Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 8, 2002 self-explanatory. add your own, discuss, argue. 5. steven spielberg--i do think he's legitimately one of the greatest directors ever, but he's on the list for all the praise he's getting NOW. i read a lot of people saying he's at his peak, but he peaked in 1993 with 'schindler's list' and 'jurassic park' (his most critically and financially successful films, respectively). his last 3 features ('saving private ryan', 'a.i.' and 'minority report') have been good, but horribly overrated and tainted with a sappiness that almost ruins the seriousness of the work he's doing. 4. sam mendes--he's made one really good movie and one moderately good movie that looked great. he's not the second coming of christ, and he's not the next big thing. 'american beauty' was not one of the best movies of the 90s. it wasn't even the best movie of 1999. 'road to perdition' didn't seem to have any feature to distinguish itself except its overblown sense of importance (similar to 'american beauty'). 3. peter jackson--god i wish the hollywood media would stop sucking this guy's cock. he's a pretty talented director with low-brow taste. that's it, nothing more. he didn't impress me with his more 'personal' early movies ('bad taste', 'dead alive', 'meet the feebles'), and they just weren't that funny. 'lord of the rings' didn't do much to impress me either, it honestly seemed like a glorified hack job to me. he was like michael bay with all the 3-millisecond shots. 2. francis ford coppola--yes, he made 3 great movies in as many years. but after that he got caught up in his own importance (which culminated in that most overrated of "classics," 'apocalypse now'), and after THAT he's basically been a hack. what important movies has he made since the 70s? hell, what unique films has he made since the 70s? at least 'apocalypse now' was interesting, now he's making undistinguishable studio movies like 'jack' and 'the rainmaker'. either he's run out of things to say, or he never had anything to say & he just got lucky a few times. 1. jean-luc godard--what the hell is so special about this guy? he literally rode into the business on the coattails of his friends, and i have yet to see anything truly original in any of his work. oh, except the jump cuts. god did he ever love jump cuts. 'breathless' was too formulaic to be original, and to slow to be fun to watch. and somehow this was the best film of the french new wave, which also sprang up 'the 400 blows'? and what i've seen of his other movies is even more boring. 'band of outsiders' made me want to shoot myself with all its pretentiousness, i couldn't even get through all of it. so how is this man considered the greatest director alive? how, dammit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Can I just vote for Speilberg 5 times? Please? I can't STAND him. Other people I think are overrated: Tim Burton...now I love Batman and Ed Wood is one of my all time favorites...but what the hell happened to him? Mars Attacks? Planet of the Apes? WHATTHEFUCK? David Lynch...Until I understand what the fuck you are doing without cliffs notes...you get a failing grade with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Can I just vote for Speilberg 5 times? Please? I can't STAND him. Other people I think are overrated: Tim Burton...now I love Batman and Ed Wood is one of my all time favorites...but what the hell happened to him? Mars Attacks? Planet of the Apes? WHATTHEFUCK? David Lynch...Until I understand what the fuck you are doing without cliffs notes...you get a failing grade with me. oh shit...i forgot about tim burton, the glorified hack/poor man's terry gilliam, who tries to cover up for his total lack of interest in characters & plot with cool-looking sets. his 'personal vision' consists of cool-looking sets and semi-interesting photography. he's tony scott with a cult following. if i weren't so lazy, i'd paste that rant in place of spielberg, but i'll just let it stand here. and i think lynch is a genius. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I didn't say he wasn't. He's too smart for me. SO HE MUST PAY!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 No one, I mean no one makes "The Godfather" because they just 'get lucky' you got me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted August 8, 2002 In no particular order: Ron Howard (I dont see the big deal about him) Kevin Cosnar (no WAY he should have beatin Martin 'God' Scorsese for best director) Woody Allen Steven Speilberg Rob Reiner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted August 8, 2002 You can't call Francis Ford Coppola overrated because hardly anyone thinks he's made any good movies since the 70s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LexLugerRules Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Kevin Smith is overrated to a certain extend. I think he is a better writer then director. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I'll agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Tim Burton Brian DePalma Ridley Scott Oliver Stone (yeah, you heard me) George Lucas EDIT: Yeah, I just had to switch out Woody Allen for George Lucas. How the hell did he slip my mind the first time through? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LexLugerRules Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I really like Oliver Stone. I loved Any Given Sunday, that movie made me wanna run outside and tackle someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted August 8, 2002 George Lucas of Star Wars fame, what has he done besides the most overhyped sci fi movie ever? American Graffiti, THX 1138, Indiana Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 ooh...I second George Lucas. The only two Star Wars movies I liked were the two he didn't direct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LexLugerRules Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Reason why Star Wars i hyped is because it opened the gate for movie graphics. At the time then, their graphics is comparable to what Jurassic Park did for our generation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I know that Lucas is a graphical genius, but his special effects take a life of its own becoming more of a distraction to the movie than just enhancement. The scripts of the last 2 Star Wars Movies were subpar at best. Industrial Light & Magic, his special effects company is probably the best in the world. But without these special effects his movies would be glorified made for tv movie of the week material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted August 8, 2002 my god....SOMEBODY DISSED KEVIN SMITH! DIE YOU LUGAR MARK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Ron-Howard. He-is-the-definition-of"Overrated" Someone-tell-me-what's-the-big-hype-about him. "My-Name-Is-Willie........Willie-Beamen" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I know that Lucas is a graphical genius, but his special effects take a life of its own becoming more of a distraction to the movie than just enhancement. The scripts of the last 2 Star Wars Movies were subpar at best. He's not really much of an inspiration for his actors either. *points at Hayden Christiansen* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Woody Allen David Lynch x 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Finally, someone agrees w/ me on Ron Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest shlidgn90 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 here are my top 5 (in no particular order): 1. ron howard: this guy made it because he has friends in high places. all of his best movies are can't miss scripts that are done with a paint by numbers format. 