Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Speaking from the point of view of someone with quite the stereotypical disenchanted feeling when it comes to current WWE TV, I'm not really looking forward to this year's Summerslam, which is usually my favorite Pay Per View that Vince churns out. All of the big "money matches" really aren't money matches, per say, because Hogan/Vince, if it does happen, panders to a crowd of people that doesn't exist, and they're going to have a hell of a time convincing their usual crowd that it's a big deal, though it's not totally impossible. HHH/HBK is, I'm assuming, an attempt to re-create the aura HHH got after beating Foley twice, and I have to say, it's not happening. Teased alliances resulting in heel turns aren't exactly a stretch from the norm for Trips, and if they're expecting everyone to forget about the last eight or so times last year, they'll be treated with more indiference as a result. I'm all for heel HHH, but the right way to go about it, this is not. As a match, Michaels is a crippled, Trips is quasi-crippled, and Shawn can't work a "too old to bump resulting in lots of matwork" type match anymore than Hogan can. I could live without this match ever happening, and I loved Shawn and Hunter in DX. Benoit/RVD is the type of match I would hope doesn't get too much time and results in lots of Benoit offense, preferably arm work. Benoit seems to have recovered nicely enough, but working with someone like Van Dam is different, just like Austin working with Eddy Guererro would have been different. This match is interesting, but given the task of saving the show, it might come off dissapointing. Also, Eddy seems left out in the cold again. If they have brains they'll turn him face and book Benoit/Eddy for No Mercy. Of course, Team Canada has to do something. An eight man tag against Misterio, Edge, Cena and another dude could be fun. Turning Angle babyface and sticking him in there might be nice, but signs point to Rikishi. Lastly, Brock/Rock is happening. Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted July 29, 2002 When you're right, you're right. Honestly, I'm trying to give this show a shot, but really, there hasn't been anything that interests me at ALL. Brockberg/Rock is basically a forgone conclusion, a potential RVD/Benoit feud really doesn't float my boat at all(but it may be pretty good, though), Booker seemingly has nothing to do, they probably aren't going to give Rey a CW title shot so soon so scratch that, Undertaker's been picking on Chris Harvard which makes no sense, and I don't get Smackdown so I have no fucking clue as to what's going on there... Goddamn, that's a bunch of negatives, but still, I'm going to give this card a shot and maybe Brockberg will try to make his title run worth something if the bookers don't fuck it up first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Just to put everything into perspective, how long do we have until SummerSlam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted July 29, 2002 When you're right, you're right. Honestly, I'm trying to give this show a shot, but really, there hasn't been anything that interests me at ALL. Brockberg/Rock is basically a forgone conclusion, a potential RVD/Benoit feud really doesn't float my boat at all(but it may be pretty good, though), Booker seemingly has nothing to do, they probably aren't going to give Rey a CW title shot so soon so scratch that, Undertaker's been picking on Chris Harvard which makes no sense, and I don't get Smackdown so I have no fucking clue as to what's going on there... Goddamn, that's a bunch of negatives, but still, I'm going to give this card a shot and maybe Brockberg will try to make his title run worth something if the bookers don't fuck it up first. And I thuoght I was the only one in this board who doesn't automatically assume a Benoit/RVD feud to be a dream come true! As for Brocky/Rocky, there's still no reason they can't add anyone else to the mix (although I honestly have no idea who). It's a true tragedy about HBK/HHH, although has that been confirmed yet? I don't really want to see that one either. As for Booker having nothing to do, that's another real tragedy, but there's still time to build at least a half-assed feud, which can maybe even last through to the next PPV (No Mercy, right? or Unforgiven?). As for Rey, I hope he stays away from the cruiserweight division for now so he doesn't get pigeonholed and "held down" by the division, and becomes an RVD-ish character. As for the Undertaker/Chris Harvard run-in last week, I don't think that was anything other than a one-time deal. At least I hope not... can you imagine the resulting Undertaker/Bradshaw vs. Chris Harvard/William Regal match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Just to put everything into perspective, how long do we have until SummerSlam? I'm pretty sure it's probably 3 weeks away or less, but please feel free to correct me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RicFlairGlory Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Do you guys like... think its possible to wait until SummerSlams matches have been set up before you