Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Ok, now I’m really pissed off. 17 YEARS TO THE FUCKING DAY THEY SET UP WRESTLEMANIA 1 WITH HULK HOGAN, THEY DO IT AGAIN! On Monday the 18th, in 1985, MTV aired "War to Settle the Score", which set up Wrestlemania 1! 17 YEARS TO THE DAY, HOGAN IS ANNOUNCED AS HEADLINEING WRESTLEMANIA 18! Now am I alone here in thinking bullshit. Hogan is for starters, way to old. He couldn’t carry a match back then, he couldn’t in WCW, and something tells me he can’t now. The WWF in their infinite lack of wisdom is expecting me to buy Hogan as a credible main event. Umm..hello, we didn’t buy him main eventing in WCW, and that’s why they lost a ton of money. Am I alone by feeling my intelligence is being mocked? Does anyone really thing Hogan is STILL credible as being main event at Wrestlemania, 17 years after the first one. Sure he is a big name, but is he really worthy of taking the spot reserved for the WWF title? Which was what every main even at Wrestlemania has been about. And something tells me Hogan isn’t high on the WWF’s list for title holder. So why are they giving him main event…I can’t figure it out when every time he main evented in the last few years he sucked ass. Anyone else remember Hogan and Rodman. Now look at Hogan's track record with younger guys, he did shit for them. Do you really think he's gonna help the Rock get over after putting down just about everyone else. If Hogan goes over Rock, which I wouldn’t put past Hogan trying to convince Vince to let him, you can kiss the wwf good-bye. Because that means he’s back in control. He’ll do exactly what he wants and no one will stop him. At which point the locker room needs to strike. Hogan is a manipulator, and track record shows he shouldn’t be trusted with control. If Hogan isn't 100% squashed at Wrestlemania, I don't think the WWF can get me back. Hogan is damn near 50 and I'm supposed to believe that a man roughly 20 years younger can't completely whip his ass, please don't insult me. And lets look at something else, who in the WWF has a win over Hogan. Excluding the nWo, Undertaker. (I'm not sure if Flair did, and if he did, please for give me for forgetting) THAT IS FUCKING IT. Who thinks that’s really gonna change? Hogan has never shown he is willing to make anyone but himself look better. Secondly the whole attack on the rock, reminds me way too much of Austin dumping HHH in the car. And since we didn't see the rock in the ambulance, I don't know, I felt like, MAYBE HE REALLY WASN'T IN IT! And since we kind of saw inside it and it was, well, EMPTY!, my initial doubt could be confirmed. (That cut to Hogan in the truck was just so bad from a visual standpoint) A gang beating by the nWo in the ring was fine, but this was dumb. I’m almost surprised they didn’t have rock come down and be ok. Which then would have forced me to go and kill VKM with my own hands. I'm now not gonna watch RAW or Smackdown or any other WWF programming. I've been insulted too much. I'm on a one-man boycott if need be, but the WWF is not getting my viewing rating. Hasn't the WWF learned from its own mistakes, Hogan is doing EXACTLY what he did when he came to WCW, holding people down and taking the main even hostage. And you know who I feel the most sympathy for, Chris Jericho. Jericho, FINALLY got his shot, finally proved he was main event status, he broke the glass ceiling...and then Hogan smashed it right on his face, after he's beaten the WWF's 2 biggest stars, Austin and Rock. Wrestlemanina would have been Y2J's crowning jewel as a champion, even if it was heel in his home country and lost, but he would have headlined and I'm sure he would have been happy as a pig in shit, but now he gets bumped down again...and by...HOGAN! The wwf has mishandled Jericho to no end, he's the champion, remember when that ment you headlined when you wrestled. Having Jericho wrestling mid card on raw hurts him and the WWF title itself. The wwf is now a sinking ship, and this rat is getting off the boat. The Hogan show is back on TV and I can't stand it. I'm sick of the WWF living on its revisionist history and expecting me and everyone else just to play along. Vince said he didn’t want to insult the fan's intelligence, well so far he's been doing a bad job. I'll read the reports, but my viewing is done until I feel the show has recovered. I'll be very happy if I'm wrong by the way, cause I'd at least like to be able to say to my kids one day, "That guy sucks, he doesn't even now what a 450 splash is." And then have them look at me like "WHOA" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest suckfreecomix Report post Posted February 19, 2002 It bothers me that a guy who started wrestling before I was born is still around. Oh well...he has to die sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Good points all around. I think Rock being injured for his match with Hogan will give the excuse that Rock can't whuuupppp that ass. Storyline wise Rock should be pretty vulnerable to Hogan for WrestleMania. However, why don't I see people ripping on Ric Flair who IS OLDER than Hogan? You can say Flair/Taker is stealing the spotlight from Jericho as well because of their star power. In 1989 Ric Flair was older than Hogan is now what the hell does that say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest suckfreecomix Report post Posted February 19, 2002 It bothers me that Flair still wrestles too...I feel he has been tarnishing his name for years. That being said...Flair vs. Taker won't be the Main Event. So there is a little difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted February 19, 2002 NO i cant say Flair/UT is stealing the spot light because did you hear that either guy wanted main event...NO! That is what seperates Flair from Hogan, he has class, and could wrestle a broom stick o a great match. He didnt come to the WWF and say, give me main event, Hogan has. UT/Flair will not be the big event, Hogan wants Rock/Hogan last show of the night. That makes me wanna puke. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HOGAN DESERVES A WIN! Sides Flair can STILL DELIVER, see RR2002 for proof. Hogan hasn't hasnt deliverd since...hell my pizza boy has more delivery then he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Justin T Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Ermm... 13 years ago? WTF? So if Hogan is 48 right now (which he is) Ric Flair must be 61? Right... I think that says you got your facts mixed up... or I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Flair was around 40 in 1989, because that was supposedly when he hit his prime (though I could argue differently). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest suckfreecomix Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Flair turns 53 in 6 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted February 19, 2002 <<Secondly the whole attack on the rock, reminds me way too much of Austin dumping HHH in the car. And since we didn't see the rock in the ambulance, I don't know, I felt like, MAYBE HE REALLY WASN'T IN IT! And since we kind of saw inside it and it was, well, EMPTY!, my initial doubt could be confirmed. (That cut to Hogan in the truck was just so bad from a visual standpoint) A gang beating by the nWo in the ring was fine, but this was dumb.>> That's such an asinine comment to make. I mean, duh. Like anyone actually thought that the WWF was going to sacrifice The Rock and keep him in the ambulance just to preserve realism. Wrestling is all about suspension of disbelief. I mean, we KNOW that Rock wasn't in the ambulance. But we're supposed to assume that he was. Much like we KNOW that the wrestlers don't actually want to hurt each other, but the entire basis of professional wrestling is about acting under the assumption that they do. People here are really searching frantically for something to complain about, and it's fucking obnoxious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Wrestling is about suspension of disbelief, but when the bookers cross the line they lose the audience. It is the same for movies. That line was crossed on Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Wrestling is about suspension of disbelief, but when the bookers cross the line they lose the audience. It is the same for movies. That line was crossed on Monday. How so? I guess I can understand how it might be slightly implausible for Rock to recover from a car accident like that in four weeks, but...still. That's where the suspension of disbelief comes in. And, frankly, I don't think the vast majority of the audience is going to consider the medical improbability of the Rock's swift recovery. In most instances similar to this, I would completely agree with you. But I really felt that last night was well-executed, and will go a long way towards giving the WWF the vitality they've been utterly lacking for the better part of a year now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the BURNHAM Report post Posted February 19, 2002 plus there are dual main events in wm history...wm 8 jumps to mind pretty quick...so they have two events, rock-hogan first and then jericho-HHH/Angle/Whoever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 19, 2002 I think Hogan going over makes sense if they're doing a split immediately. Because then Flair realizes the nWo have taken out the big gun, he splits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackjack4x Report post Posted February 19, 2002 I think we'll get something like WM 8, except Jericho/HHH won't be so far down the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest suckfreecomix Report post Posted February 19, 2002 I figure it this way: If HHH is winning the match will be last. If Jericho wins...which I think has a good chance...It goes before Hogan vs. Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted February 19, 2002 It was the dumbest segment since Triple H at Survivor Series 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mountie Report post Posted February 19, 2002 I’d rather watch Hogan at WrestleMania than any of today’s ‘superstars’. Hulk Rules! Watcha gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted February 19, 2002 If you didnt see inside the ambulance, it might have been more convincing. Esp since the nWo was like "wow we hurt him bad." But still, the reality of the thing is, if you attack someone with a semi in real life you go to jail, how you can suspend disbelif with that, I dont know. Its a criminal charge of attempted vechilular homicide to manslaughter 1. If thats the WWF's idea of entertainment, SCREW THEM, and if you know someone who has been killed in a car accident you should feel the same way. When a vechlie hits another one, and someones inside, its hard to dispend the belief someone may die. I dont mind having to dispend my belief, sparingly, but this was way to over the top. They atleast could have put a dummy in the ambulance or something...and for the record as a guy whos been to a lot of car accidents, the Rock who had bruises, should have been a hell of a lot worse looking. Even if the semi was slow, that much mass making an impact on a guy who isn't strapped down to the floor would send him flying around like a rag doll. Multiple cuts and brusies are the minimum amount of damage possible. BTW Mountie, FUCK AND YOU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 19, 2002 Remember that it doesn't matter what we think. As long as Rock/Hogan is good for business, which it will be, then we have no choice but to sit back and enjoy it. I'm going to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