2. guy ritchie: this guy is a no talent mimbo. look at his credentials, snatch was the same movie of his first release. his first movie was nothing but a bad knockoff of old brittish gangster films. 3. richard linkletter: dazed and confused was really good. but all the rest of his movies are really pretentious. movies that are made for a particular group should never go over their heads. slacker, in my view, was nothing but a waste of film. 4. steven soderbergh: he has only made two original movies- traffic and sex lies and videotape. the rest of his movies are basically the same crime story pattern over and over. wouldn't be as big if tarrantino made movies much more frequent. 5.melvin van peebles: this guy considers himself to be an revolutionary toward black filmaking. he has made only one movie which was nothing but a stereotyped view on veterans. the reason that he is listed because he continually takes shots at current black filmaker for not standing up to studios. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 8, 2002 here are my top 5 (in no particular order): 1. ron howard: this guy made it because he has friends in high places. all of his best movies are can't miss scripts that are done with a paint by numbers format. 2. guy ritchie: this guy is a no talent mimbo. look at his credentials, snatch was the same movie of his first release. his first movie was nothing but a bad knockoff of old brittish gangster films. 3. richard linkletter: dazed and confused was really good. but all the rest of his movies are really pretentious. movies that are made for a particular group should never go over their heads. slacker, in my view, was nothing but a waste of film. 4. steven soderbergh: he has only made two original movies- traffic and sex lies and videotape. the rest of his movies are basically the same crime story pattern over and over. wouldn't be as big if tarrantino made movies much more frequent. 5.melvin van peebles: this guy considers himself to be an revolutionary toward black filmaking. he has made only one movie which was nothing but a stereotyped view on veterans. the reason that he is listed because he continually takes shots at current black filmaker for not standing up to studios. 1. yup, he is indeed overrated. he does nothing to stand out as a director, he just knows how to make a good script. 2. although i HATE ritchie's "let me see how many seizures i can cause" visual style, i think he's a pretty good writer and knows how to keep things interesting. 3. i loooooove linklater and his dialogue-heavy style, partly because of my love for 'my dinner with andre' and partly because it's how my friends and i talk. i didn't find 'waking life' pretentious at all. 4. soderbergh i think has a ton of talent, and i give him mad props for being able to pull off 2 completely different kinds of movies ('erin brockovich' & 'traffic') so beautifully in the same year. 5. can't really call him overrated, cause i've never really heard any serious praise for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted August 8, 2002 my god....SOMEBODY DISSED KEVIN SMITH! DIE YOU LUGAR MARK! kevin smith IS overrated, especially after the unfunny masturbation exercise that was 'jay & silent bob strike back'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Yeah, I pretty much can't stomach Kevin Smith, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted August 8, 2002 In no order after the first... George Lucas Ron Howard Michael Bay Steven Soderbergh Mel Brooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I'm just going to say flat-out that I fucking hate Paul Anderson. Okay, I can enjoy his movies slightly, but aside from Event Horizon, his movies can just be considered guilty pleasures. And Event Horizon was just TOO cool of a plot, with too good of a cast (Sam Neil AND Laurence Fishburne), to fuck up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I'm just going to say flat-out that I fucking hate Paul Anderson. Okay, I can enjoy his movies slightly, but aside from Event Horizon, his movies can just be considered guilty pleasures. And Event Horizon was just TOO cool of a plot, with too good of a cast (Sam Neil AND Laurence Fishburne), to fuck up. I wouldn't consider Paul Anderson an "overrated" director, because no one considers him a great director in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Strike Force! Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I don't have just five. David Fincher: Loved and adores by the internet fanboy set, but IMO, he's only made one good movie. Ron Howard: Makes as many average movies as he does good movies. He's alright though Brian DePalma: What was his last good movie? Michael Bay: Nobody puts out a crapfest like Michael Bay, yet the box office loves him. David Lynch: See David Fincher minus the part about one good movie. Mel Brooks: You see, he was funny back in 1961. Or at least, he was supposed to be. I wouldn't know. That's the crap that gets fed to me by the Hollywood critic old guard. Woody Allen: See Mel Brooks, except substitute the year 1961 for the year 1977. And the most overrated director is...... ....James Cameron. You and your one trick pony movies make me want to puke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted August 8, 2002 I don't know too many directors... As a result of his recent crop of films, I'll just vote Spielberg four times, and Tim Burton once. Burton's got pretty movies. But most of them kinda suck. Spielberg's last few movies have ranged from "Eh, it was pretty good" (AI) to "Horrible Waste of Space" (Minority Report). Even though this is going back a bit, "Jurassic Park" was fun, but not particularly good. Aside from "Saving Private Ryan", which was an excellent movie, I can't think of much else he's done to deserve the acclaim he gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted August 8, 2002 Oliver Stone, in my opinion, sucks. His movies are complete shit, and he believes his own hype. Disagree if you want, I don't care. I just hate him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites