Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 19, 2002 I am by no means a fan of Shaq, but I'll go out and say that Yao Ming is going to be the next George Meuresan (sp?) and Shawn Bradley. A tall motherfucker who sucks and is going to get his ass handed to him by the better players in the league. Shaq is going to run all over this lanky bastard and kill his career dead. Hell , I'm telling you Hakeem will whoop this chump's ass inside just fine and show Houston that they'll never find another dream. Ewing might even take this guy to school. He doesn't have a chance. All hype, all hype I tell you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Those guys could never shoot from the outside though. The bottom line is that, like the WWE, the NBA has a big man fetish, so you'll always see Hakeem's picked over the MJ's, and the Yao Ming's picked ahead of the Jay Williamses or whoever the breakout rookie is this year. But you're right about Ming getting schooled. Mind you, if Houston's smart they'll have him come in off the bench for a year or two. At the same time, I'd like to see Vince dunk over him on November 2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 19, 2002 That would rule. The guy is obviously very talented and that is why he has been scouted so hard and hyped but... If you throw him out there with the big dogs in a starting position and hope Houston is going to the mid-round playoffs becase this guy is just going to do it all, you're an idiot. He will be eaten alive. Bench it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Those guys could never shoot from the outside though. While Yao Ming can hit the outside jay, it's going to be interesting to see if he can consistently nail it through an entire game, after literally taking a beating in the post guarding guys like Shaq. People will drive on him like a freeway - he'll have to get up (assuming he hasn't been BY GAWD broken in half) and hobble down the court to shoot a three, likely taking punishment from the opposition while he does it. I just don't think he's got the meat to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 21, 2002 Those guys could never shoot from the outside though. The bottom line is that, like the WWE, the NBA has a big man fetish, so you'll always see Hakeem's picked over the MJ's, and the Yao Ming's picked ahead of the Jay Williamses or whoever the breakout rookie is this year. But you're right about Ming getting schooled. Mind you, if Houston's smart they'll have him come in off the bench for a year or two. At the same time, I'd like to see Vince dunk over him on November 2... Haeem over Jordan was not that bad of Pick. The got a hall of famer instead of Jordan, another hall of famer. Now if you said Sam Bowie's over Jordan, then thats a better analogy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 21, 2002 And Houston did get a few NBA titles out of the deal. Granted it took them a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted July 21, 2002 And, of course, those two titles came during the first Michael Jordan exodus. Can't forget that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted July 21, 2002 A title is a title. Just because Mikey was off missing curveballs in double A doesn't detract from Hakeem's accomplishment. It still takes a lot to win a championship. Tell David Robinson that his ring means less because he won it in a strike-shortened season. While you may have a point, it doesn't mean that he isn't going to treasure it any less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted July 21, 2002 he needs to seriously beef up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted July 22, 2002 It's obvious that Jay Williams, Caron Butler, and a handful of other guys (Dunleavy, Wagner, maybe even Wilcox) will turn out to be better pros than Yao Ming. But Houston's decision wasn't all about basketball. Yao will -- until he's exposed as shitty -- bring in a lot of dollars. In Japan, the Seattle Mariners are by far the most popular team. A ton of Mariners stuff sells in Japan, and that's because of Ichiro. The same thing will happen with the Rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 22, 2002 Why would a chinese player appeal so greatly to the Japanese fan? Houston drafted Yao Ming because he's got potential, and because they needed a center. Obviously he's got some skill, after all, why would we know more than the Houston Rockets about Yao Ming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted July 22, 2002 >In Japan, the Seattle Mariners are by far the most popular team. A ton of Mariners stuff sells in Japan, and that's because of Ichiro. The thing is that Ichiro was already fairly popular in Japan, as they love their baseball. I'm not sure how popular hoops is in China though. >Why would a chinese player appeal so greatly to the Japanese fan? I'm pretty sure he meant Chinese fans. Anyways, my point about the Hakeem/MJ comparison is this: even if the guard is a sure lock for the Hall of Fame, the potentially great center will be picked first, since there is a lack of great centers in the NBA. Ming has the POTENTIAL to be a great center, if Houston does the right thing in terms of letting the guy develop. If they screw it up, then he'll be another Shawn Bradley and a footnote in NBA history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted July 24, 2002 Mark my words, Yao Ming is going to be the biggest bust in NBA history, WORSE than Shawn Bradley, and whatever team drafts him, after going through all the trouble and bullshit with the Chinese gov't, will have some serious egg on its face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 24, 2002 From a pure Finacial viewpoint, Yao Ming was huge and neccesary pick. China is an untapped market and it would expand the Houston Rocket fanbase. From a Playing viewpoint, It's a stinker. If Yao Ming slaps muscle on him and has his head unflatened, something good will come out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 24, 2002 Tell David Robinson that his ring means less because he won it in a strike-shortened season. While you may have a point, it doesn't mean that he isn't going to treasure it any less. What if you told him that it means less because he's a pussy? I don't think Yao Ming is going to be a superstar. Perhaps he will be a good player, but I don't see him being an All-Star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 24, 2002 He'd kick your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 24, 2002 Yeah, call David Robinson a pussy all you want, he would beat the living shit out of you talking that. Everyone keeps saying that the Rockets should have not take Ming, but who where they going to take. They are stockpiled at the PF, they have Steve Fransis at the point, Cuttino Mobley at the 2 and all the needed whas a Small FOrward or a Center...are you saying they should have taken Dunlevy at the 1st pick... I'm Sorry, but I will take a 7'6 guy wiwh a jumper over Dunlevey at the first pick. And please tell me, how in the living fluck was anyone going to beat those 2 Houston teams. Akheem was god those years(he would have averaged like 80 on the Bulls Centers) and the Rockets were setting records for 3 pointers in games (Kenny Smith, Robert Horry, Sam Cassell and Vernon Maxwell were hot for most of the playoffs). The next year when they had drexler, they were down right amazing in the playoffs and Olajawon once again was god. Love the Bulls all you want, I don't think that the Chicago bulls, would have taken the Rockets those 2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MDH257 Report post Posted July 24, 2002 It's going to be years before we'll know if Yao Ming is the biggest bust of all time, so I think it's a little early to be making that statement. Altough, for the record, I don't think they should have drafted him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 24, 2002 I agree Ripper, the Rockets SO needed him. There wasn't another pick as suitable for THEM as Ming. But I'm arguing that the guy will be no star because there have been too many before him fall with the same accolades. Although by default he's better than the Net's center so he's not too bad off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 24, 2002 HEY!!! Todd Mcullah is the MO-Fruckin man!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 24, 2002 Whoops, that slipped out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted July 24, 2002 I don't think Yao will guard Shaq and other big men the whole game. He will take advantage of the zone D and come in and swat peoples shots while guys like Kenny Thomas and Mo Taylor will get stuck guarding in the low post (if only Mo Taylor could rebound worth a lick). He'll still get beaten up, but maybe not as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 24, 2002 If the Rockets are so stacked, why did they have the number one pick in the lottery? It's one thing to have a lot of PFs, it's another thing to have PFs who can play. David Robinson is still a pussy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 25, 2002 If the Rockets are so stacked, why did they have the number one pick in the lottery? It's one thing to have a lot of PFs, it's another thing to have PFs who can play. David Robinson is still a pussy. Kenny Thomas, Mo Taylor...and Calvin Cato i do believe is 3 PFs...that is enough. They were weak at the Center position. What does winning the lottery have to do with anything. And David Robinson is a MVP winning, NBA championship having, Scoring Title winning, Defensive player of the year winning, Rookie of the Year winning, hall of fame shoe in...call him a pussy all you like...He owned Shaqs ass until he started getting old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted July 25, 2002 If you don't think Robinson is soft, I can't respect your basketball opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 25, 2002 When you can point to me a series where Robinson showed "softness" let me know. Everyone acts like he was suppose to be getting rings out the ass, but bottom line, everytime the Spurs lost in the playoffs when Robison was the focal point, he lost to the better team. Olajawan was better than him and so were the rockets, there was no way you could expect them to win. Before the Season ending knee injury, no one...NO ONE could stop David Robinson on the offensive end. Your best bet was to try and get him in foul trouble (like smaller teams like the SUns, and Jazz would do) or out quick him(Rockets). Believe the Commentators and SHaq all you want to, Shaquille Oneil was David Robinsons BITCH until that injury and he hasn't really played as well as he did before. Now Shaq talks crap about him...Its like when Chuck Person would be talking shit to a near retirement, broken down Larry Bird like he was a better player. Robinson is the man that carried the Spurs on his back for years and it is pretty pathetic that he doesn't get the respect that he derserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 25, 2002 Kenny Thomas, Mo Taylor...and Calvin Cato i do believe is 3 PFs...that is enough. They were weak at the Center position. What does winning the lottery have to do with anything. Like I said, it's one thing to have 3 power forwards, it's another thing to have three who can play. The Knicks have a bunch of guards, but how many of them are good? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the lottery is not where the elite teams find themselves. The year that David Robinson won the MVP, his team had the best record in the NBA, and his team tried to do everything they could to have Robinson win the trophy. Olajuwon made the Admiral his bitch when they met in the playoffs. I have images of David Robinson being faked out of his shoes forever engraved in my memory. If you need a series where Robinson has showed softness, look at every series that they have been eliminated in. The Spurs had the Admiral and the league MVP, but they couldn't hold onto a lead against the Lakers in the fourth quarter. Shaq always has talked about David Robinson. Years ago, people would ask his opinion of David Robinson, and Shaq would say that he didn't rate centers. but he would always have great things to say about Olajuwon. The Spurs won their championship, but it should have an asterisk next to it because it was during the lockout season. How many players came back looking like blimps that year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 25, 2002 Anybody want to count the centers that Akeem didn't make look like a fool in that year(or the year after that). He was the best center in the game. David had amazing series that year, the Rockets just had more players making a impact than the Spurs only getting output from from Robison on all the offense and Rodman on the boards. The Spurs had a run down Robinson and a league MVP, get it right. Might I got back to a few years back with a younger robinson and the Lakers getting swept. Robinson is WELL out of his prime but a few years back, he was still the man. Look at before the year he lost and after and you will see his numbers dip because of the injury. Every series I ever saw the spurs lost, I have yet to see one when you can say Robison didn't do his part to make them win. He plays huge in the season and even bigger in the playoffs...of course if you think Carl Herra and Negele Knight and Willie Anderson were the reason they were succeding, you have got to be kidding yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted July 25, 2002 Robinson is the guy who would look visibly frightened when Greg Poppovich would diagram plays for him to take the shot at the end of games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 25, 2002 Do you have any proof on that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
