why the WWE so desperate for Goldberg?

July 17, 2002

We hear constantly is that the WWE is calling Goldberg constanty wanting him to sign, rumors fly that one of the reasons Eric Bischoff came aboard is the WWE wants to use him to pursuade Goldberg to join the WWE. Sounds to me is that the WWE is desperate to gain Goldberg's services...

I think thats Downright Pathetic!

Pardon my french but

FUCK Goldberg!

all Goldberg is would be a Rating gimmick, like he was in WCW. He isn't a talented wrestler, he isn't crisp, he doesn't help the match by selling nothing, and not even gimmickly doesn't just doesn't. And yet everyone else MUST Sell to him like they were hit by a Brick Wall! Goldberg to what he attests himself Isn't a True wrestler, forget the fact he would be doing it for the money, which is why he is still on his couch eating cheetos because he is collecting those time warner checks for doing nothing. But he has no desire for the business, He doesn't feel like putting any effort beyond his own self promotion to assist in Wrestling Company or wrestlers for that matter. He is Selfish, he is Crap, and if the Cattle marks really want him, then I should sell them some swamp land I have in Florida!

yea sure Goldberg on Raw or smackdown would be like WOW , amazing, you don't see that everyday? But when the ratings don't rebound from the Great and Powerful Goldberg on WWE TV destroying deserving WWE wrestlers, then maybe people would realize what a Detriment to Morale of the Locker room he would be.

but thats just my humble Opinion.

July 17, 2002

I completely agree with you...I hope to La Parka that Goldberg isn't signed anytime soon. I actually really enjoyed seeing Bisch of WWE tv, but Goldberg would just be lame. Besides, what would poor Brock do? They essentially have the same gimmick.

July 17, 2002

*coughtshirtscoughmerchandisecoughmoneycough*

July 17, 2002

Are they really that desperate though? If they really wanted him, they just would have given in to his big money demands. They haven't done that yet, which shows they're not that stupid. Give 'em some credit.

If you can get Goldberg for a reasonable amount of money and he's willing to cooperate, let's face it, you want Goldberg in your promotion. It looks like for once WWE is being smart about it and trying to talk him down to a reasonable offer.

jester

July 17, 2002

You say he's nothing more than a rating gimmick, but isn't that all Vince cares about?

If he could, this show would be nothing but McMahons and big men. But since that doesn't draw ratings, Vince is going to try anything and everything to try and stir up business. Look at his former enemies that he has brought in:

Russo

Bischoff

Hogan

Hall

Nash

Dusty

Flair

Hell, he'd bring in Ted Turner and wrestle him if he could.

July 17, 2002

I personally don't see the point of Goldberg being brought in anymore, now that Austin is gone. I think that match would've gotten a bigger reaction then Rocky/Hogan.

July 17, 2002

They should sign Goldberg and have him face Regal again.

Ahhhhh good times

July 17, 2002

I personally don't see the point of Goldberg being brought in anymore, now that Austin is gone. I think that match would've gotten a bigger reaction then Rocky/Hogan.

Very true. Interestingly, Austin's quitting actually diminished Goldberg's value.

July 17, 2002

They should sign Goldberg and have him face Regal again.

Ahhhhh good times

Someone needs to post an MPEG of THAT match. I never saw it

July 17, 2002

I think the should just get La Parka. He has more charisma than Goldberg.

July 17, 2002

Goldberg doesn't want to sign with the WWF. If he wanted to, he would have done so already. If the WWF ever really wanted to screw Goldberg, all they would have to do is say that he's not signing with him. Everyone thinks he's coming back to wrestling, that's why the little interest that remains is able to exist. People really don't care about ex-wrestlers, and Goldberg isn't considered an ex-wrestler yet because he can still wrestle. I don't think people would care about him if he signed anywhere besides the WWF. I don't know how much it would even benefit the WWF because they don't know how to build long term feuds. The last good one they did was Triple H versus Angle and coincidentally, Stephanie McMahon wasn't writing back then. They would bring him in, not be able to write for him and push thepanic button. Goldberg wouldn't want to sign a short term deal with the WWF if he signed anything at all, and I don't think you should bring in someone for multiple years just to have one match.

July 18, 2002

I have NO clue either. You know...even at the peak of Goldberg's "popularity" the only time you EVER saw Goldberg t-shirts was on the backs of the scummiest people alive. I swear...last time a 50-some woman wheeling around a shopping card with several screaming kids.

Pathetic...

He was as manufactured as a boyband, and just as talented at what he does, too.

His chants were piped in, as we know, and even when genuine they seemed mocking, and said in the same tone as "booooooooring."

Plus the guy is notorious for getting injured, and I heard he has hardly worked out a lick in over a year. So, likely fat, lazy, out of condition, and bound to reinjure himself within the first month he comes back. Hey...wait a minute--that sounds familar... (the guy who first beat him?).

I agree--fuck Goldberg. The fact they'd even consider it shows you how lamebrained the people in charge are. Besides, with Broccoli, the Aryan Goldberg, who already is heatless, what good would the pathetic "original" be?

July 18, 2002

GOLDBERG = RATINGS And when he eventually does come to the WWE I'll bet you that the WWE will find a way to screw it up.

July 18, 2002

Goldberg doesn't want to sign with the WWF. If he wanted to, he would have done so already. If the WWF ever really wanted to screw Goldberg, all they would have to do is say that he's not signing with him. Everyone thinks he's coming back to wrestling, that's why the little interest that remains is able to exist. People really don't care about ex-wrestlers, and Goldberg isn't considered an ex-wrestler yet because he can still wrestle. I don't think people would care about him if he signed anywhere besides the WWF. I don't know how much it would even benefit the WWF because they don't know how to build long term feuds. The last good one they did was Triple H versus Angle and coincidentally, Stephanie McMahon wasn't writing back then. They would bring him in, not be able to write for him and push thepanic button. Goldberg wouldn't want to sign a short term deal with the WWF if he signed anything at all, and I don't think you should bring in someone for multiple years just to have one match.

I read he is just dicking them around to try to up his value

July 18, 2002

Goldberg doesn't want to sign with the WWF. If he wanted to, he would have done so already. If the WWF ever really wanted to screw Goldberg, all they would have to do is say that he's not signing with him. Everyone thinks he's coming back to wrestling, that's why the little interest that remains is able to exist. People really don't care about ex-wrestlers, and Goldberg isn't considered an ex-wrestler yet because he can still wrestle. I don't think people would care about him if he signed anywhere besides the WWF. I don't know how much it would even benefit the WWF because they don't know how to build long term feuds. The last good one they did was Triple H versus Angle and coincidentally, Stephanie McMahon wasn't writing back then. They would bring him in, not be able to write for him and push thepanic button. Goldberg wouldn't want to sign a short term deal with the WWF if he signed anything at all, and I don't think you should bring in someone for multiple years just to have one match.

I read he is just dicking them around to try to up his value

Actually, he is not dicking them for more money, he just does not like the product. He has constantly said so over and over and over. He doesnt like the sexual nature of the show. What is so hard to understand? He was paid about 80 to 90 percent of his Time Warner contract so in reality he doesnt need the money. He was quoted as saying he will return to wrestling, but supposedly leaning towards Japan, though the Jarretts will probably try to sign him....

July 18, 2002

I have NO clue either. You know...even at the peak of Goldberg's "popularity" the only time you EVER saw Goldberg t-shirts was on the backs of the scummiest people alive. I swear...last time a 50-some woman wheeling around a shopping card with several screaming kids.

Pathetic...

He was as manufactured as a boyband, and just as talented at what he does, too.

His chants were piped in, as we know, and even when genuine they seemed mocking, and said in the same tone as "booooooooring."

Plus the guy is notorious for getting injured, and I heard he has hardly worked out a lick in over a year. So, likely fat, lazy, out of condition, and bound to reinjure himself within the first month he comes back. Hey...wait a minute--that sounds familar... (the guy who first beat him?).

I agree--fuck Goldberg. The fact they'd even consider it shows you how lamebrained the people in charge are. Besides, with Broccoli, the Aryan Goldberg, who already is heatless, what good would the pathetic "original" be?

I agree. You dont have a clue. I would see small children and teens as well as other middle class people wearing his shirts so the T-shirt argument is garbage.....

I agree. You are pathetic. You say Goldberg was manufactured? Well, what do you call Undertaker/Rock/Austin/Hurricane/Lesnar/HHH/Angle etc.

etc. What you dont understand about the wrestling business is that every wrestler is manufactured. Its called a gimmick. Its been done since pro wrestling began......

As for the mocking chants of Goldberg, yeah when McMahon took over Nitro and he was mentioning names he could bring in that "piped" Goldberg chant sounded so damn real like an audience, even when McMahon had not even mentioned his name at all.....

As for notoriously getting injured??? Dude, smash your hand thru a car window that was not a prop and see if you dont hurt yourself. And what are these nagging injuries you keep referring too?? It sounds like speculation to me....

As for hardly working out and is fat and out of condition, well, I guess you dont see the Best Damn Sports Show on Fox Sports or any other interview or article with his pic as he seems to be in shape.....

I am not a Goldberg mark but I hate to read posts about a wrestler who just throws out stuff and does not know what he is talking about. A little research first please and you will not sound so foolish next time.....

July 18, 2002

I personally don't see the point of Goldberg being brought in anymore, now that Austin is gone. I think that match would've gotten a bigger reaction then Rocky/Hogan.

Very true. Interestingly, Austin's quitting actually diminished Goldberg's value.

You are right. Who would want to see Goldberg v Angle, Booker T, Rock, Undertaker, HHH or RVD??? Those matches would draw no fans and would suck............. <_<

July 18, 2002

It would be SO hypocritical if Goldberg signed with NWA:TNA instead of WWF, especially if his primary reason for not signing is WWF's perceived lascivious content.

I mean did anyone see TNA tonight? Here are some highlights: Goldilocks interviews Puppet (the midget), who is jerking off in a garbage can. "Would you like some porridge?" he asks the bombshell. Then she walks over to the Dupps who are practicing lighting things on fire and molesting their cousin. "You sure do have pretty lips," says Bo. "Thank you," replies Goldilocks. "No, I didn't mean those lips."

I mean, jesus, why don't they just have live sex shows. The midgets can bang the TNA girls in between matches and Ferrara can run out with a camcorder and give everyone golden showers.

July 18, 2002

I have NO clue either. You know...even at the peak of Goldberg's "popularity" the only time you EVER saw Goldberg t-shirts was on the backs of the scummiest people alive. I swear...last time a 50-some woman wheeling around a shopping card with several screaming kids.

Pathetic...

He was as manufactured as a boyband, and just as talented at what he does, too.

His chants were piped in, as we know, and even when genuine they seemed mocking, and said in the same tone as "booooooooring."

Plus the guy is notorious for getting injured, and I heard he has hardly worked out a lick in over a year. So, likely fat, lazy, out of condition, and bound to reinjure himself within the first month he comes back. Hey...wait a minute--that sounds familar... (the guy who first beat him?).

I agree--fuck Goldberg. The fact they'd even consider it shows you how lamebrained the people in charge are. Besides, with Broccoli, the Aryan Goldberg, who already is heatless, what good would the pathetic "original" be?

I agree. You dont have a clue. I would see small children and teens as well as other middle class people wearing his shirts so the T-shirt argument is garbage.....

I agree. You are pathetic. You say Goldberg was manufactured? Well, what do you call Undertaker/Rock/Austin/Hurricane/Lesnar/HHH/Angle etc.

etc. What you dont understand about the wrestling business is that every wrestler is manufactured. Its called a gimmick. Its been done since pro wrestling began......

As for the mocking chants of Goldberg, yeah when McMahon took over Nitro and he was mentioning names he could bring in that "piped" Goldberg chant sounded so damn real like an audience, even when McMahon had not even mentioned his name at all.....

As for notoriously getting injured??? Dude, smash your hand thru a car window that was not a prop and see if you dont hurt yourself. And what are these nagging injuries you keep referring too?? It sounds like speculation to me....

As for hardly working out and is fat and out of condition, well, I guess you dont see the Best Damn Sports Show on Fox Sports or any other interview or article with his pic as he seems to be in shape.....

I am not a Goldberg mark but I hate to read posts about a wrestler who just throws out stuff and does not know what he is talking about. A little research first please and you will not sound so foolish next time.....

Its not just thrown out there randomly. There is a difference between Undertaker, Austin, HHH, who were wrestlers before they got their gimmicks that made them where they are today, and Goldberg who basically was pulled off the street after his football career ended, gave him a Gimmick where he doesn't sell, Doesn't lose, everyone else sells like they were hit by Trucks and he get PAID for it. Learning the Basics of Wrestling and was thrown out there with Canned Goldberg chants to start this "Phenomnia" Oh please!

Because WCW was made the top name they of course would try too thrown the merchandise Machine into Goldberg shirts and such. There all over the place, can't deny that, since its the Cattle in the stands that chant around with the piped in Goldberg who would be spending their money for his crap.

Oh Poor Wittle Goldberg and his Hurt Hand. Yea I know he injured his hand, but it was when 2000, and he disappeared, then reappeared as a heel, then disappeared again, reappeared and disappeared...everytime he disappeared was around the time he wasn't Suppose to be Main Eventing for the World title...Hmm Strange yeaaaa

Because of wrestling fans or promotions interests in Goldberg keep their attention on him, He has to stay in shape. Even though he is on the Proverbial Couch eaching the Cheetos because of the checks for doing nothing. I think if the WWE is so Desperate that they Forsaken their own Roster of wrestlers to try to Grab Goldberg is Still pathetic and sad. Goldberg keeps himself in shape to get these offers from everyone, WWE XWF, NWA TNA, even Pride. But you know what??? He isn't gonna go with any of them, he just stringing them. Because HE IS NOT A DAMN WRESTLER! He knows a dozen or so Wrestling Moves But he has 5 minute matches because HE Can't DO 6 Minutes.. He Knows as Much as David Arquitte (sp) did When he was in Ready to Rumble! But Oh Goldberg is the Savior of wrestling somehow because the Cattle the marks and those Wrestling news people and Promoters listen to them chatter. If Goldberg ever joined the WWE he would be a freak of nature for about a Month, then he would want out, because the WWE would want him to actually SELL MOVES and Lose once and a while...

July 18, 2002

Fuck Goldberg, I hope he never shows up in WWE. Goldberg showing up would be the one thing that would most make me want to change the channel. I'd probably still watch though, just to hope that no-talent piece of shit gets fed to every guy on the roster. And I'd love to see Hogan beat Goldberg.

July 18, 2002

Its not just thrown out there randomly. There is a difference between Undertaker, Austin, HHH, who were wrestlers before they got their gimmicks that made them where they are today, and Goldberg who basically was pulled off the street after his football career ended, gave him a Gimmick where he doesn't sell, Doesn't lose, everyone else sells like they were hit by Trucks and he get PAID for it. Learning the Basics of Wrestling and was thrown out there with Canned Goldberg chants to start this "Phenomnia" Oh please!

Because WCW was made the top name they of course would try too thrown the merchandise Machine into Goldberg shirts and such. There all over the place, can't deny that, since its the Cattle in the stands that chant around with the piped in Goldberg who would be spending their money for his crap.

Oh Poor Wittle Goldberg and his Hurt Hand. Yea I know he injured his hand, but it was when 2000, and he disappeared, then reappeared as a heel, then disappeared again, reappeared and disappeared...everytime he disappeared was around the time he wasn't Suppose to be Main Eventing for the World title...Hmm Strange yeaaaa

Because of wrestling fans or promotions interests in Goldberg keep their attention on him, He has to stay in shape. Even though he is on the Proverbial Couch eaching the Cheetos because of the checks for doing nothing. I think if the WWE is so Desperate that they Forsaken their own Roster of wrestlers to try to Grab Goldberg is Still pathetic and sad. Goldberg keeps himself in shape to get these offers from everyone, WWE XWF, NWA TNA, even Pride. But you know what??? He isn't gonna go with any of them, he just stringing them. Because HE IS NOT A DAMN WRESTLER! He knows a dozen or so Wrestling Moves But he has 5 minute matches because HE Can't DO 6 Minutes.. He Knows as Much as David Arquitte (sp) did When he was in Ready to Rumble! But Oh Goldberg is the Savior of wrestling somehow because the Cattle the marks and those Wrestling news people and Promoters listen to them chatter. If Goldberg ever joined the WWE he would be a freak of nature for about a Month, then he would want out, because the WWE would want him to actually SELL MOVES and Lose once and a while...

