsely Greenwich snob character, but HHH never got pushed until DX and The Corporation, in which he was a much different character.

 

Undertaker and Mean Mark Callous are so differnt it's like they weren't the same person.

 

Foley got over as Mankind first then they brought in Cactus Jack and Dude Love.

 

Do you see a trend? It would be one thing if RVD came in and started calling himself I dunno something else, something NOT ECW related. Same with Booker T, he is still affiliated with WCW.

 

And look at these people compared to people Vince "created", Angle, Lesnar, Test. These people will get bigger pushes from the get go. They could easily have given someone else Lesnar or Angle's win record, but they didn't. If RVD got that push, plus his catchphrase, AND his moves, lord. But he didn't, he's lucky if he main events a match.

 

If we're right, vince does not want to have people get over on Gimmicks he didn't think up. It maybe sound too egotistical to be true, but what other answers fit? NONE. It may still be that we don't have all the answers but...

[Guest Whatmaniac]

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Austin in WCW was (if I hear correctly) a blonde haired guy with a different gimmick. In WWF they created Stone Cold Steve Austin, Austin 3:16, etc.

 

Actually, Stone Cold was quite similar to Austin's ECW Gimmick.

 

Triple H in WCW was Terra Ryzig? Supposedly a gimmick similer to the whole Hunter Hearst Helmsely Greenwich snob character, but HHH never got pushed until DX and The Corporation, in which he was a much different character.

 

Not true, Triple H got a couple of Intercontinental title reigns and won King of the Ring in 1997 under his Grenwich snob character. He was supposed to get a huge push in 1996 but his clique buddies screwed him over. Granted, Triple H did not get over until DX came along, but the push was there.

 

Undertaker and Mean Mark Callous are so differnt it's like they weren't the same person.

 

Fair enough, though I don't think that Mean Mark was very marketable.

 

Foley got over as Mankind first then they brought in Cactus Jack and Dude Love.

 

But he was pushed equally in all three incarnations, perhaps most heavily as Cactus Jack, his old WCW and ECW persona.

 

Do you see a trend? It would be one thing if RVD came in and started calling himself I dunno something else, something NOT ECW related. Same with Booker T, he is still affiliated with WCW.

 

Then how do you explain the pushes of the Dudley Boyz? They got over by utilizing the very tactics and gimmickry that made them famous in the first place. For that matter, how does one account for Chris Beniot's and Chris Jericho's high positions relative to where they were in WCW? RVD has gotten a huge push as well without changing his act much.

 

And look at these people compared to people Vince "created", Angle, Lesnar, Test. These people will get bigger pushes from the get go. They could easily have given someone else Lesnar or Angle's win record, but they didn't. If RVD got that push, plus his catchphrase, AND his moves, lord. But he didn't, he's lucky if he main events a match.

 

Test has not really gotten a big push. More like a series of half-hearted pushes that are aborted after a few months or even a few weeks. I would have to say that RVD is actually better off than most of the "homegrown" WWF talent.

 

If we're right, vince does not want to have people get over on Gimmicks he didn't think up. It maybe sound too egotistical to be true, but what other answers fit? NONE. It may still be that we don't have all the answers but...

 

Vince likes gimmicks that are marketable. When an incoming star is repackaged, it is often because his or her previous gimmick either a) won't sell merchandise, b)was not that good to begin with (see Lance Storm and Kanyon), or c) is built around a style of wrestling that is perceived as dangerous by the WWF top brass (see Tazz and Mike Awesome).

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

But, the bottom line is, whether purposely or not, Vince's pushed HIS creations(Taker, Test, Kane, HHH, Bradshaw, Lesnar, Hogan, Rock), not someone else's.

That explains why Chris Jericho went into WrestleMania as Champion after a three month reign (which hasn't been matched yet this year)

 

 

And don't give me none of that "dog poop" and "Steph's coffeeboy" crap. Steph is responsible for booking that crap.

[Guest CanadianChris]

On a point of order...

 

To turn a phrase, HHH screwed HHH. No one forced him to go out there at MSG and do what he did. He did it, and was punished for it.

 

And there's no way that Cactus Jack was pushed more than Mankind. Hell, Cactus was barely pushed more than Dude Love. Foley went through the first Hell in a Cell as Mankind, he won the title as Mankind, he created Socko as Mankind, he teamed with the Rock as Mankind. Hell, Mankind's on the cover of his first book.

 

I don't think Vince is prejudiced toward "WWF guys" vs. "WCW guys," though. Now, if we're talking about big guys vs. little guys, it's a whole other story, and history bears that fact out.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Vince's creations are almost always the ones to get the push. For every fluke like the Dudley Boyz getting over, there are a million DDP's and, and Chuck Pulumbo's, and Booker T's who are repackaged, re-built, and then given pushes.

