Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted July 30, 2002 While I feel the feud will produce some good matches, I really don't think it will accomplish its objective (making Jericho a threat.) Even if Jericho goes over clean, Flair doesn't really have any rub left to give for two reasons. The first is his advanced age, obviously. Will people take Jericho any more seriously if he beats a 54(?)-year-old man. Secondly, since coming back in November, Flair has won all of THREE matches. He's been jobbing left and right to everyone above midcard status, will jobbing to one more guy really accomplish anything? I mean, if you want to rebuild Jericho, have him feud with and beat someone like 'Taker, or Hogan (sadly not a possibility since Hogan is on SD!) or even *gasp* HHH. It's not rocket science folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted July 30, 2002 As long as Jericho doesn't have to wrestle John Cena, I'm all for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Narcoleptic Jumper Report post Posted July 30, 2002 What they should do is have Jericho be the one that threw Shawn threw the window in order to get under HHH's skin and piss him off, starting ONE MORE feud between the two where JERICHO WINS. Hey, I can dream, can't I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted July 30, 2002 Jericho/Flair could be really good...but Jericho needs to get put over major so he can become a force again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 30, 2002 This feud should have happened back when Jericho was champion and was cutting promos with Flair every week. Flair had never stepped in the ring, both guys had plenty of heat, and Jericho probably would have become a star. Now, these two will be lucky if they get booked fourth from the top at Summerslam. Basically, this is too little, too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest welshjerichomark Report post Posted July 30, 2002 but if jericho goes over it will be better than nothing, better thanjobbing to edge and john cena at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JericholicEdgeHead Report post Posted July 30, 2002 I think that Flair should pass the torch to Jericho in his final match. And then give the title and persona " Nature Boy" to Jericho. Jericho could wear the robe and all. Remember "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers passed the torch to Flair so it would be fitting for Flair to pass the torch to Jericho. The "Nature Boy" Chris Jericho.......sounds good to me!! It's better than Y2J. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted July 30, 2002 It's late, but being Flair's last match, if it really is final, has some rub left with it. People will remember Jericho beating Flair that final time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 30, 2002 It would be neat to see Jericho and Bischoff form the unholy alliance against Flair, where the feud becomes a hate triangle. Flair hates Bischoff because of their past and the fact that Bischoff gets 'da kidz' like Jeff Hardy to go out and kill themselves for ratings, Jericho hates Flair because Flair is a legend and Jericho is the only living legend in the Wwf, and Flair hates Jericho because Jericho cracked a chair over his back on RAW. Then you have the Jericho/Bischoff relationship where Bischoff said Jericho would never win the title and the fact that their characters are so similiar would make for some great television, and that alone would get Jericho over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 30, 2002 I think it would be great... the larger than life living legend vs..... the larger than life living legend If done correctly it'll do wonders for both guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted July 30, 2002 hogan/jericho would have done so much more for chris. Still, hopefully his move means they're lining him up to retire taker. Though it will be hhh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted July 30, 2002 What they should do is have Jericho be the one that threw Shawn threw the window in order to get under HHH's skin and piss him off, starting ONE MORE feud between the two where JERICHO WINS. Hey, I can dream, can't I? You and I had the same dream. Wierd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 30, 2002 Flair has to lose his final match to SOMEONE. Why not Jericho? I could have sworn they were ending it right there with The Rock, but Jericho going over clean and Flair cutting one of his heartwrenching promos about his career and it being on the line couldn't do anything but make Jericho look good. Flair can still make Jericho and HHH can't take him back down. I'm calling it now, Jericho will be made by Flair and go on to be one of the biggest names in the sport *echo*. *crickets chirp* Well, that's what I want to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted July 30, 2002 Since I'm assuming Flair's big announcement was that he was going to retire, I see a Jericho vs. Flair match taking place at SummerSlam, where Flair would lose, and pass the torch down to Jericho. Having Jericho beat Flair would be just as good in my opinion as having him beat Hogan, the Undertaker or HHH, if not better. After all, Flair is a 16-time World Champion. Anyways, the timing is kind of off for this match, since it should have taken place when Jericho was the WWE Undisputed Champion. Oh well, I still think that this match will be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted July 30, 2002 I think any win over HHH is unsalvageable at this point due to the number of times he's lost/been made like his bitch. Unless he's a face, and even than... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted July 30, 2002 I'd like to see Jericho beat Flair, take the Nature Boy name as was suggested and turn face in the process. He could say he's learnt a lot from Flair. His heel run hasn't been particularly entertaining and I'd guess he'd be more over as a face... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mister foozel Report post Posted July 31, 2002 no one ever said it means jericho and flair will feud but if Flair reveals what he was gonna say on RAW was reirement or something and that he's so pissed at Jericho now and he starts up his own faction, that'd be sweet to fight the un-americans, or anti-americans or whatever they are being called now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Narcoleptic Jumper Report post Posted July 31, 2002 I think any win over HHH is unsalvageable at this point due to the number of times he's lost/been made like his bitch. Unless he's a face, and even than... You could still do it. I typed out a big long scenario at one point and don't really want to explain it again, but it involves Jericho taking a 6 month break, coming back a new person and scaring the shit out of Triple H with his intensity, and sort of play out like Foley/HHH did, only if Foley won. Of course, that would take both sides to work so it wouldn't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Hmmm Flair starting up his own faction eh? Could it be... the long awaited return of the 4 horsemen? At this point just fantasy booking, but you never know. If you were Flair, and let's say you were planning on retiring soon, wouldn't you want to revive the greatest faction of all time just once more before going out? And for those against the idea... do