Wrestlers before they got their gimmick???? You do know that the only wrestler on the WWE roster is Kurt Angle, as he participated in NCAA and Olympic wresting. I dont remember Mark Callus (Undertaker) being a wrestler, though he does have talent. Also, Goldberg has more than five moves, its just that smarks love to bash the punch/kick/spear/jackhammer moves, but every wrestler has to start with the basic wrestling moves, so to be fair, everyone, from HHH to Test to Bradshaw to Benoit were wrestlers before they got their gimmicks, with Angle being the exception.

As I remember, wasn't Undertakers original gimmick was no selling moves, having other wrestlers sell his moves like being hit by trucks and was also paid for doing so? It took UT time to adjust to taking bumps, but you dont seem to want to give Goldberg the same shot. If you look at how it started with UT and Goldberg being unstoppable forces that got paid in the beginning, it seems weird for an Undertaker mark like yourself to criticize Goldberg as UT began like that in WWF. Bong, Bong, Organ Music.......

Why do you call wrestling fans cattle??? Is it because they like a wrestler you dont?? Do the ones that cheer Benoit or Jericho cattle?? Booker T's??

Undertakers??? You lost me with the cattle reference.....

You havent explained the "numerous injuries" he has had yet.......

And as for being in shape, hey, youre the one that called him fat and out of shape, but now you say he is in shape in order to impress the wrestling organizations?????? So what is your point, is he in shape or not????

Like I said, I'm not a Goldberg mark but I enjoyed his matches. Guess that makes me cattle, though maybe a "Brahma Bull"?

July 18, 2002

Its not just thrown out there randomly. There is a difference between Undertaker, Austin, HHH, who were wrestlers before they got their gimmicks that made them where they are today, and Goldberg who basically was pulled off the street after his football career ended, gave him a Gimmick where he doesn't sell, Doesn't lose, everyone else sells like they were hit by Trucks and he get PAID for it. Learning the Basics of Wrestling and was thrown out there with Canned Goldberg chants to start this "Phenomnia" Oh please!

Because WCW was made the top name they of course would try too thrown the merchandise Machine into Goldberg shirts and such. There all over the place, can't deny that, since its the Cattle in the stands that chant around with the piped in Goldberg who would be spending their money for his crap.

Oh Poor Wittle Goldberg and his Hurt Hand. Yea I know he injured his hand, but it was when 2000, and he disappeared, then reappeared as a heel, then disappeared again, reappeared and disappeared...everytime he disappeared was around the time he wasn't Suppose to be Main Eventing for the World title...Hmm Strange yeaaaa

Because of wrestling fans or promotions interests in Goldberg keep their attention on him, He has to stay in shape. Even though he is on the Proverbial Couch eaching the Cheetos because of the checks for doing nothing. I think if the WWE is so Desperate that they Forsaken their own Roster of wrestlers to try to Grab Goldberg is Still pathetic and sad. Goldberg keeps himself in shape to get these offers from everyone, WWE XWF, NWA TNA, even Pride. But you know what??? He isn't gonna go with any of them, he just stringing them. Because HE IS NOT A DAMN WRESTLER! He knows a dozen or so Wrestling Moves But he has 5 minute matches because HE Can't DO 6 Minutes.. He Knows as Much as David Arquitte (sp) did When he was in Ready to Rumble! But Oh Goldberg is the Savior of wrestling somehow because the Cattle the marks and those Wrestling news people and Promoters listen to them chatter. If Goldberg ever joined the WWE he would be a freak of nature for about a Month, then he would want out, because the WWE would want him to actually SELL MOVES and Lose once and a while...

Wrestlers before they got their gimmick???? You do know that the only wrestler on the WWE roster is Kurt Angle, as he participated in NCAA and Olympic wresting. I dont remember Mark Callus (Undertaker) being a wrestler, though he does have talent. Also, Goldberg has more than five moves, its just that smarks love to bash the punch/kick/spear/jackhammer moves, but every wrestler has to start with the basic wrestling moves, so to be fair, everyone, from HHH to Test to Bradshaw to Benoit were wrestlers before they got their gimmicks, with Angle being the exception.

As I remember, wasn't Undertakers original gimmick was no selling moves, having other wrestlers sell his moves like being hit by trucks and was also paid for doing so? It took UT time to adjust to taking bumps, but you dont seem to want to give Goldberg the same shot. If you look at how it started with UT and Goldberg being unstoppable forces that got paid in the beginning, it seems weird for an Undertaker mark like yourself to criticize Goldberg as UT began like that in WWF. Bong, Bong, Organ Music.......

