Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 1, 2002 with Booker T as the Predator... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Marshall Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I just hope they make a movie of Mick Foleys first book. How awesome would that be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Bradshaw in.... TEXAS JUSTICE! Chris Harvard needs to "pay his dues" summer of 2003. Rated: NA-17 With all the fake WWE ideas, this is the only one that got me laughing. When the only joke in a thread filled with attempts at humor is one of the most widespread and stalest in the book, I a) check to see if I really didn't wander into a theatre playing Undercover Brother and B) lambast all of you going for humor who failed. But at least you tried, right? Like me, did I use the word "lambast" right? Is "lambast" even a word? At least I tried... Anyway, I happen to think this idea has a lot of potential. I think they should save money though and go direct-to-video with their releases, that way if they aren't big commercial successes (which they won't be at first, unless its something like Scorpion King 2) they will be able to recoup their losses easier. My dream WWE movie? A psychological thriller/trip movie with Raven in a lead role, directed by Darren Aronofsky. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he? Also, this is only sort of related, but did anyone else think the guy who played Boromir in Lord of the Rings was HHH? I did both times I saw the movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I can see this flopping in a few months. Vince McMahon will go 0-3 when venturing outside of wrestling. After this Vince McMahon will start up a hockey league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 After this Vince McMahon will start up a hockey league. [insert The Goon joke here] Doesn't Chris Jericho have a background in/still do hockey? If they did that, they could have him do a legit "guest appearance" to drum up interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted August 1, 2002 [insert The Goon joke here] Doesn't Chris Jericho have a background in/still do hockey? If they did that, they could have him do a legit "guest appearance" to drum up interest. Yeah, that's true. So, Jericho would be on one team, along with the other heels. On the other team would be the faces, led by the Rock. Vince McMahon would be the referee, and both Bischoff and Stephanie McMahon would be the backup referees, or whatever the other two refs are called. This venture would last one night, and flop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jester Report post Posted August 1, 2002 If all they do is back movies, they could conceivably make money off it. If entrusted to the right people. Heh. Actually diversifying your company is not a bad idea, because when you have a slowdown in one industry you can rely on the other. It's probably not a wise idea to do this now, when interest is down and ratings are bleeding. They should have tried to do something like this back when the company was healthier. Oh, and they also should have picked safer bets, like just about anything other than the XFL and WBF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Actually diversifying your company is not a bad idea, because when you have a slowdown in one industry you can rely on the other. It's probably not a wise idea to do this now, when interest is down and ratings are bleeding. They should have tried to do something like this back when the company was healthier. they did do it back then too, only they did the XFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Actually diversifying your company is not a bad idea, because when you have a slowdown in one industry you can rely on the other. It's probably not a wise idea to do this now, when interest is down and ratings are bleeding. They should have tried to do something like this back when the company was healthier. Actually, since interest is down now, I think it's a better time than ever to try something new. For those who know big wrestlers but don't watch wrestling, it may peak their curiosity, and if it's good, might even get them watching wrestling again. For the fans who are still watching, they're obviously loyal enough that they'll support it, and if the movie is better or more popular than wrestling, they'll still be financially viable until wrestling pulls out of its slump (I realize the WWE is far from being in financial trouble but you can never be too careful). I picture it WWE Movies as being like Smackdown! Records, in that aside from the plugging on WWE shows (hopefully not in goofy/lame backstage skits, although those are funny [albeit for unintended reasons]), they're fairly separate entities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Actually diversifying your company is not a bad idea, because when you have a slowdown in one industry you can rely on the other. It's probably not a wise idea to do this now, when interest is down and ratings are bleeding. They should have tried to do something like this back when the company was healthier. they did do it back then too, only they did the XFL Why do people keep comparing this with the XFL? The XFL was a failure because it wasn't marketed properly, an attempt to emphasize the entertainment when the emphasis should have been on the sports, because they figured it would bring in interest the same way it does in wrestling, when it didn't. It was actually some pretty decent football. This problem simply won't happen in movies. Movies are entertainment, no matter how you look at it, and when marketed as such it will be interpreted properly by the target audience and will probably be fairly successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted August 1, 2002 The thing that will kill it though is the fact it is WWE Films. As soon as a non-fan sees that WWE label they will immdiately disregard it as wrestling crap. If it was Titan Films or something else but I like that name that did not have WWE right in the name people would not realize it was the WWE and give it a chance. Wrestling fans would know what the deal is because it would be plugged on the shows as a Titan Films upcoming feature so they know it is a McMahon deal and the non-wrestling fans would watch the films under the Titan Films heading with an open mind then once the film was over could see McMahon productions or something along those lines. The wrestling label automatically will create a stigma in most people's minds that whatever they will see is just going to be campy tripe even if it is a decent film. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted August 1, 2002 The thing that will kill it though is the fact it is WWE Films. As soon as a non-fan sees that WWE label they will immdiately disregard it as wrestling crap. If it was Titan Films or something else but I like that name that did not have WWE right in the name people would not realize it was the WWE and give it a chance. Wrestling fans would know what the deal is because it would be plugged on the shows as a Titan Films upcoming feature so they know it is a McMahon deal and the non-wrestling fans would watch the films under the Titan Films heading with an open mind then once the film was over could see McMahon productions or something along those lines. The wrestling label automatically will create a stigma in most people's minds that whatever they will see is just going to be campy tripe even if it is a decent film. I agree with that, and therefore, I don't think this whole movie thing will do so well. I like your idea of calling it Titan Films instead of WWE Films. That way, not many non-wrestling fans will recognize it has anything to do with the WWE. Like you said, once the non-wrestling fans see WWE Films, they probably won't watch it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 1, 2002 The thing that will kill it though is the fact it is WWE Films. As soon as a non-fan sees that WWE label they will immdiately disregard it as wrestling crap. If it was Titan Films or something else but I like that name that did not have WWE right in the name people would not realize it was the WWE and give it a chance. Wrestling fans would know what the deal is because it would be plugged on the shows as a Titan Films upcoming feature so they know it is a McMahon deal and the non-wrestling fans would watch the films under the Titan Films heading with an open mind then once the film was over could see McMahon productions or something along those lines. The wrestling label automatically will create a stigma in most people's minds that whatever they will see is just going to be campy tripe even if it is a decent film. This is true, but look at Scorpion King. Sure, it was a follow-up to The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, but because The Rock was in a starring role, it also had a strong "wrestling" label. However, many reviewers were surprised at how good and non-wrestling oriented it is, and although that may not have encouraged everyone who would avoid a film with a "wrestling label", it did show that some of those who had stereotypes against its "wrestling label" could enjoy, and if the same scenario occurred at WWE films, and it put out a good film that had wrestlers in it but wasn't "wrestling focused", that the "wrestling label bias" wouldn't exist as strongly for future features or once the first wave of positive reviews came in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I see your point about the Rock but he was already accepted as a mainstream star and also the film was not casually known as a Vince McMahon production. The Rock can pull off a movie but when people hear that Vince himself is making movies people are going to assume that he is just going to be peddling his wrestlers into B movies. People can buy a single extremely popular wrestler in a Hollywood film I think the problem would arise from every wrestler appearing in a Vince McMahon film. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jester Report post Posted August 1, 2002 This was on Reuters' this morning.... Wrestlers Headlock Hollywood July 31, 2002 04:54 AM ET Email this article Printer friendly version By Claude Brodesser HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - World Wrestling Entertainment has created a Los Angeles-based division that will seek out film and TV opportunities for the WWE-branded characters. The crossover success of WWE star Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in the modest hit "The Scorpion King" is one example of the type of opportunity WWE will continue to seek in feature films: placing WWE characters in prominent roles. WWE Films will aim to create and produce material that "will appeal not only to our loyal fans, but to a larger public as well," said WWE chief executive Linda McMahon. Increasingly, TV viewer loyalty has become a nettlesome issue for WWE: While still delivering healthy ratings numbers of young male viewers, its grappler shows like "UPN Smackdown" and its TNN cablecast have suffered double-digit declines in young male viewership over