Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 3, 2002 Debatable all day. Superior song writing doesn't always create something successful. Tommy and Quadrophenia are successful, but how many people know songs from the albums as well as they know Satisfaction... or even Shattered? The closest the Who can probably come to recognition is My Generation and then the Stones can offer up Jumpin Jack Flash. Writing is half the struggle. Recognition is the other. Pet Sounds is one of the most musically perfect albums ever made. And it did crap on the charts. it's not about who was more successful, it's about who best embodies the spirit of rock & roll. success doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it. Musicianship is a plus when we're talking about band quality. But this thread is moreso about band recognition. So, I don't think that statement carries much weight here. i think talent embodies the spirit of rock & roll much more than recognition. if the opposite were true, whitney houston would be more rock & roll than lou reed. And the Stones were? Jumpin' Jack Flash was a step in another direction (supposedly - I don't much see it myself, though). And then there's Gimme Shelter. The vast majority of bands try something to keep their monetary livelihoods afloat. Queen tried a bit of disco. The Beatles went hippie as did the Beach Boys. Even the Ventures changed styles to try and keep pace with the times. the stones tried things that THEY didn't normally do. they rarely went beyond the boundaries of that simple, blues-based rock. the who tried things that NOBODY had done. And if education is a tangible argument, all four members of Queen have degrees: Roger Taylor - biology, Freddie Mercury - art, John Deacon - electronics, and Brian May - a thesis short of a doctorate (not just the standard bachelor's degree) in physics. Townshend and Jagger (or Richards) both attended Ealing Art School. But this thread ain't an argument over intelligence. i said smarter, not more educated. there is a difference. they're listed in the guiness book of world records as the loudest band ever Whoop-di-doo. That's great. yeah, cause god knows that rock & roll has nothing whatsoever to do with being loud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 3, 2002 I find "Paint It Black" and "Sympathy For The Devil" to be better rock n' roll songs than anything The Who has ever done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 3, 2002 corey i respect your opinion, and even though I love both of those stones songs, i can't find any stones songs that can be as good as We Won't Get Fooled Again for a kick ass loud heavy rock n roll song. oh and dog, don't forget most people died at a who concert too...which that is also in the guiness book of world records Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 3, 2002 corey i respect your opinion, and even though I love both of those stones songs, i can't find any stones songs that can be as good as We Won't Get Fooled Again for a kick ass loud heavy rock n roll song. oh and dog, don't forget most people died at a who concert too...which that is also in the guiness book of world records haha, yup...and the white album probably holds the world record for 'album inspiring the most murders'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 3, 2002 yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