Why do you call wrestling fans cattle??? Is it because they like a wrestler you dont?? Do the ones that cheer Benoit or Jericho cattle?? Booker T's??

Undertakers??? You lost me with the cattle reference.....

You havent explained the "numerous injuries" he has had yet.......

And as for being in shape, hey, youre the one that called him fat and out of shape, but now you say he is in shape in order to impress the wrestling organizations?????? So what is your point, is he in shape or not????

Like I said, I'm not a Goldberg mark but I enjoyed his matches. Guess that makes me cattle, though maybe a "Brahma Bull"?

LETS try to explain this AGAIN...

What I mean that people like Undertaker HHH Austin were wrestlers before they were Renoun for these gimmicks. They were Wrestlers, they didn't Appear via Osmosis. These men started out years before paying their dues in independant feds to the Semi Big Feds

Example, Undertaker, Mark Calloway, Was working in USWA and WCW before He became the Undertaker.

HHH worked for a Small Indi fed in Conn, before he was hired by WCW and WWF

Austin Indi's in Texas and WCW ECW then WWF

Goldberg....Came out of No where, had no experience when he first appeared on national TV. I know he did a few dark matches where he jobbed but that was during that Short Power plant training Period. Goldberg was shot right up to the Top in a Short period of time for someone Who hasn't wrestled for years or really cared about the business Beyond his paychecks and self exposure.

Next on your little rant against my Rant

Undertaker's No selling Was Part of his Gimmick and there was a Particular storyline for it which MADE his character. even though admittingly now that his character is more Living and Human he sells about the same as the Sandman now. Goldberg no sells for no apparent reason, maybe he doesn't know how. The most dramatic I seen Goldberg sell was Shake his head a few times like he was seeing double. And Even when the Undertaker didn't sell, in a sense he did put over his opponents because Undertaker would bounce away from moves before his demonic recover and Zombie sit up.

I Don't want to give Goldberg the same shot because He doesn't want to be a wrestler enough TO LEARN! Goldberg had from 1998 to 2000 to improve. Even Undertaker gets pin clean, Goldberg.... He has to be Tazared... Or 3 on 1 or some other dramatic Screwjob circumstance for his character to lose. That might not all be his fault because of the Dipsticks in the creative and Booking departments in the WCW. Each man improves after matches, weeks months years, wrestlers always go back to the gym, back to training, asides staying in condition but go for improvement. Goldberg never was out in the ring long enough for him to learn any mistakes. Lets see Powerspots Powerspots, Some feeble Submission attempt that Schivone and Teney touts Goldberg at being a EXPERT Submissionist, Then Goldberg takes a minute out of his busy match to take the token defenses from the opponents, then Goldberg comes back Spear and Malenko's Jackhammer.

Next on the Hit parade.

The Cattle are the Marks, they are the ones who chant Rocky Rocky, Who follow the lead of the pipe in Goldberg chants and go along with it. THAT feel the need to go into Internet channels with catch phrases. These are the people who were normal independant thinkers going in, but once in, they are a Mob of people who Cheers and boos to follow the crowd. Mass hysteria.

Next...

The Injury I mention is what you mention was the Hand injury he suffered when he went after the nWo 2000 members and he cracked his hand on the windshield. Now think here, he gets this injury, afterwards he leaves.. Then he comes back during the On Camera Vince Russo period being a Heel, that the Fans too programed to cheer for goldberg couldn't get. then Goldberg disappeared when his Angle fizzled he Didnt appear later till he gave Bret the Concussion. Disappeared again, reappeared a short period of time then basically left and never came back. I believe at the time Goldberg had the star power to get the same usual suspect fans interested in the WCW when it was Sinking. But. Goldberg didn't show. Last 6 months of the WCW life, Goldberg was gone... Where was he? If it wasn't that Pesky Injury he suffered nearly 2 years ago then what was it? He didn't feel like coming to work But thats ok BECAUSE he's Goldberg???

See... I don't Just ramble on and Don't back it up! Soo What you want a Piece of me huh!

(Breaks a Beer Bottle and threatens ta gut ya!) J/K

July 18, 2002

I agree, fuck Bill Goldberg.

They don't need him and if they had him it wouldn't solve anything.

The booking would still be crap, his angle would be crap.

He couldn't wrestle back then.

How is going to wrestle now?

:huh:

July 18, 2002

Plus the guy is notorious for getting injured, and I heard he has hardly worked out a lick in over a year. So, likely fat, lazy, out of condition, and bound to reinjure himself within the first month he comes back. Hey...wait a minute--that sounds familar... (the guy who first beat him?).

You wanted proof of you saying he was fat. There you have it. I'll discuss the rest of your rant later but considering that you know for a fact that Goldberg has not learned or practiced any more moves since leaving WCW (how do you know?) are you the fan that he had to put a restraining order on???? Have you been stalking him daily???? You must have if you know he hasnt improved since then......

By the way stop with the challenges, its immature for a high schooler.....

July 18, 2002

Plus the guy is notorious for getting injured, and I heard he has hardly worked out a lick in over a year. So, likely fat, lazy, out of condition, and bound to reinjure himself within the first month he comes back. Hey...wait a minute--that sounds familar... (the guy who first beat him?).

You wanted proof of you saying he was fat. There you have it. I'll discuss the rest of your rant later but considering that you know for a fact that Goldberg has not learned or practiced any more moves since leaving WCW (how do you know?) are you the fan that he had to put a restraining order on???? Have you been stalking him daily???? You must have if you know he hasnt improved since then......

By the way stop with the challenges, its immature for a high schooler.....

Read The Quote's Author thats from AndrewTS. Im Trivia247, SOOOO I didn't SAY he was Fat or out of Shape, I didn't even begin that whole injury crap. Sooo Apologies For Bearing false Witness.

And How do you even Know he has learned anything Since leaving WCW? He Made No Visible Effort at all in going back to Any Wrestling gym or training, or doing Anything Beyond just staying in shape, you don't have to be a Stalker to know wheither he has been active or not. From the Internet to Physical Wrestling or Sports Magazines would sooner or later catch wind if Goldberg was still training as a Wrestler. If Goldberg had any Aspirations of being a true wrestler, he would have been working the indi circuits just to keep himself from being rusty for those impending Offers. The Fact remains in All Actuality he isn't training as a Wrestler because he doesn't Want to be a wrestler.

And BY THE WAY, I Was Fucking Kidding about the Challenge crap I Said J/K Because Iwanted to Break the tension that apparently was building up from these little Back and forth replies about the GOD OF MAN GOLDBERG! Evidently my attempt to be funny didn't make that impact. and Im 23 youngin so this is all Comical to me.

July 18, 2002

The Injury I mention is what you mention was the Hand injury he suffered when he went after the nWo 2000 members and he cracked his hand on the windshield. Now think here, he gets this injury, afterwards he leaves.. Then he comes back during the On Camera Vince Russo period being a Heel, that the Fans too programed to cheer for goldberg couldn't get. then Goldberg disappeared when his Angle fizzled he Didnt appear later till he gave Bret the Concussion. Disappeared again, reappeared a short period of time then basically left and never came back. I believe at the time Goldberg had the star power to get the same usual suspect fans interested in the WCW when it was Sinking. But. Goldberg didn't show. Last 6 months of the WCW life, Goldberg was gone... Where was he? If it wasn't that Pesky Injury he suffered nearly 2 years ago then what was it? He didn't feel like coming to work But thats ok BECAUSE he's Goldberg???

Dude, your timeline is all wrong. Goldberg injured Bret hart at Starrcade 1999, about two weeks after the nWo 2000 angle started. Then, in Janurary or Feburary of 2000, Goldberg punched out the wrong window on Thunder, and injured his hand. He came back as heel Goldberg has Russo's "big surprise". When fans shat all over it, Russo did the whole "Keep the streak alive or you are fired" angle, which culminated in 2001, when Goldberg jobbed to Lugar and Bagwell, never to be seen again.