the last year. The office will be run by Joel Simon, a co-producer of "X-Men" and executive producer of "Wild Wild West." He called WWE "a powerful brand" that is "an untapped creative resource for Hollywood." He added: "I believe that the WWE has created a new breed of action-adventure hero: one with a ready-made audience. WWE attracts a strong, youth-oriented audience, the type of moviegoers and viewers who can financially make or break a film. "My job is to show how the WWE brand and its Superstars can be used to best advantage to bring its global audience of teens and young adults to new film and television projects." WWE will finance its own overhead and development for these projects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted August 1, 2002 The XFL comparison is flawed for this reason: how many football leagues have managed to last and thrive other than the NFL? USFL closed down. Arena, CFL, and NFL Europe are bush leagues with almost no decent TV coverage (which is one thing the XFL did have) and they just scrape by by making little in profits but having low costs as well. XFL was probably too ambitious in what they set out to do (TV in primetime on NBC, etc.), but it's not like there's a proven track record of leagues going up against the NFL and winning or something. On the other hand, are there movie studios outside of the big Hollywood conglomerate who make money and decent movies? Yeah I'd say so, Mirimax being an example. The movie industry is a lot larger and more open to expansion than the football "industry" and there's a lot more room for fringe companies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I think this has a chance to work if they change the name to Xtreme Movie Studios. If the teaser line for every movie was "The X is for Xtreme" that would help also. Ok, in all seriousness, can we agree that this is the worst idea ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FakeRazor Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Makes a lot of sense. McMahon makes roster cuts all so he can open a movie studio. Oh, and buy a 14 million dollar condo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted August 1, 2002 " Makes a lot of sense. McMahon makes roster cuts all so he can open a movie studio. Oh, and buy a 14 million dollar condo. " Oh right, because Vince isn't allowed to spend his own money on an expensive house, he has to be a charity for wrestlers instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Oh right, because Vince isn't allowed to spend his own money on an expensive house, he has to be a charity for wrestlers instead. Buying a condo when he and WWE have been losing money over various things since 2001? That just puts WWE in much worse financial shape(even if they probably were making a profit) when he buys a $14 million condo at a time like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted August 1, 2002 "Buying a condo when he and WWE have been losing money over various things since 2001? That just puts WWE in much worse financial shape(even if they probably were making a profit) when he buys a $14 million condo at a time like this. " Are you dense or what? VINCE HAS HIS OWN MONEY. That's like saying Bill Gates can't build his castle out there in Seattle because Microsoft layed off employees the quarter before he bought it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Well being called WWE Films won't chase off the target audience. I mean seeing HHH in the trailers would chase off people not in the target audience before they even saw it was from WWE films. I damn well know it would chase me off. If i want bad actors and small budgets i'll stick with Troma thank you very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted August 1, 2002 They still haven't said what flicks they'll be making. They could be making porn for all we know. In that case, Molly Holly better be afraid. Chris Harvard too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Ok...Chyna leave the WWE to pursue an acting career... One year later, WWE launches it's own movie division... You know what this means... CONSPIRACRY!!!!!!!! Actually, I don't this is as bad an idea as the XFL was, because I think the WWE has a large enough fanbase to keep the production company afloat if their movies are good enough. As long as they produce films in moderation, DON'T focus the films solely on wrestling and if their first few films don't completely bomb when they hit theatres, I can actually see this working. I do like the idea of Titan Films or something like that, because WWE films sounds cheesy and will likely drive away non-wrestling fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kid Kablam Report post Posted August 1, 2002 Yeah why put all the attention on your dying wrestling company when you can make movies. God why? Another stupid wrestling knock off movie. FACE IT, Beyond the Mat, was the ONLY good wrestling based movie. I guess they could do actions and romances but hey, it sucks either way. I could make a good wrestling movie. Of course it would have to be anti-kayfabe, but I'll bet I could write a good wrestling movie. (Yes I'm a film student. Let the hating begin) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted August 1, 2002 I just hope they make a movie of Mick Foleys first book. How awesome would that be? You know...that could be an awesome movie! It would be R of course...so they could include every perverted story and detailed death match scenes. Hey, it would appeal to a lot of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