 

The story with the Austin character is diferent. His originial gimick was the Ringmaster, as he was paired with Debiase because they felt he wasn't a good enough talker. After ditching Debiase, he pretty much created the "Stone Cold" character by himself. Sure, he didn't just tell Vince he wanted to be called "Stone Cold" now, but he slowly transformed himself into that character and even then, it probably wouldn't have even succeeded had the MSG Kliq incident not happened, because then Austin wouldn't have won King of the Ring, HHH would have. Austin used that lucky opportunity to get himself over to the point that they had to push him. Vince's plans for Austin when he first arived were nothing like what ended up happening. It's practically a mirracle that things played out the way they did.

 

Mick was reinvented as Mankind right off the bat, and wasn't pushed as anything else until once he got that persona over. Then Dude Love was created, and then finally he was allowed to bring back Cactus because he had two other successfull characters to fall back on if Vince ever wanted to get rid of him. The only real push Cactus got was at the end of Foley's career, and that was mainly because it gave HHH that much more of a rub when he was put over him.

 

First of all, HHH was never a known guy in WCW, so the likelyhood of Vince wanting to re-package him was less likely, because he wasn't usually assosiated with WCW. With a different name, I think that was all Vince needed.

 

As for Jericho and Benoit, Jericho entered as essentially the same character that he had in WCW, but I don't think Vince was expecting it to work nearly as well as it did, because if you remember correctly, he was jobbing to X-Pac within less than a month of his entry and he essentially had his legs cut out from under him entirely. He re-invented himself as a face, came up with a bunch of new catch-phrases to put on T-shirts, and then they pushed him. His current "Living Legend" character is different enough from WCW Jericho that it doesn't really matter, and even so, he had his legs cut out from his push all the same. Benoit, on the other hand, was a face by the time he left WCW, and subsequently, was only given a considerable push in WCW as a face. His heel character was different, mainly because he talked. Benoit hardly ever talked in WCW, so just the fact that he was given things like catch phrases and promo time in the WWF set the character appart well enough for it to be considered a Vince MchMahon creation.

 

I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, but even the nWo, which will always be known as an Eric Bischoff creation (even though he ripped it off from someone else), was essentially re-packaged. I mean, look how easilly Vince allowed Austin to burry them. Heel Hogan (again, Bischoff was called a genius for creating the "Hollywood" character) did one job to Rock and then Hogan went back to the Red and Yellow, which is, say it with me, associated with Vince. Now, the nWo consists of one founding member, Nash, and is completely different from what most people associate as "WCW's nWo", and are getting pushed with ten times more effort than the begining. That's not coincidence, people.

[Guest Down Below]

Who can really, honestly and truly know what is going on inside the mind of Vince McMahon?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

That's not coincidence, people.

I don't think the WWEG expects it to be. Vince has actually said in interviews, IIRC, that he wants people to get over "with the WWF character, not their WCW character."

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Vince does not like to use other creations, successful or not. Jesus, how long did he use those blue barred cages for? Not to mention the whole 'must climb out of the cage to win' stip which he added. His ropes are still made out of rope rather than cable and his rings were/are larger than his contemporaries. AND WHY THE FUCK DID HE CHANGE WCW'S LOGO?!

[Guest Whatmaniac]

Vince's creations are almost always the ones to get the push. For every fluke like the Dudley Boyz getting over, there are a million DDP's and, and Chuck Pulumbo's, and Booker T's who are repackaged, re-built, and then given pushes.

 

Tell that to Test, Val Venis, Christian, and the various other WWF creations that are lower on the card than many of the WCW refugees, or at least in a state of parity. This also does not explain the huge pushes of Vader, William Regal and in the early 1990's of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. All of these guys were WCW employees and most of them enjoyed their greatest sucess in the WWF. And how about the Nasty boys and the Steiners? They were totally made by WCW and were pushed into immediate contention for the tag titles when they jumped to the WWF. Scott Steiner was even supposed to receive a mega-push in 1994 before he got hurt. Heck, WCW's franchise player, Ric Flair became a two time WWF champion without any major reinvention of his character.

 

 

The story with the Austin character is diferent. His originial gimick was the Ringmaster, as he was paired with Debiase because they felt he wasn't a good enough talker. After ditching Debiase, he pretty much created the "Stone Cold" character by himself. Sure, he didn't just tell Vince he wanted to be called "Stone Cold" now, but he slowly transformed himself into that character and even then, it probably wouldn't have even succeeded had the MSG Kliq incident not happened, because then Austin wouldn't have won King of the Ring, HHH would have. Austin used that lucky opportunity to get himself over to the point that they had to push him. Vince's plans for Austin when he first arived were nothing like what ended up happening. It's practically a mirracle that things played out the way they did.

 

Yes, but Austin got his big push by basically reverting to the character he played in ECW. He did not get his push as the Ringmaster.

 

Mick was reinvented as Mankind right off the bat, and wasn't pushed as anything else until once he got that persona over. Then Dude Love was created, and then finally he was allowed to bring back Cactus because he had two other successfull characters to fall back on if Vince ever wanted to get rid of him. The only real push Cactus got was at the end of Foley's career, and that was mainly because it gave HHH that much more of a rub when he was put over him.

 

The Cactus Jack persona was always billed as the most dangerous of Mick Foley's three incarnations. He was always treated as more of a threat as Cactus Jack than as Mankind or Dude Love. That is why it was Cactus Jack vs. Triple H in 2000 rather than Mankind or Dude Love vs. Triple H. Obviously, the WWF believed that beating Cactus Jack meant more than beating Mankind. Otherwise, they would not have gone through with a character change before the Royal Rumble.

 

First of all, HHH was never a known guy in WCW,

 

 

The same could be said of Lance Storm and Chuck Palumbo. They were not in WCW for long and came in at a time when very few people were watching WCW programming. Heck, one could say that any of the lower-midcard people in WCW were not known guys.

 

so the likelyhood of Vince wanting to re-package him was less likely, because he wasn't usually assosiated with WCW. With a different name, I think that was all Vince needed.

 

Again, Triple H got his first big push while using his old WCW gimmick. Triple H's postion in WCW was not that different from many of the WCW guys that came in now.

 

As for Jericho and Benoit, Jericho entered as essentially the same character that he had in WCW, but I don't think Vince was expecting it to work nearly as well as it did, because if you remember correctly, he was jobbing to X-Pac within less than a month of his entry and he essentially had his legs cut out from under him entirely.

 

It was originally supposed to be Ken Shamrock vs. Chris Jericho, which was a fairly high profile feud at the time. He also got to engage in promo duels with the top stars and he won the IC title as his old WCW character. The subsequent changes could be construed as character development and an increase in the marketability of the character.

 

 

Benoit, on the other hand, was a face by the time he left WCW, and subsequently, was only given a considerable push in WCW as a face. His heel character was different, mainly because he talked. Benoit hardly ever talked in WCW, so just the fact that he was given things like catch phrases and promo time in the WWF set the character appart well enough for it to be considered a Vince MchMahon creation.

 

If Beniot never talked in WCW, then how can you say that he had a well defined character? Even before he began talking regularly, Beniot got a really big push. His first match was with the WWF champion where he was made to look like a million bucks and he soon gained the IC title in the semi-main event at Wrestlemania. Beniot's character development did not really take place until mid May 2000, after Beniot was already established as one of the top guys.

 

 

I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, but even the nWo, which will always be known as an Eric Bischoff creation (even though he ripped it off from someone else), was essentially re-packaged. I mean, look how easilly Vince allowed Austin to burry them. Heel Hogan (again, Bischoff was called a genius for creating the "Hollywood" character) did one job to Rock and then Hogan went back to the Red and Yellow, which is, say it with me, associated with Vince. Now, the nWo consists of one founding member, Nash, and is completely different from what most people associate as "WCW's nWo", and are getting pushed with ten times more effort than the begining. That's not coincidence, people.

 

The NWO's original gimmick (that of WWF stars invading WCW), did not really translate well into the WWF, so some repackaging was necessary. And for the record, all of the original members of the NWO were Vince's creations and they still got buried. How is the current version of the NWO getting a better push? The group started by beating up the Rock and Austin and is now meandering in the midcard doing little of note and lacking any of the direction that they had coming in.

[Guest Ripper]

"Well, from what I have heard, RVD's particular style is regarded by the WWF locker room as being at best difficult to work with due to the inconsistent timing. At worst, RVD is perceived as being dangerous in the ring by his co-workers. If enough people in the locker room say this, then the bookers may get the impression that RVd is not main-event material.

 

However, I think that Vince McMahon has become very conservative considering the string of injuries to many of his top stars. Would you want to make a long term investment in someone who uses so much "high risk" offense? Also, if RVD continues to wrestle his current style, he will likely deteriorate much more quickly than most due to the heavy schedule that the WWF has. Remember how quickly Sabu and Jeff Hardy deteriorated because they would not adopt a more technical ring style."

