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Guest Chuck Woolery

Man, that's mostly bullshit.

 

And if he does job, it doesn't count. For example, Triple H jobbed the I.C. belt to Jeff Hardy, but it doesn't count, because Triple H is holding Jeff Hardy down.

 

Uh, no, that doesn't count because Triple H not only got the job returned, but got a squash three days later on Raw/Smackdown/whichever show it was.

 

So let's say that HHH points out that having John Cena slap Vince would make Hulk Hogan look like a pansy and destroy an upcoming PPV match between Hogan and Vince. Normally, saving an angle would be a GOOD thing, right? But not if it's HHH. If it's Hunter, then it's Evil.

 

...How in the hell is that saving an angle? And how does having John Cena slap Vince McMahon make Hulk Hogan look like a pansy? And how does Cena slapping Vince ruin a Hogan/Vince confrontation? Hogan and Vince will have a lot more than just a slap to feud over to a PPV. Cena's slap was to help get him over as an energetic face.

 

Forget the fact that Foley was a fat Jobber with a skill for falling off things. Forget that Foley had a LOT of matches with a LOT of guys, and none of them became Triple H.

 

Foley was a fat jobber with a skill for falling off things. Foley did have a lot of matches with a lot of guys. But Foley's feud with Triple H was full of emotion, and that's how he got Triple H over. An emotional feud with Foley's career at stake.

 

Don't try and explain what this might mean. Just say things like "What else do you expect from a friend of KEVIN NASH."

 

With the exception of a moron, nobody's ever said that, but if they did, it's because Nash is notorious for playing politics to keep himself over. Simple as that.

 

This is the most important rule of all- never, under ANY circumstances, mention anything that actually occurs inside the ring.

 

All of us mention what goes on in the ring because it sucks. But if we didn't, it'd because it was so god-awful atrocious it's not worthy of mention.

 

Bottom line? This guy is too obsessed with his HHHLoving glow that he can't see it that way.

 

- Mike Van Siclen.

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Guest 4Life

Obviously he's a "busy" man so he already wrote this garbage for next week's edition which was uncovered by clicking on "archives". What a dumbass.

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Guest Chuck Woolery

Bwahah... my summer not keeping track of dates bore me to not realize that. Stupid me, but stupider Kyle Maxwell. May you burn.

 

- Mike Van Siclen.

Tommy Lee: Writing The Anthem of WWE Cruiserweights

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Guest hockeytown9321

Foley let HHH beat him clean, 3 straight PPV's, in the matches Mick was known for. That is why he got over. If HHH let Angle beat him 3 months in a row, clean, then he would be a big time main eventer too. There is a difference between losing and putting someone over.

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Guest Dangerous A

I won't take anything away from Foley doing what he did for HHH.

 

But Foley did that because he was on the way out and that was the way he chose to go out. Putting over HHH. Now if HHH was going to be retiring soon, then we can start talking about HHH losing clean to whoever. But people fail to realize that HHH isn't retiring any time soon. If Foley wasn't retiring, I can almost guarantee you he would've beat HHH at either No Way Out or WM2000.

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Guest El Psycho Diablo

He's bashing anti-HHH people, and he gets heat around here. What a suprise..

 

Anyway, some of these "Reports say HHH _____" remind me of the mythical GameFAQ's press conferences that only one person hears of.

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Guest the pinjockey

So Foley is just a fat jobber who falls off things. Yeah he sure does suck here is a guy who went through intense pain through sick bumps to get his opponents over wow what a piece of shit it is a good thing he is gone and there are no more people like him. Someone who wrestled guys like Van Hammer when no one wanted to just cause he thought it would be a challenge and he thought he could help make him bigger booo sir you are an asshole how dare you try to help anyone out.