criticize the show? All we really know is Brock vs. Rock, and with 4 (or 5) weeks to go, god knows even that has the possibility of changing. We might even get HBK vs HHH, which is a markout match for some. Aside that, we know absolutely nothing. For all you know, it could be Benoit vs. RVD in a best of 3 falls for the IC belt match. We could get Booker T in even a SMALL push, who knows. The card is not only not set in stone, but doesnt really exist yet. Let them set the show up before we think of knocking it down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 29, 2002 I'm willing to give it a shot and keep an open mind about it. You never know, they might surprise us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 29, 2002 I believe that Rock vs. Lesnar could be captivating depending on how they work the story. But I don't really want to see the match, and with Rock leaving we all know that he won't have the belt leaving Summerslam. HBK vs. HHH will be the worst match ever. I have no personal interest as I have always been a Bret and Benoit kind of guy.. Which is to say I don't like the kliq. If they are expecting a Rock/Hogan WM 18 feel for this one, they are in for a rude awakening. HHH is not Rock and HBK is definitely not Hogan. Vince/Hogan I don't want to see and I hate Vince and love Hogan. With this all said, the Wwf will probably stack the undercard to make up for the lacklustre performances in the headliners. Benoit vs. RVD would be interesting, but neither man talks...which is a bit of a problem... Unless you have Flair representing RVD and Arn representing Benoit... Which I don't know would be that good for either wrestlers. I am usually apathetic to Wwf PPVs anyways, this is no different. The only way I would buy em is if they had 5 great matches on em, cause if not, my $30 is going to tapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Do you guys like... think its possible to wait until SummerSlams matches have been set up before you criticize the show? I wasn't critizing the show itself, it's more along the lines of what they are probably building up to. And hell, I even stated that I was gonna give the show a shot when they announced the finalized card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RicFlairGlory Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Do you guys like... think its possible to wait until SummerSlams matches have been set up before you criticize the show? I wasn't critizing the show itself, it's more along the lines of what they are probably building up to. And hell, I even stated that I was gonna give the show a shot when they announced the finalized card. Well how can you say the buildup hasnt been great lately and probably will suck, then say you're going to give it a shot Pick a side, man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted July 29, 2002 I tend to think that SummerSlam will be pretty good this year. I mean, it's the second biggest PPV for the WWE, and to not make it a good PPV would be stupid. I'm looking forward to seeing the Rock© vs. Lesnar, and I'm hoping that Lesnar wins the WWE Undisputed Title, which he will no doubt. As for the other matches, if HBK vs. HHH is on the card, I will for sure buy SummerSlam to see that match. That is one of my dream matches, and I'm hoping it takes place at SummerSlam. A Benoit vs. RVD match is more than likely going to happen, and it will be for the Intercontinental Title. I'm hoping it's a Ladder Match or even a 2/3 Falls Match. I'm also thinking that Knoble will defend the Cruiserweight Title against Mysterio. It's going to happen, I just know it. Then of course you have the Undertaker, Hogan, Angle, Jericho, etc. who will have matches. So, yeah, I think that SummerSlam will be good this year, and there might even be a big surprise, you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Do you guys like... think its possible to wait until SummerSlams matches have been set up before you criticize the show? All we really know is Brock vs. Rock, and with 4 (or 5) weeks to go, god knows even that has the possibility of changing. We might even get HBK vs HHH, which is a markout match for some. Aside that, we know absolutely nothing. For all you know, it could be Benoit vs. RVD in a best of 3 falls for the IC belt match. We could get Booker T in even a SMALL push, who knows. The card is not only not set in stone, but doesnt really exist yet. Let them set the show up before we think of knocking it down You know if HBK wasn't rumored to have a match on the card you'd be saying the same damn thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RicFlairGlory Report post Posted July 29, 2002 Possibly, however the fact that HBK MAY wrestle means the WWE is already geared to take a few risks with this show, and as they have in the past, often their gambles work out kinda well, at least in the here and now. Jericho may have gotten buried to all hell, but the time he actually pulled out the double upsets to win it, it was a good show. Its not neccesarily the match, but even HBK aside, they seem to be building it up well. Just another step in the mortar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites