Guest O.J. Hart Report post Posted July 16, 2002 This is my home team and i waould like to know what you think about them. I think their line-up should be as follows- SS J. Wilson 2B P. Reese C J. Kendall LF B. Giles 1B C. Wilson CF R. Mackowiak 3B A. Ramirez RF A. Hyzdu They should send Anderson and Beimel to the bullpen, release Villone, and the rotation and bullpen would look like this. 1. K. Benson 2. K. Wells 3. J. Fogg 4. A. Burnside 5. J. Grabow or R. Vogelsong(when he's off the DL) Bullpen LR- S. Lowe MR- J. Manzanillo MR- S. Sauerbeck MR- J. Beimel Relief Specialist- J. Anderson Setup- B. Boehringer Cl- M. Williams With a trade of Kevin Young, Jimmy Anerson, Adrian Brown, and a mior leauger to the Reds for Sean Casey and Chris Reitsma, this team would be all ready with Casey and Giles at 3 and 4, and Reitsma in the rotation, this would be perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest geniusMoment Report post Posted July 16, 2002 I live in cincy and there is no way we would ever make that trade. Kevin Young is an overpaid player and Reistma has an era under 3.5. We have plenty of outfielders. I will jump off the suspension bridge the day Jim makes that trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 16, 2002 Kevin Young is an overpaid player and Reistma has an era under 3.5. Correct on Kevin Young. Pittsburgh would have a hard time giving him away with his salary. SS J. Wilson 2B P. Reese C J. Kendall LF B. Giles 1B C. Wilson CF R. Mackowiak 3B A. Ramirez RF A. Hyzdu Wilson (.333 OBP) Reese (.304 OBP) You're never going to score any runs that way. They really need to let Aramis Ramirez heal up too. And I'd keep Jimmy Anderson in the rotation. He's got some Jamie Moyer vibes about him stylewise, and I doubt he'd be more effective in the pen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sean Mooney Report post Posted July 22, 2002 I think the Pirates are the most doomed franchise in baseball as far as winning a championship goes. You look at their lineup and its pathetic. Brian Giles is their only great hitter. Aramis Ramirez I think could also be good but I think he's struggling cuz of an injury. Jason Kendall never became the player I thought he was gonna be and hasn't produced the same kinda numbers since his ankle injury some years ago. The rest of the guys wouldn't even have a job on any other major league team. The Pirates do have about 3 good starting pitchers and a great closer. I think the only team in worst shape in the either league would be the Devil Rays. I don't know how the minor league system is, but I haven't heard Peter Gammons praise it, so it can't be that good. And even Pirate minor league phenoms never make it (chad hermanson, among others). I used to root for the Pirates every year cuz I thought they had some good young players. THis year I realized how bad of shape they really are. In case you care i'm a Dodgers Fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted July 22, 2002 Not only have they been one of the most pathetic franchises over the last five years...but they know it. And apparently, they're quite frustrated with it. *points to the recent series with St. Louis* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 22, 2002 They had a terrible GM for quite some time, and they've thrown big money at mediocre players. Still, they're getting better, and I see more hope for them then the Brewers or even the Marlins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 22, 2002 Not only have they been one of the most pathetic franchises over the last five years...but they know it. And apparently, they're quite frustrated with it. *points to the recent series with St. Louis* What part of this series are you pointing at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted July 23, 2002 What part of this series are you pointing at? Well, they blew out the Cardinals with 25+ runs in the first two games...and then all hell broke loose in the third game. Between the bizarre 3-0 count to Edmonds to the outright illegal slide into Vina by Brian Giles (there were two - on one, he was able to get the bag...on the other, not so much), I'm surprised the two teams didn't break out the semi-automatic rifles and start shooting between the bunkers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 23, 2002 Both of the times the benches cleared were just overreactions. On the first one Edmonds shouldn't have said anything to McClendon, and McClendon certainly shouldn't have come out of the dugout after him. Lots of people get pitched inside and that's the best way to get Edmonds out. Slides like the ones from Giles happen every day. I've never seen a big deal made of slides like those until this year. He had nothing to be mad about, both times Giles did touch the base, both times the double play was turned, and neither time was anyone hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 23, 2002 I don't know, the first slide was awfully misaimed. Reaching out to slide second base to touch is, while perfectly legal, not the bet way to approach it. Unless you're deliberately aiming to take out the second baseman. Heck, we see it all the time, and Vina takes it like a man, but lets not pretend Giles wasn't trying to take him down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 23, 2002 I don't know, the first slide was awfully misaimed. Reaching out to slide second base to touch is, while perfectly legal, not the bet way to approach it. Unless you're deliberately aiming to take out the second baseman. Heck, we see it all the time, and Vina takes it like a man, but lets not pretend Giles wasn't trying to take him down. Oh yeah, I know that he was trying to take him down, but there was nothing wrong with that. It was a legal move and has been used for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 23, 2002 My thoughts on The bucs? HA-HA-HA-HA! It's so tragic. Cincinnati and Minnesota make the same or less and yet They manage to make it in the Playoff race, while they languish in the celler. Why? They got idiots (not the usual fans) in management and they make dumb trades and deals. Oh and the Ballpark is a crock of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted July 24, 2002 Good old' PNC Park. I hate that bank with a passion. Funny thing was several years ago the Pirates were in the playoff hunt with a SUB .500 WINNING PERCENTAGE! They eventually lost the division to the Astros, but this town was abuzz with pennant fever, sadly. The next year, some teams got winning records, and the Bucs were back to be cellar dwellers. And I thought PNC Park was going to make them competitive. That's what all the RRI supporters said. (Anyone from Pittsburgh knows what I'm talking about.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 24, 2002 I hear the park itself is quite nice. Is that true? I've been thinking about taking the 6 hour drive sometime to see a game there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 24, 2002 I hear the park itself is quite nice. Is that true? I've been thinking about taking the 6 hour drive sometime to see a game there. The park is awesome, it's just the team that sucks, thus not making it worth the money to go inside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 24, 2002 That's why they have opponents! :-D I wouldn't mind seeing the Cardinals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 24, 2002 No, PNC is quite shitty along with it's accompanying team. Shit, 3RIVERS had more personality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted July 24, 2002 I wonder how many ATM service fees it took for PNC to get the naming rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