 

And here you go something that actually occurs inside the ring..hmm...lemme think. Ok here we go HHH has sucked in the ring ever since the comeback. Oh wait I am actually showing a reason I have to stop that. His best match was a mediocre HIAC and a less than mediocre WM main event both with a man who brought Hogan to a watchable match. I wonder who the weak link was. Anyone who argues that HHH has been good in the ring since the comeback must just like arguing with HHHaters because I have not seen anything close to good and I have not seen many other people with a view that differs from mine. Even my casual fan friends from work see that he is awful and boring.

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Guest chirs3

1-Remember, if something is Bad, Triple H caused it. If something is Good, Triple H had nothing to do with it.

For example: Triple H is responsible for Jericho being a short, marginally talented perennial midcarder. However, Triple H is NOT responsible for Jericho being the first ever Unified World Heavyweight Champion. Triple H is responsible for Jeff Hardy being a creepy Raver with no Mic skills. Triple H is NOT responsible for Jeff Hardy being the world's first 89 lb I.C. Champion.

 

-----> Marginally talented perennial midcarder, who was incredibly over as a heel in his fued with The Rock, consistently pulls out good matches with whoever he's booked against... No, I'm not giving Triple H credit for that.

 

2-Keep in mind that HHH never, ever Jobs.

And if he does job, it doesn't count. For example, Triple H jobbed the I.C. belt to Jeff Hardy, but it doesn't count, because Triple H is holding Jeff Hardy down.

 

-----> It doesn't count because he squashed the fuck out of Hardy three days later.

 

3-Lie.

That's right, just outright lie. Say things like "Reports say…" but then never give a source for your magical "report".

 

-----> I can't remember the last time I've seen anyone say "I have reports, I have sources that say".

 

4-Remember, everything HHH does is Evil.

Even if he's right. So let's say that HHH points out that having John Cena slap Vince would make Hulk Hogan look like a pansy and destroy an upcoming PPV match between Hogan and Vince. Normally, saving an angle would be a GOOD thing, right? But not if it's HHH. If it's Hunter, then it's Evil.

 

-----> Saving an angle that gets Cena over more (as much as I'm against that, at the moment) and doesn't involve Triple H in any way, shape, or form...

 

5-Claim that Foley "Made" Triple H.

Forget the fact that Foley was a fat Jobber with a skill for falling off things. Forget that Foley had a LOT of matches with a LOT of guys, and none of them became Triple H.

 

-----> I've gotta agree with almost everyone else - Triple H wouldn't have been the monster heel he was without Foley.

 

6-Do a lot of name calling.

It makes you look Intelligent. And witty.

 

-----> No comment... jackass.

 

7-Bring up the fact that HHH is friends with Kevin Nash.

Don't try and explain what this might mean. Just say things like "What else do you expect from a friend of KEVIN NASH."

 

-----> Oh come on.

 

8-Invoke the Holy Smark Godhead of Chris Benoit and Eddy Guerrero.

A lot. For no reason. As though it meant something.

 

-----> It does mean something - it means that Benoit and Guerrero are, at the moment, exactly 14.2 times better than Triple H in the ring, and their in a half-assed fued with the New Dudleyz.

 

9-This is the most important rule of all- never, under ANY circumstances, mention anything that actually occurs inside the ring.

As a professional HHH basher, you're not interested in wrestling. You're interested in rumors. Lies. Conjecture. Conspiracy Theory. You're the Oliver Stone of net smarks, willing, indeed EAGER to fabricate entire fantasy worlds around absolutely anything related to Triple H. That episode of the Weakest Link? He won it because Stephanie threatened to fire anyone that voted him off. U.S. can't find Osama bin Laden? Triple H is hiding him. The crazier the theory, and the less actual proof to back it up, the better.

 

-----> Except the aforementioned squash, his IN-RING burial of Jericho (ask me about the tag matches, I'm begging you), Foley putting over HHH, or the fact that he hasn't had a good match in a long long while... Among other things.

 

Sorry, I was bored, felt like doing the point-by-point thing.

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Guest hockeytown9321

I agree that if Cactus wasn't leaving HHH wouldn't have beat him 3 straight PPV's, but was Cactus more or less over after those matches? Losing did not hurt him. Go back to the Royal Rumble the year before. Mick felt it was his job to get Rocky over as stong as possible going into WrestleMania. Rock got over a a killer in their Rumble Match, and Mick came out stronger too.

 

Next example is Bret Hart. Where was Steve Austin before their program? I think Austin only won one of their matches on PPV, but Bret still put him over, and he didn't know he was going anywhere. Bret was totally unselfish in that feud, because he knew he was good enough to keep his spot, same as Cactus was.

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Guest treble charged

Yeah, Foley didn't lose any heat after jobbing to HHH at RR and NWO 2000.

 

Look at the pop he got when he came back on Raw just before WM2000 as proof of that.

 

HHH isn't as strong a babyface as Foley was at that point, so if he were to lose 3 straight PPV matches to someone (Jericho), then it would kill him. And despite rumours to the contrary, I doubt the WWE without HHH would be any better off than it is now with HHH in a position of power.

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Guest goodhelmet

"Next example is Bret Hart. Where was Steve Austin before their program? I think Austin only won one of their matches on PPV, but Bret still put him over, and he didn't know he was going anywhere. Bret was totally unselfish in that feud, because he knew he was good enough to keep his spot, same as Cactus was. "

 

Actually, Bret never pinner by or submitted to Austin. Austin won his sole match against Bret by DQ (not Dairy Queen).

 

 

As for Hardy's win over Trips, does anyone even recall the actual match??? It was built as a fluke, was called as a fluke and required a chairshot from Matt Hardy in order for Trips to lay down. In the rematch, Hardy got about 14 seconds of offense in a complete squash by Trips. I could give a shit about Jeff Hardy but remember your history peeps. Remember a time when Razor Ramon put over the much smaller 123 Kid and kept losing to him in one of the most memorable angles of all time? Compare it to HHH-Jeff Hardy. History could have repeated itself without Jeff Hardy muttering a single word because Lord knows 123 couldn't work the mic worth a shit back in the day. Another example would be good ol' mikey Whipwreck from ECW. Built as a fluke champion who kept winning! And guess what? It was a great angle. Instead we got "Hardy isn't in my league and I AM THE GAME!!!!" Fuck that!!! Does anyone else remember the 2 man power trip's absolute demolition of Team Extreme? Pure brutality and no revenge or big underdogs defeating the big bullies.

 

As for the Cena angle, why does HHH even feel it is necessary to interject his opinions on an angle that does not concern him? If someone could answer that question reasonably then I see no point in discussing it further. In the meantime, it's safe to say that due to Vinnie MAc's slave-system of wrestlers back stabbing and playing games to either elevate themselves or maintain their positions, then Trips' motive was completely selfish in its intent. If Trips was the star who was scheduled to slap McMahon, do you think he would have turned down the chance? In the words of DDP, "I don't think so!"

 

As for Foley elevating HHH, abso-fucking-lutely!!!! Do you remember the crickets chirping in the background during his tired 1999 monologues? Do you recall every WWE star and their mother laying down for Trips in an effort to get him over. Only Foley actually succeeded in putting him over the hump.

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Guest The Man in Blak
So Foley is just a fat jobber who falls off things. Yeah he sure does suck here is a guy who went through intense pain through sick bumps to get his opponents over wow what a piece of shit it is a good thing he is gone and there are no more people like him. Someone who wrestled guys like Van Hammer when no one wanted to just cause he thought it would be a challenge and he thought he could help make him bigger booo sir you are an asshole how dare you try to help anyone out.

What in the world are you babbling about?

 

Foley single-handedly MADE Triple H's career, from being his most significant midcard feud as Hunter Hearst Helmsley, to putting him over in 2000. Even Foley himself recognized it.

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