you really want the 4 horsemen's book to end in WCW, where they were last scene being beaten like bitches by the nWo? and in other news "In Washington State, elementary school teacher Mary Kay LeTourneau pleaded guilty to having sex with a sixth-grade student.... LeTourneau has been branded a sex offender, or as the kids refer to her, 'the greatest teacher of all time' - Norm McDonald Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Jericho and Flair would need more then one match for it to help anything. They should have a few matches that somehow never get finished cleanly. Then blow off their fued with something like a cage match where they can't be interupted. Then for the sake of Jericho they need to have a brutal blow off retirement cage match that Jericho legitly wins. A brutal blood soaked cage match where both guys can hardly stand that has Jericho cleanly beating and retiring Flair from wrestling would help Jericho. Jericho getting a half assed win in one normal match to end it all wouldn't help Jericho at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 31, 2002 And for those against the idea... do you really want the 4 horsemen's book to end in WCW, where they were last scene being beaten like bitches by the nWo? Yes, please, God, yes. The more the Horsemen come back the more their legacy is tarnished, so why continue the shitting on them? The Horsemen is a dated and over-done stable that has no place in today's business. The only time it worked was when Ole, Arn, Flair, Tully, and then Luger, and Windham were involved. After that, it lost all purpose and aside from putting over the nWo and Flair, hasn't had one since then. I mean, between Vince hating everything that influenced wrestling not done by him, and Bischoff hating everything Flair-related, there's a huge possibility that they would be burried worse than they ever have been before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cactus Clothesline Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Exactly, this has to be done right a la HHH/Foley - the greatest feud since I started watching wrestling again. This feud needs to be drawn out for at least 2 months for Flair to properly give the rub/pass the torch to Jericho. It's fuckin' sad that the WWF has pretty much cut the balls off both of these guys as of now and this feud didn't happen when Jericho was the first ever WWF Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion but I'm hoping they can come close to making up for it here by letting these two go all out on the mic and in the ring. Now that Jericho's contract is settled he's about to become a true superstar! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 31, 2002 well, logic dictates that jericho goes over, but flair is a 54-year-old man and has very little in-ring credibility left. for flair to have some rub to give to jericho, he has to get some kind of high-profile winning streak, to prove that he's still the man. he's been beaten so many times that if jericho beat him tomorrow, i wouldn't really care. as it stands, this is really a catch-22, cause both guys have lost so much that another loss for either of them would be pointless. a win over flair is NOT the proper way to start rebuilding jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 31, 2002 well, logic dictates that jericho goes over, but flair is a 54-year-old man and has very little in-ring credibility left. for flair to have some rub to give to jericho, he has to get some kind of high-profile winning streak, to prove that he's still the man. he's been beaten so many times that if jericho beat him tomorrow, i wouldn't really care. as it stands, this is really a catch-22, cause both guys have lost so much that another loss for either of them would be pointless. a win over flair is NOT the proper way to start rebuilding jericho. I think some of you guys are missing the point A feud between Flair and Jericho could get both of them over if handled properly. It doesn't matter that Flair is 54, and it doesn't matter what he looks like now. If they write this feud correctly and let both of these men loose on the mic, making it a heated and personal feud ala Foley/HHH, then it would be the first stepping stone in A) building Jericho back up to an A level performer in terms of rank and B ) sending Flair off in the way that he should be sent off I'll say it again, alls it takes is great mic work, great writing, and somewhat great ring work, which believe me, Flair can still provide. The fans still care about Flair. Jericho still has heat, whether some of you choose to believe that or not. Put the two together and you have a winning combination IF done the way it should be done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Yeah being done correctly is the big thing. But this is WWeee so being done correctly is 50 50 at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted July 31, 2002 i don't think it'll do flair or jericho any good, maybe number 1 contender for the wwe belt...dunno, but this can be easily a **** match if worked out well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted July 31, 2002 I think it could be great. Even if Flair hasn't won much lately, if management lets Flair and Jericho have 20 minutes of promo time instead of giving it to Eric Bischoff or Shawn Michaels, then this program will be gold. Everyone saw how good Flair and Jericho were at talking shit about each other back when Jericho was champ; if they can get back into that, if the management is smart enough to give them mostly free reign over their promos so they'll be able to bring up the history and really hype the hell out of this, it could work. My biggest fear about this whole thing, though, is that they build it amazingly, cutting great promos, beatdowns, the new dirtiest player in the game and the old dirtiest player in the game taking each other out at any opportunity...and then have Jericho win by rolling Flair up with his feet on the ropes and getting a fast count with JR screaming "Flair had this match won, Jericho couldn't beat him so he cheated to win!" For someone to pass the proverbial torch, the finish has to be absolutely 100% definitive. See Foley, Mick, No Way Out 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I'm not totally sure the interruption was to cap off a feud, unless it's done in the "Flair was going to announce his retirement but now is so pissed that he just wants to kick Jericho's ass" style, but since Hogan just did that a month or two ago with Vince (in a "feud" that still hasn't come to fruition, and was more than likely just a way to explain to the Hogan marks why they took the belt off their beloved Hulk Has-been) I don't think it'd come off as genuine or believable at all (although I have no idea what else Flair would've been announcing, maybe that he's sorry he was responsible for such an awful WWE shirt that's now on clearance at Shopzone?). Even if it was, I have to agree that, even if done properly, it'd be too little, too late, unless they put together a mad series of ol' skool Flair packages. For some reason I want to see a Jericho promo where he says he could beat Steamboat blind-folded with one hand tied behind his back. If Cowboy Orton can claim Randy Orton's a better wrestler than Lou Thesz, surely they could have a "Jericho disses Flair's glory" package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites