Christian: Over-rated?

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

I hope I'm not the only one but..

 

I've heard this "Edge sucks..blah blah blah" thing being tossed around, yet Christian seems to be looked at as the one more deserving of the push. "His mic skills are better..his moves are better.."

 

Is this a real feeling, or the smark-bias for wrestlers that are being 'screwed over'? Realistically..Edge/Christian seem to be pretty much the same.

 

Christian's mic skills aren't that stellar..seeing as he resorts to cheap heat 85% of the time. His moves always seem to involve some sort of headlock, or DDT, or variation of his finisher.

 

I can't really think right now. I hate leaving a post without more decent reasons..but..

 

-Shiro

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Christian has a personality.

[Guest Redhawk]

I love Christian as a entertainer, but I will admit that his moveset is pretty weak. He doesn't have nearly as many moves or the athleticism as the other cruiserweights, so he's lumped in with the small heavyweights like Jericho, Angle, Benoit, etc. And when you compare Christian's moves to those guys, well, there is no comparison. So I do see your point there. But on the mic and just his little mannerisms and selling and all that stuff...he's great.

[Guest MrRant]

Seems forced....like Edge's.

[Guest papacita]

I won't say that he's overrated, but I won't say he was the better of the team either.

 

As far as mic skills go...I dunno, it seemed like he carried E &C in that category, because honestly, I can remember more of Christian's quotes from that time period than I can Edge's. There's nothing wrong with cheap heel heat, and in his defense, he hasn't had the most interesting things to talk about since the team split up.

 

In-ring...I've said before, I'm not much on judging workrate, but they seemed about even to me. I think Christian has the better moveset (his Unprettier, his inverted DDT and the variation into the neckbreaker [or whatever you'd call that move where he drives his opponent's neck into his knee]). For the most part, his moves actually look like they hurt, where as a lot of Edge's strength seems more visual than anything (i.e.: The Downward Spiral (love the move, but can't see it hurting), the Edgecution (too unrealistic for a man that size, IMO), the Edge-o-matic (see Downward Spiral) and his spear). However, one thing I'd say about Edge is that his style and movement in the ring will get me more interested in a match than Christian's would, and if the fans are responding to him, then he must be doing something right.

 

They've both got charisma...I dunno, it's a toss up IMO.

[Guest Redhawk]

Do you notice that Christian's primary function in all of the TLC/ladder matches was to take the sickest bumps and assist Edge in double-team moves? That tells me something about how exciting of an offensive wrestler he is as compared to someone like a Hardy Boy.

[Guest caboose]

Christian always seemed more confident on the mic than Edge. Even though Edge is now playing a Face who supposedly 'Fears Nothing', his promos are still the smartass promos (Jericho Syndrome) from the days of E & C.

Christian however, we've all seen cut a REAL promo. The promo he cut after turning on Edge in Toronto back in September of 2001 was gold.

As far as riing work goes, Christian can play Heel worker better than Edge, which for me demonstrates his more capable ring skills.

Don't forget Christian used to have a mean 450 Splash which for some reason he wasn't allowed to use, then Jeff Hardy busted it out a couple of times during 2000.

I think the key reason Edge may have been pushed over Christian was Edge's size and look. Edge is 6' 4", and has the more 'classic' SuperStar look.

I however maintain that Christian is the better wrestler in all areas.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

I think he's underrated, definitely misused. I like his moveset well enough, and he can bump like hell. Certainly just that bit better than edge in all areas. Except height. >

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

How can someone almost forgotten by the higher powers possibly be over-rated? If anything, the Smarks are the only ones that seem to realise that Christian has awesome charisma and can really work a mic. He ain't half bad in the ring either, and has a wicked looking finishing move to boot. Whats wrong? He's not 9 feet tall, Vince creams himself everytime he sees a wrestler over 7 foot.

 

I hate you Vince...but thanks for putting the belt on Taker!

 

This has been the Taker Mark

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

I don't think it's fair to say or ask if Christian is over rated until he is pushed and gets a chance to shine. Put Christian in the ring with Angle, Benoit, Eddie, etc, and then see how great he looks. He hasn't been given the chance, hopefully "Team Canada" gives him a chance. How ever, it looks like him and Storm are gonna be stuck in the, going No Where, Tag Division.

 

As far as Charisma and Promo work goes. No doubt he has Charisma, and it's pretty much his character to get cheap heat, so I don't think you can judge him on that.

[Guest Goodear]

How can someone almost forgotten by the higher powers possibly be over-rated? If anything, the Smarks are the only ones that seem to realise that Christian has awesome charisma and can really work a mic.  He ain't half bad in the ring either, and has a wicked looking finishing move to boot.  

 

He was saying Christian was overrated by the board, not by Vince. Anyway, Christian is a fine bumper, but his offence is completely predictable and only has a handfull of offensive moves that don't start with "chin" and end in "lock". I find him to be prefectly acceptable, but he's really isn't the worker Edge is as a single.

 

Whats wrong? He's not 9 feet tall, Vince creams himself everytime he sees a wrestler over 7 foot.

 

Boy, talk about the statement that just isn't that true anymore. Of the Undisputed champions, Undertaker is the only one that tops 6'7" ... Hogan was pushed because because of his pops, Jericho is tiny, and Triple H is average height for a wrestler. Other champions like Rock, Austin, and Angle aren't really towering guys either.

[Guest the pinjockey]

Anyway, Christian is a fine bumper, but his offence is completely predictable and only has a handfull of offensive moves that don't start with "chin" and end in "lock".

In Christian's defense it is kind of hard to show off a vast moveset when you are only wrestling in two-three minute matches with guys that are squashing you. (Lately with him fighting Mark Henry and Rikishi)

[Guest mach7]

I can't really think right now. I hate leaving a post without more decent reasons..but..

Then why bother trying to make a point if you can't think of any decent reason to get it across?

[Guest Goodear]

But by the same token I can't really think of a match where Christian pulled out a whole lot of offence. It's always Reverse DDT, Reverse DDT-backbreaker, and unprettier and then the punching and chinlockery begins. Even in the tag matches with Edge, Christian never displayed a whole load of offensive ability.

[Guest Harry Hood]

How ever, it looks like him and Storm are gonna be stuck in the, going No Where, Tag Division.

Yeh but they need to somehow rejuvinate the tag division and with two good heel workers there, it won't be so bad methinks.

[Guest chirs3]

I like Edge more than Christian - except maybe for mic work...

[Guest Austin3164life]

Both he and Edge are solid upper-midcard wrestlers. I have never looked at either of them as being Main Event calibre. I could be wrong on that assumption. Christian is not overrated, it's just that he hasn't been given the time to emit any talent in the ring. Give him a proper feud against another solid opponent, and I feel Christian's talents will shine brighter. That is all.

[Guest GenerationNever]

First off, "Edge" and "Christian" are pretty dumb names to begin with. They were okay names when they were Canadian Goths(snicker)but they don't seem to fit well now. I do, however, think Jay Reso is more talented.

[Guest Raven_Effect01]

First off, "Edge" and "Christian" are pretty dumb names to begin with. They were okay names when they were Canadian Goths(snicker)but they don't seem to fit well now. I do, however, think Jay Reso is more talented

New lyrics to Christian's theme:"Ressssooo! Resssssoooo! And now, you're on your owwwwwnnnnnnnn!"

[Guest Invader3k]

Christian definitely needs some time of gimmick make over. He needs new ring gear, and maybe a hair cut as well.

[Guest M Nyland]

what were thier Suicide Blonde names?? were they Edge and Christian then too?

 

 

I do think Christian deserves his chance

[Guest Zack Malibu]

In Christian's defense it is kind of hard to show off a vast moveset when you are only wrestling in two-three minute matches with guys that are squashing you. (Lately with him fighting Mark Henry and Rikishi)

I agree with this. If they gave Christian a somewhat meaningful feud, and put him in a showcase match with an opponent known for having decent-very good matches, he might be able to show more of what he's capable of. The last few months he's just done quick squashes (either of his own or was squashed), done run-ins, won by a run-in/cheating, or had 2-3 minute matches on Smackdown. And the talent that he did fight (previously mentioned Henry, Rikishi, etc.) are bigger athletes, and in order to keep that aura there is no way the bookers would let Christian "do the impossible", as certain moves in his style that he can do to workers like Edge, etc. would look unbeliveable if done to a larger, bulkier opponent. Christian is just a notch above Cruiserweight (and in reality should probably be a cruiserweight), so having him dominate with offense would make the larger faces look weak (though I'm still not sure why Mark Henry is even still around.)

[Guest Zack Malibu]

what were thier Suicide Blonde names?? were they Edge and Christian then too?

 

 

I do think Christian deserves his chance

Their names previous to the WWF/E were Sexton Hardcastle (Edge) and Christian Cage (Christian)

 

Sexton/Edge and Joe E. Legend (Just Joe) made up a team called Sex and Violence. They were joined by Rhino Richards (Rhyno) and Christian in a group called Thug Life, who did a Pro-Canada/Hart Foundation style gimmick.

[Guest M Nyland]

now THAT sounds awesome....

[Guest dreamer420]

yes he is way too overrater. his career hasn't done anything since breaking up with edge and dropping the ic title. he has been a crybaby jobber, whose matches suck now too because he is using the same two or three moves.

[Guest TheSmarkzone]

Christian has better mic skills, Edge has better in-ring skills. Simple.

 

And by the way, Edge is a cool ring name.

[Guest jtronx]

I dunno. I always liked Christian better. With a name like that, though, I just can't see myself buying one of his shirts.

 

If he had one, that is.

 

Seriously, though, I enjoy watching his matches. He takes a good bump, moves around the ring well, and seems to always be involved in good matches. I'd like to see him get a chance to be in a good long match with a good worker, though. The last good PPV match I remember him being in was the ladder match against Edge...

[Guest GenerationNever]

Well, since Adam and Jay are both from Toronto, I always called them the "Toronto Blondes."