Guest MrRant Report post Posted August 7, 2002 It's the bloodbath celluloid teenagers have been dreading for years. New Line Cinema has finally given the go-ahead to Freddy vs. Jason, the studio's long-planned but long-stalled match-up of modern-day horror icons Freddy Krueger of Nightmare on Elm Street fame and Friday the 13th's Jason Vorhees. Robert Englund will reprise his Freddy alter ego for the eighth time in the project, which will also star Brad Renfro (best known as the kid from The Client), according to Daily Variety. No word on who will don the hockey mask for Jason, a role essayed by several actors in the past, most recently Kane Hodder. New Line has tapped Hong Kong director Ronny Yu (Bride of Chucky) to helm the gory goings-on, which reportedly will revolve around Renfro trying to stay alive after getting caught between the two slash-happy ghouls as they duel to the un-death. The battle royale, which should give new meaning to the term "faceoff," has been on the drawing board for nearly a decade. Ever since New Line secured the rights to the Friday the 13th franchise in 1993, the studio has tried to put two of the most successful (in terms of bloodletting and box office) movie maniacs on the same screen together. (The studio released all seven Nightmare flicks.) It will be the eighth cinematic foray for the Fedora-wearing, Ginsu-gloved Freddy Krueger. Krueger boasts an impressive history of terror, having killed countless teens as a high school janitor before being burned to a crisp by a vindictive PTA. He first returned to haunt the dreams of sleeping adolescents in 1984's A Nightmare on Elm Street and eventually went on to star in six sequels, the last of which was 1994's Wes Craven's New Nightmare. While going for maximum body count, Freddy will encounter some seriously stiff competition in that mute undead killing machine otherwise known as Jason. Best known for stalking sexually active teens at summer camps throughout the '80s, Jason has technically wielded the sharp objects in the series' nine sequels (his mom drew first blood in 1980's original Friday the 13th). His blood lust has taken him from Camp Crystal Lake to Hades (1993's Jason Goes to Hell) and even outer space (this year's Jason X). Such franchise monster bouts have long been movie fodder, going as far back as 1942's Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. In the intervening years we've seen 1963's King Kong vs. Godzilla, 1964's Godzilla vs. Mothra, 1966's Billy the Kid vs. Dracula, 1971's Frankenstein vs. Dracula and 1979's Kramer vs. Kramer (okay, maybe not that last one). In fact, New Line's announcement of Freddy vs. Jason comes just weeks after 20th Century Fox announced its own monster smackdown, Alien vs. Predator. The most-anticipated of the recently green-lighted franchise showdowns is Warner Bros.' Superman vs. Batman, a project being prepped by Wolfgang Petersen in which the rival crimefighters BUTT heads after battling evil. New Line will try to beat its rivals to theaters by beginning production on Freddy vs. Jason before the others. Cameras are slated to roll September 9 in Vancouver for a 2003 release. Yeah Baby... I will definetly see this just for the sheer mark out value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 7, 2002 His blood lust has taken him from Camp Crystal Lake to Hades (1993's Jason Goes to Hell) and even outer space (this year's Jason X). Don't forget New York! Such franchise monster bouts have long been movie fodder, going as far back as 1942's Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. In the intervening years we've seen 1963's King Kong vs. Godzilla, 1964's Godzilla vs. Mothra, 1966's Billy the Kid vs. Dracula, 1971's Frankenstein vs. Dracula and 1979's Kramer vs. Kramer (okay, maybe not that last one). I'm insulted you haven't mentioned 1993's Dollman vs. Demonic Toys Anyway, all jokes aside, onto my true feelings... I shudder to think of how disappointing this will be. I mean, it's been rumored for over a decade, you can't get higher expectations than that! I'm sure it'll have enjoyable moments (like Jason X), but on the whole be just another unnecessary, disappointing sequel. But then, if it weren't another unnecessary, disappointing sequel, it wouldn't be a franchise film! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 7, 2002 The main difference: Ronny Yu. Not only did he do the unfairly overlooked Bride Of Chucky, but he also did the awesome-movie-crippled-by-a-lousy-premise silk purse from a sow's ear known as Warriors Of Virtue, plus both of the great Bride With White Hair flicks. This is gonna fuckin' rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 7, 2002 The main difference: Ronny Yu. Not only did he do the unfairly overlooked Bride Of Chucky, but he also did the awesome-movie-crippled-by-a-lousy-premise silk purse from a sow's ear known as Warriors Of Virtue, plus both of the great Bride With White Hair flicks. This is gonna fuckin' rock. While I admit to not having seen any of Yu's other movies, Bride of Chucky was a comedy, and I don't think Freddy vs. Jason is supposed to be, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 7, 2002 Who knows? It's not like anyone these days takes these characters seriously anyway. Either way, I have faith in Yu's abilities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 7, 2002 Hopefully it will live up to the hype. Seeing Freddy take on Jason should be a riot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted August 7, 2002 Man... I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted August 7, 2002 To quote FARK.COM "Hollywood has run out of ideas" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted August 7, 2002 *Currently marking out* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NotSuper Report post Posted August 7, 2002 Mario "The Taskmaster" Logan is going to LOVE this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 8, 2002 "Hollywood has run out of ideas" Actually, this is a cool idea, and one that has been popular for over a decade. Remaking something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre can be applied to that line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Next they will have: Dracula vs. Frankenstein vs. Wolfman vs. Freddy vs. Jason vs. Micheal Myers IN A 6 MAN HELL IN A CELL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Next they will have: Dracula vs. Frankenstein vs. Wolfman vs. Freddy vs. Jason vs. Micheal Myers IN A 6 MAN HELL IN A CELL! What about the Zuni Fetish Doll vs. Chucky vs. Blade vs. Puppet (from NWA:TNA) in a Fatal Four-Way Hardcore Midget Elimination Match? Anyway, back on topic, it's going to be "normal" Jason, not Robo-Mecha-Uber-Jason (much as that would be enjoyable too in a different context), right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I'd like to see Jason vs. Predator...know how fucking awful that would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted August 8, 2002 If Jason vs Freddy ends up into one of those movies where the fights end up looking like they used wire work, I will mark out big time. Bride with White Hair is one of my favorite movies by Ronnie Ru but not every Hong Kong director can cross over as successful as John Woo. where is Predator vs Alien? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Prototype450 Report post Posted August 18, 2002 3 things wrong with that movie. Freddy Got killed in the real world twice. Freddy only exist in dreams (correct me if I'm wrong) Jason went to HELL for God's sakes. But hey, since when has Hollywood used logic like us little people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted August 18, 2002 3 things wrong with that movie. Freddy Got killed in the real world twice. Freddy only exist in dreams (correct me if I'm wrong) Jason went to HELL for God's sakes. But hey, since when has Hollywood used logic like us little people? But it was Freddy's hand that pulled him down to hell. Maybe they will fight in hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Freddy only exist in dreams (correct me if I'm wrong) Dammit Josh you beat me to the claw pulling him into hell one! For this one, maybe the film takes place while Freddy was still alive, before he was a super-vile demon dream guy. However, I heard a rumor about the film that I hope isn't true... Freddy vs Jason begins shooting in Vancouver on September 9, but it appears that longtime Jason actor Kane Hodder will NOT be reprising his role in the eagerly awaited grudge match. Both New Line and a distraught Hodder himself tell Fango Magazine that the production has been auditioning other performers all week to take over the role, including Halloween: Resurrection's Michael Myers, Brad Loree. So why is the studio passing on Hodder, who has kept the character alive for the past 14 years and has emerged as a hero to Jason fans? Both the actor and an anonymous New Line executive tell Fango that the production has “rethought” the character to make Jason both more sympathetic and a closer physical match to opponent Freddy (Robert Englund, who has signed on). I suppose they want a 100 pound Jason? To get an idea of what the filmmakers have in mind, the new Jason casting breakdown calls for an actor “who can emote pain and anguish over the loss of a loved one… [we’re looking for] someone with poetic eyes.” The idea is to make Jason a “sad, pathetic, Phantom of the Opera-type character,” says a New Line source. Though Hodder has met with director Ronny Yu, he admits that the production wants a “different body type” for the film. New Line, which expects to decide on its Jason star by this weekend, insists that Hodder is still being considered for his dream gig. (credit: Website 9 From Outer Space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Well...this is great to hear seeing as i've been looking forward to the movie for a long time. HOWEVER, i won't fully believe it until i see pictures of the filming or the trailer of the movie. Well i kinda hope that they do something that spins off from the end of Jason 9. The one thing that would make the movie even better is if Pinhead destroyed both at the end...in hell. But that'll never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I actually like the idea of Jason as a "sad, pathetic, Phantom of the Opera-type character". It would at least be an attempt at something different, and I'd like to see if Yu could make it that sucker fly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I actually like the idea of Jason as a "sad, pathetic, Phantom of the Opera-type character". It would at least be an attempt at something different, and I'd like to see if Yu could make it that sucker fly. I like the character, but I don't like Jason as that character. They might as well just make it a new character... as it really doesn't have any logical basis in Jason's character in ANY of his previous films to just suddenly have remorse and other feelings all of a sudden. Maybe if it was gradually built to over the other films, or even the course of the film I could buy it, but as it is, it just doesn't sound right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted August 18, 2002 It came be summed up real nice. Freddy vs Jason is something people have looked forward to for years. So give us Freddy vs Jason! Not Freddy vs the Phantom of the Opera! By completely changing Jason we're no longer getting Freddy vs Jason. We're getting Freddy vs a completely different Jason. I wanna see the battle between the real Freddy and Jason. Robert Englund vs Kane Hodder. That's the only way it should be and it should be the characters we've known for years. Not new ones. They're not only changing Jason's "personality" or whatever. They're also redesigning BOTH character's looks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BorneAgain Report post Posted August 18, 2002 There was a Jason vs Freddy script I read somewhere. Didn't finish it, but from what I read it wasn't too bad. Of course the script they use for the movie may be completly different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 18, 2002 If they plan to change both characters looks, and not have Kane Hodder return as Jason, chances are this movie will suck ass. Obviously 99% of the audience for this film will be die hard fans, so why screw up the characters to try and make them appeal to a new audience that won't pay money to see it anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Well maybe...it's the in hell version of Freddy and Jason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Problem is, one of them has to be the hero, or at least an anti-hero. Freddy is disqualified automatically for being a child molester. So that leaves Jason, and you have to do some work on his character to make him the least bit sympathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BorneAgain Report post Posted August 19, 2002 In that script I was talking about, it said that apparently Freddy screwed with Jason when he was a kid, and that may be partially respondsible for why Jason turned into a murderer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted August 19, 2002 In that script I was talking about, it said that apparently Freddy screwed with Jason when he was a kid, and that may be partially respondsible for why Jason turned into a murderer Yea, there have been several scripts floating around over the years... to my knowledge none of them were accepted, nor even have elements of them being accepted, due to them all being so drastically different. I read the intro of one once that involved some medieval knights running into a cave with Freddy's claw or some crap like that... weird stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Here is some help with logic gaps. 1. Wes Craven's New Nightmare established that the first six films were films, even in the "movie world" for lack of better term, so throw any continuity from Parts 1-6 out the window. 2. Freddy was killed in the dream world in New Nightmare. 3. Jason X is 500 years in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Dude, don't even try. Both series have fucked up their own continuity on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
