Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 31, 2002 The following is from 1wrestling... "The ratings for Monday night are in and Raw scored a 3.7 cable rating, with a 6.1 share, according to Nielsen Media Research. The show did hours of 3.4 and 4.0. The number is down from the 4.3 that they did last week. It appears now that last week's rating spike was due more to people wanting to know what happened at the Vengeance PPV than it being the first sign in a rebirth in the audience. As you will remember, until the last few months the post PPV Raw was usually good for a half point spike in the ratings. It appears that is what drove the Raw rating up last week." ...now before some of you go out and say such things as WWE is shutting down, Eric Bishoff will now be fired, or other such dribble, remember that last week was after a PPV. Myself, and many of you, expected last RAW to go up a bit because of the PPV, then fall a bit this week, and THEN we will begin to see a true "rise" in viewership. There is ONE wrench in all of this however... ...We must look at the week BEFORE the post-PPV RAW last week, which pulled in a 3.8. Now that is a .1 drop, so that confuses me. I suppose like I said above, we must wait for the future to really say. Anyhow, I just thought you might want to know all of this! Sincerely, ...Downhome... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Vince: Someone call Bill Watts! Its time for a change! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted July 31, 2002 It's Jericho's fault! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest myburninghammer Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Dude, the ratings aren't going to go up, regardless of the quality of the shows....face it, wrestling had its moment--several years, really--and it ain't "cool" anymore. Bring on slamball. kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Dude, the ratings aren't going to go up, regardless of the quality of the shows....face it, wrestling had its moment--several years, really--and it ain't "cool" anymore. Bring on slamball. kidding. No, obviously that isn't going to happen now, just as I said above. They can however begin to rise over time, by putting out quality show after quality show, thus MAKING it "cool" again. Give it a few more months of what we've seen the past two weeks, and they will be on the rise by the end of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Dude, the ratings aren't going to go up, regardless of the quality of the shows....face it, wrestling had its moment--several years, really--and it ain't "cool" anymore. Well, there's actually a large number of fans, who were watching in those days, who aren't watching now. They need to find out why they aren't watching (poor storylines? Tired of the same old characters? Hmm?) and try to change it for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Hunter: See, I told you bring Jericho to Raw was a bad idea! Vince: But it was your idea! Hunter: Shut up, I'm not supposed to be on the creative team! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Well, there's actually a large number of fans, who were watching in those days, who aren't watching now. They need to find out why they aren't watching (poor storylines? Tired of the same old characters? Hmm?) and try to change it for them. Well, a good deal of them are probably die-hard WCW fans who were completely turned off by the Vince-heavy final Nitro and/or the complete burial of the WCW guys signed by the WWE during the Invasion storyline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ironman Report post Posted July 31, 2002 It's the summer. The ratings always go down during the summer becuase kids are out of school and want to go outside and play football or whatever. Once school gets bakc in session, the ratings will go back up. That's how it always was and always will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 31, 2002 becuase kids are out of school and want to go outside and play football or whatever. 9-11 at night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Well, a good deal of them are probably die-hard WCW fans who were completely turned off by the Vince-heavy final Nitro and/or the complete burial of the WCW guys signed by the WWE during the Invasion storyline. Well, 2.5 million WCW fans is kind of a difficult thing to lose, but even when most everybody gave up on WCW (such as in 2000), WWF still had a good thing going. Watching the Best of Raw tape shocks me at how jam packed these arenas are. Even the camera can barely see for signs. Although, watching the Foley "you guys chanted for Austin and not me" speech makes me realize how small these arenas actually were (nosebleed seats? There ARE NO nosebleed seats!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Screw those fans who aren't watching anymore. Good Riddance. Cater to us for once and just keep pushing the "Vanilla" Wrestlers like Benoit, Storm, Eddie, etc, to the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Screw those fans who aren't watching anymore. Good Riddance. Cater to us for once and just keep pushing the "Vanilla" Wrestlers like Benoit, Storm, Eddie, etc, to the top. Yeah. With Vince's money, we could get to see the unpopular Smark Favorites in main events for maybe as long as 8 months before the company goes bankrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Well, there are popular smark favorites (Booker, RVD, Angle-heel wise) that could be pushed to the top and help some of the less over guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Back when the WWE had great ratings, was when wrestling was the "in" thing to watch. In other words, it was a fad. During that fad, the WWE gained fans, and also lost the fans that tuned in just because it was the "in" thing to watch. I can honestly say I don't think we'll see ratings jump as high as they were back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair Report post Posted July 31, 2002 To increase the ratings they need something new not the same old guys holding the title someone that hasn't held the title before and is over with the fan's someone who can get a good match out of guys like Taker I think that man is Say it with Me Rob Van Dam!!!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Yes we know this about the ratings and the fad...the "experts" know it also. But Vince knowing and accepting it is what should scare us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Screw those fans who aren't watching anymore. Good Riddance. Cater to us for once and just keep pushing the "Vanilla" Wrestlers like Benoit, Storm, Eddie, etc, to the top. Yeah. With Vince's money, we could get to see the unpopular Smark Favorites in main events for maybe as long as 8 months before the company goes bankrupt. Beniot was over before he got hurt so don't assume that Beniot can't get over. Eddie could also get over easily IF they stopped making him be Latino Heat. If they just let Eddy be the cocky prick that he's good at being instead of being a stereotype he'd get over. And now the trendy fans are gone and the remaining crowds who aren't here because it's cool would accept guys like Beniot faster then those trendy idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Wrestling won't reach 8.3 ratings again. That was the absolute PEAK of wrestling's popularity. It was a fad amongst High Schoolers but now Wrestling's "GAY". It's the cycle of life. Come 2008 Wrestling will reboom for my Kid's generation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Dude, the ratings aren't going to go up, regardless of the quality of the shows....face it, wrestling had its moment--several years, really--and it ain't "cool" anymore. Bring on slamball. kidding. I completely agree... I just wish someone in the WWE would realize this and "get a clue" so to speak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Eddie's already pretty over and Benoit, well, has had nothing in the way of character development since he's come back except for the Austin thing (and we know how that panned out) so it's still too early to pass judgment on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 4Life Report post Posted July 31, 2002 The following is from 1wrestling... "The ratings for Monday night are in and Raw scored a 3.7 cable rating, with a 6.1 share, according to Nielsen Media Research. The show did hours of 3.4 and 4.0. The number is down from the 4.3 that they did last week. It appears now that last week's rating spike was due more to people wanting to know what happened at the Vengeance PPV than it being the first sign in a rebirth in the audience. As you will remember, until the last few months the post PPV Raw was usually good for a half point spike in the ratings. It appears that is what drove the Raw rating up last week." ...now before some of you go out and say such things as WWE is shutting down, Eric Bishoff will now be fired, or other such dribble, remember that last week was after a PPV. Myself, and many of you, expected last RAW to go up a bit because of the PPV, then fall a bit this week, and THEN we will begin to see a true "rise" in viewership. There is ONE wrench in all of this however... ...We must look at the week BEFORE the post-PPV RAW last week, which pulled in a 3.8. Now that is a .1 drop, so that confuses me. I suppose like I said above, we must wait for the future to really say. Anyhow, I just thought you might want to know all of this! Sincerely, ...Downhome... Wow! Thanks. I feel so much better. Without your comfort, I don't know what we would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites