Guest areacode212 Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Yeah, I read that yesterday. It's actually a pretty interesting interview. Especially the part where he talks about wanting to work with Jericho. LOL. After he told Goldberg that Jericho wasn't in his league (assuming what you guys said in this thread is true)
Guest El Satanico Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Oh yeah Hogan wanted to pass the torch to young guys but WCW kept it from happening. Oh yes we sure do believe you "Hulkster" and i'll buy that bridge off you while we're here. Hogan is going to get his power back by kissing Vince's ass for as long as it takes. Then we can laugh at those who are now claiming that Hogan's return is one of the greatest angles ever as everyone gets to see Hogan holding the belt till he retires.
Guest Tony149 Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 It's Hogan what do you expect. He knows how to play the game (Not HHH).
Guest Army Eye Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 well the stuff about Hogan getting in Goldberg's ear is total speculation. Goldberg is a grown boy, he makes his own decisions, he should be held responsible for not working with Jericho
Guest RickyB Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 I think what he meant by the "passing the torch" thing was that he would have passed the tourch but he didn't think that WCW had built anyone up enough to deserve it. And you can't deny that WCW really didn't build anyone up enough to deserve a big win over Hulk Hogan. Plus he did actually pass the torch to Goldberg if you remember.
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 funny, I remember reading the Torch newsletter some yaer ago about Hogan telling everyone he was the one teaching Vince how to party, how to book, how to basically run a wrestling company. really funny how hogan "had to go to the bathroom" 'cause he was excited... that's what happens when you're old... frankly, it wouldn't surprise me to read the same interview with hall or nash a few days from now...
Guest Nick the Pick Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Hogan couldn't pass the torch to anyone after about 1996 because Steve Austin had ripped it out of his frail withered grasp. THERE WAS NO TORCH IN 1990-96!!!
Guest RickyB Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Hogan was still the biggest name in Wrestling up until 1999. Austin wasn't a big name until 1998. And Hogan is 48, he's younger than Flair and in better shape than most of the younger guys.
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 hogan passing the torch to goldberg wasn't such a big deal. passing th otorch to someone should mean "man, I not only give you the gold but the opportunity at great gates and matches, the same I got 'til now". from where I sit, once Goldberg won the belt he just continued his "streak" of beating jobbers nitro after nitro... and think about it: goldberg wins the gold from hogan... nash beats goldberg in screwy fashions at starrcade... nash lays down for hogan on nitro and the belt is back around hogan's waist, all the meanwhile, goldie is still in the same spot in the card with no real sign of pushes and shit... IF and WHEN hogan passes you the torch you should worry...
Guest RickyB Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 HAHAHA!!! Did you forget about the 6 months between Hogan jobbing to Goldberg and Nash beating Hogan? Where Goldberg headlined PPV's and beat some of WCW's top Wrestlers.... no I don't think you do.
Guest Nick the Pick Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 I hate that expression 'pass the torch', anyway. What does the torch represent? The most popular wrestler in the world? The most famous? Coz Goldberg was nowhere near the most famous or popular wrestler in the world when Hogan put him over - Austin was outselling Goldberg in merchandise-sales 2 to 1, according to Mr Keith. Plus, Andre never really had the torch to begin with, unless getting over with your freakish size, and winning a load of fixed battle royals, denotes picking up the damn thing.
Guest RickyB Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 No the torch represents the Wrestler which each era is known for. Audre was the Wrestler who was at the top of the era before Hulkamania in the WWF. He actually passed the torch to The Warrior in the WWF but The Warrior didn't really do much after he beat Hogan though because the fans still wanted Hogan back.
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 hogan didn't pass the torch to warrior... he just merely gave him his spot (knowing he'd fail) to take a vacation before returning and squashing earthquake.
Guest RBKC Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 I'm new here, so I'm kind of curious. Does anyone have any hard evidence of Hogan's influence on MacMahon's decision-making? I mean, so far Hogan hasn't done anything more than what he was told and has raised much less of a stink than either Nash or Hall. I, for one, am going to wait until he starts actual TROUBLE before I start complaining about "He's got his creative control back." You're being just a little trigger-happy, people!
Guest RickyB Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Yeah RBKC is probably right. I've said that for ages, why complain about them when they haven't done anything? Hogan's done what he's been told.
Guest Captian Linger Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Well, someone cited an old Torch-Talk interview with Hogan where Hogan basically confirmed what they're talking about. Unless he was going ON THE RECORD, lying to everyone, I'd say it's "hard evidence".
Guest The Shockmaster! Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Since I don't have to work with him I don't really give a shit if Hogan is the biggest dick in pro wrestling. I like the big bald orange bastard when he's on my tv screen because he entertains me and thats all that matters to me.
Guest Captian Linger Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Since I don't have to work with him I don't really give a shit if Hogan is the biggest dick in pro wrestling. I like the big bald orange bastard when he's on my tv screen because he entertains me and thats all that matters to me. Mabye so but that has nothing to do with this discussion here. You sound like a Bill Clinton apologist, but even their ranks seem thin these day. Wonder why?
Guest mastermind Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Okay this passing of the torch stuff. I find that A and E documentary to be full of crap when Hogan AND Vince are working the producers. Hogan was long past Andre the Giant in terms of being the top star across the world by the time of WrestleMania 3. The only real selling point was that Andre had that undefeated streak and his huge frame, so it was a dream match. I don't know silly me thought Bob Backlund took the reigns from Bruno Sammartino and then Hogan took it from Backlund in terms of the top stars for each era. In wwf mags at the time the wwf would always compare Hogan and Sammartino. Yeah, I think Hogan TRIED to pass the torch to Warrior in 1990. You know why? The media and insiders here back then stated that Hogan was slated to win the title back at WM 7 and retire. However, the fans just didn't take to Warrior as much as Hogan. The gates and whatnot were sliding. Even when Warrior went to some arenas he would get booed because he beat Hogan. You can't pass the torch to someone the fans won't accept as the torch bearer. So we get Hogan turning in 1996 BEFORE Austin really took off. Hogan was still the most world reknown wrestling star although wrestling itself was on life support BEFORE the NWO. Austin and the NWO pretty much had the same anti-establishment/gang style attitude. There was no real passing of the torch by anyone because of the competition. Fans either rallied behind guys like Hogan/Savage/Flair or rallied behind guys like Austin/Rock/Goldberg. I think Goldberg couldn't really get the torch passed to him when many fans saw him as an Austin ripoff. It also didn't help any when most of his matches didn't have any epic feel to it like Austin/Bret or the Austin/Mcmahon rivalry. However, Goldberg losing to Nash did kind of start wcw's downfall. Now the time of the passing of the torch can happen. I already think the fans have made Austin the most world reknown star anyways in terms of the Hogan type level. In many ways Rock ripped Austin's interview style if you check back how Rocky Maivia use to do interviews. Well, it's said that Hogan told Bischoff he gave a lot of ideas to Vince Mcmahon which I think is possible since the wwf stunk up the joint a lot since Hogan left in terms of epic storylines. It also goes into Hogan's favour when we see that Hogan was also responsible for wrestling's boom in the 1990's with the NWO. Vince tried it with DX and the gang wars and it was a joke although DX was somewhat interesting, but I think Russo's taste had more to do with that. I mean the segment of Rock and Hogan seems a bit strange when you consider the wwf couldn't do anything close to making wcw and ecw look like a threat as the NWO did on one night.
Guest The Shockmaster! Posted February 20, 2002 Report Posted February 20, 2002 Since I don't have to work with him I don't really give a shit if Hogan is the biggest dick in pro wrestling. I like the big bald orange bastard when he's on my tv screen because he entertains me and thats all that matters to me. Mabye so but that has nothing to do with this discussion here. You sound like a Bill Clinton apologist, but even their ranks seem thin these day. Wonder why? What this thread is about is to bitch and moan about a situation that no one can honestly say is true or not and I gave my opinion on it. And dude Clinton's not the president anymore, your side won maybe you should let it go. Besides your compariosn was all fucked up anyway.
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