July 18, 2002

The Injury I mention is what you mention was the Hand injury he suffered when he went after the nWo 2000 members and he cracked his hand on the windshield. Now think here, he gets this injury, afterwards he leaves.. Then he comes back during the On Camera Vince Russo period being a Heel, that the Fans too programed to cheer for goldberg couldn't get. then Goldberg disappeared when his Angle fizzled he Didnt appear later till he gave Bret the Concussion. Disappeared again, reappeared a short period of time then basically left and never came back. I believe at the time Goldberg had the star power to get the same usual suspect fans interested in the WCW when it was Sinking. But. Goldberg didn't show. Last 6 months of the WCW life, Goldberg was gone... Where was he? If it wasn't that Pesky Injury he suffered nearly 2 years ago then what was it? He didn't feel like coming to work But thats ok BECAUSE he's Goldberg???

Dude, your timeline is all wrong. Goldberg injured Bret hart at Starrcade 1999, about two weeks after the nWo 2000 angle started. Then, in Janurary or Feburary of 2000, Goldberg punched out the wrong window on Thunder, and injured his hand. He came back as heel Goldberg has Russo's "big surprise". When fans shat all over it, Russo did the whole "Keep the streak alive or you are fired" angle, which culminated in 2001, when Goldberg jobbed to Lugar and Bagwell, never to be seen again.

Thanks for the Clarification

I knew the events but forgot which order they were in. Then Goldberg concussing Bret was around the time of Spring break show when Goldberg speared Bret and Bret was wearing that metal plate on his clothes and knocked Goldberg out LOL.

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July 18, 2002

Goldberg has done nothing to any of you, and you haven't seen him around nor do you know as much as you think you do about the guy. Judging him is pointless.

Goldberg, from what I saw has a Rock - like ability in the ring. His performance is always kind of up-beat, and although he normally uses the same basic set of moves, he does them pretty well and if he wants to, he pulls out other submissions or moves from his arsenal.

Goldberg came in as a big guy named Bill Goldberg. The guy was huge, had a good look, and wasn't too horrible in the ring. He started low on the card and moved up. US Title, then world.

Just like Test. You can read all of Test's history, he started out in a WWE ring. Just like Paul Wight. His first match was pinning Hulk Hogan for the Title.

Goldberg's ego got pretty big from beng pushed so hard like that. Just like Wight's. Wight learned the hard way that just because you have the physical tools, or a god-given natural look, you don't have to be given shit. His credibility sucks so bad right now, I don't think he can ever come back and Main event. Why can't that happen to Goldberg if he sucks in the ring and acts un-motivated? Why do you just assume he will always be so highly regrded even though he is not Vince's creation and many in the locker room have animosity towards him already. The guy si not on good terms with HHH as it is, think about that!

Goldberg disappeared and reappeared a lot and did little or nothing in the Russo era. So did STING. The flagship of the company! No one really had a good taste for Russo's ideas and the product was becoming exactly what most of those wrestlers didn't want to be involved in. Russo alienated them from what they were in WCW for and not in the WWF.

Goldberg tried to add a little more holy shit feeling to the limo spot backstage with the nWo and really hurt his hand. Other than that, the guy never was really injured.

Goldberg put Bret Hart out. I am indifferent towards him for that, but it happens. Wrestlers admittingly work stiff in big matches, and shit happens. Hart was in his 40's deteriorating, injury prone and on his last leg. Goldberg sealed his wrestling fate. Owen paralyzed Steve Austin in an accident. Austin was in his prime and was able to come back. You think if Austin took that exact piledriver today he'd finish the match? No. It was unfortunate, but so was Angle breaking Bob Holly's arm, Saturn tearing a muscle in Tazz's arm, and Holly dropkicking DDP at the wrong time. Unfortunate accidents that hurt those guy's respective careers.

Fact is, Goldberg CAN bring in numbers, Goldberg is an incredibly over face and a big name WWE can use who is not too old and can help carry the company in its time of need with the abscense of Austin, Rock and others.

Vince and management CAN humble Goldberg just like they did Show. It will probably happen. The monster push will not last forever and Goldberg IS NOT Vince's own creation, therefore he will have to fight harder.

He has a lot to prove, and he should not be totally hated on by you people whilst Brock Lesnar gets a World Title shot despite being in the company for 3 or 4 months, Rock walks right back into a title after filming movies and not working night in and night out like Angle, Taker, RVD, etc.

Goldberg deserves a chance because whether or not WCW spent its last dollar trying to get him over, he got over. He can be used, if he wants to wrestle for the WWE. Bottom line.

July 18, 2002

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