 

The "dangerous" RVD is the main guy that all the stars say they want to work with. His "dangerous" in ring style has yet to injure anyone in over 10 years. 3-4 guys got some CUTS last year, now internet dirst sheets still talk about how dangerous everyone considers him. You should notice that the main ones saying this are the guys that talked about how RVD was bush-league and would never be able to get over in the Big time. They are still trying to remove their foot from their mouth and any chance they get they come up with crap.

 

RVD has been injured ONCE in over 10 years of his wrestling career. ONCE!!! ONE ankle injury. Name any top performer that can clam only one injury that kept them out for a amount of time in a whole decade.

 

Bottom line, most to all of the excuses that anyone can make up as reasons to not push RVD doesn't hold water.

Lets review:

 

1: The "dangerous" style that he uses is yet to injure anyone

 

2: He is the most over guy on Raw.

 

3: He puts on cosistantly good matches.

 

4: His "risky" style has caused him to be injured once in the past 10 years...

 

5: Despite all the internet crap, the guys like to work with him.

 

Sooo...why isn't he getting pushed?

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

It is hi-fucking-larious when people act like Angle belongs in the group of non-pushed superstars. This guy has been pushed to the moon every waking moment of his career short of a few months. Come on now.

People think of Angle as not being pushed because he has the balls to go out there and get his ass kicked to put someone over when it's needed. He's not a selfish bitch like everyone else.

[Guest Whatmaniac]

Well, from what I have heard, RVD's particular style is regarded by the WWF locker room as being at best difficult to work with due to the inconsistent timing. At worst, RVD is perceived as being dangerous in the ring by his co-workers. If enough people in the locker room say this, then the bookers may get the impression that RVd is not main-event material.

 

However, I think that Vince McMahon has become very conservative considering the string of injuries to many of his top stars. Would you want to make a long term investment in someone who uses so much "high risk" offense? Also, if RVD continues to wrestle his current style, he will likely deteriorate much more quickly than most due to the heavy schedule that the WWF has. Remember how quickly Sabu and Jeff Hardy deteriorated because they would not adopt a more technical ring style."

 

The "dangerous" RVD is the main guy that all the stars say they want to work with. His "dangerous" in ring style has yet to injure anyone in over 10 years. 3-4 guys got some CUTS last year, now internet dirst sheets still talk about how dangerous everyone considers him. You should notice that the main ones saying this are the guys that talked about how RVD was bush-league and would never be able to get over in the Big time. They are still trying to remove their foot from their mouth and any chance they get they come up with crap.

 

 

My apologies. The normally reliable ProwrestlingTorch seems to have misinformed me.

 

RVD has been injured ONCE in over 10 years of his wrestling career. ONCE!!! ONE ankle injury. Name any top performer that can clam only one injury that kept them out for a amount of time in a whole decade.

 

 

Bottom line, most to all of the excuses that anyone can make up as reasons to not push RVD doesn't hold water.

Lets review:

 

1: The "dangerous" style that he uses is yet to injure anyone

 

Unless you count all those times in 2001 where he caused Angle to bleed involuntarily. That sort of thing should not be happening at all.

 

2: He is the most over guy on Raw.

 

"Hardy Boyz" heat. The high flying moves are over, not the character. The WWF needs to better develop RVD's character before his moves become stale due to repitition and overexposure.

 

3: He puts on cosistantly good matches.

 

The bookers are protecting him by putting him with opponents who can reign in his spotty tendencies.

 

4: His "risky" style has caused him to be injured once in the past 10 years...

 

As I have stated before, the WWF has a much tougher schedule for its employees than ECW ever did. RVD was able to avoid injury in the past because he was not working as much. In the WWF, the risk is much greater. And it is not just the run-of-the-mill injuries so much as the wear and tear that accumulates over time. All those sick bumps add up pretty quickly. If RVD does not alter his style, he will likely end up like Jeff Hardy and X-Pac in a few years; a pale shadow of his former self.

 

5: Despite all the internet crap, the guys like to work with him.

 

Sooo...why isn't he getting pushed?

 

Why make a long term investment in someone who will only be good for 2-3 years?

[Guest cabbageboy]

In regards to the grueling demands of WWE over ECW, it's sorta bullshit. In ECW RVD wrestled a vastly more violent and intense style of match, even if it was less times per week. In WWE he just wrestles typical matches, not much use of weapons.

 

I wouldn't call busting someone open injuring them. He hasn't even busted anyone open since Oct. or so anyway, so I hardly see how it is a problem.

[Guest Spicy McHaggis]

Because Brock is big, built, and white.

So were The Rock, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels...

 

OH WAIT...