Homosexual rape.

[Guest TheDames7]

On the way home today, I heard on the radio talk about perpetrators of homosexual rape receiving harsher sentences than those convicted of heterosexual rape. Is this a case of equal rights being thrown out the window? Is a harsher sentence justified? Should this even be an issue?

 

Discuss.

 

Dames

[Guest Nevermortal]

I guess they figured that a penis is meant to go in a vagina, but not in a man's ass, so they weighed it accordingly...

 

Or something...

[Guest J*ingus]

There shouldn't be any difference in sentencing. Sexual assault is sexual assault, regardless of which orifice was penetrated.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

More "sin" legislation, like the cigarette tax...

[Guest LooseCannon]

I have too many questions, about not only the circumstances of the cases that led to these sentencing disparities but also about whether or not judges or juries handed out the sentences, to form an opinion on this.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Yeah, on second thoughts, LC is right. There might've been aggravating circumstances in one particular case, and it might not have set a precedent based on sexual orientation. I'll retract my earlier comments and reserve judgement until I see something more on this.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

Hmm, people doing homosexual rapes should love the fact that they would be going into an institution where that practice is commonplace.

[Guest J*ingus]

That actually kinda ties into a fantasy of mine that I had about the guy who shot my dad. I hoped that when he got to Leavenworth, he was tossed into a cell with a 400-pound black guy named Bubba.

 

"So, what're you in here for, Bubba?"

 

"Sodomy."

 

(long silence)

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

I once had a health class, where a guest speaker talking about rape was speaking to the class. She told us about a class she had talked to before, where she told a story. She told them that, once upon a time, a young lady of teenage...age....was talking to a real popular football playing type at some high school like party. You know. Anyway, she's flirting, he's flirting, and now it's the end of the event, and he offers to walk her home. Next thing you know, he's forcing her behind the bushes. (Note: This is the condensed tale.) She asked the class if the girl was totally responsible, partially, slightly, or not. Out of the 30+ guys there, only 4 said she was not responsible, with the majority saying she was partially or totally responsible. Later that week, she repeated the exact same story, even had a football player offender, except now it was a teenage guy. Out of the 30+ guys, all but one said that the raped boy wasn't responsible. And the other one only said partially. What does that tell you?

[Guest J*ingus]

It tells me that you've got a bunch of idiots for classmates. How did they not notice the same question being put to them twice in the same week?

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

I dunno. Not my class, it was an example about the different views on rape. Of course, it was a health class, and for the most part, excuse me if I offend someone, they tend to be rife with idiots. Oh, and that was my first post. Oh yea.

[Guest Some Guy]

I think the punishments should be equal, but in many ways I think a man being raped by another man would be worse than man raping a woman.

I imagine it would hurt a lot more if you are a straight guy getting raped, you'd be robbed of your manhood, and have to go get stitches. Doesn't sound like fun to me.

[Guest EricMM]

I imagine it would hurt a lot more if you are a straight guy getting raped, you'd be robbed of your manhood, and have to go get stitches. Doesn't sound like fun to me.

 

While nothing in your statement is untrue, it must be hard on women, strait women, who get raped, and then have to somehow revert back to some normal view of sex when they someday get with the person they love. Rape messes everyone up. It should be equal IMO.

 

*EDIT* Actually, I missed the more part. The doesn't sound like fun part is true tho. *EDIT*

[Guest Cancer Marney]

"Robbed of your manhood?" How awful. Well, I'm convinced. A raped woman isn't robbed of her "womanhood." Heck, she should take aggravated assault and battery as a compliment. Someone loved her enough to risk going to prison in order to have sex with her! Wow!

 

</eyeroll>

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

As for the male to male rape hurting more, what's to say that rapist wouldn't rape a woman in such a way that would require stiches? I think that the whole homophobic society type thing would have us believe that men are hurt worse because of being "robbed of manhood." However, it's the same with a man as a woman, it's dehumanizing. It's not a man becoming less of a man, or a woman becoming less of a woman, but a person turned into an object.

[Guest hardyz1]

<flamebait>

 

Because women are inferior to men

 

</flamebait>

 

This post not meant to be taken seriously...

[Guest Retro Rob]

Rape is rape no matter who it happens to. Although, I can understand how some men might consider homosexual rape to be worse. It all stems back to homophobia and the male ego, but in the end all rapists whether straight or gay should be held to the same consequences.

[Guest LooseCannon]

<flamebait>

 

Because women are inferior to men

 

</flamebait>

 

This post not meant to be taken seriously...

okay, but please make your next joke funny.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I can't really speak on whether a woman being raped by a man is worse than a man being raped by a woman, but I think it would be worse if I was raped by a man than if I was raped by a woman.

[Guest LooseCannon]

I've been sexually assaulted, but not raped, by a woman before. It was an annoyance that was simultaneously rather gratifying to the ego. (Before anyone starts cracking wise, she was a rather hefty unnattracive woman with an equally unattractive personality, and I really did not enjoy it at all when she suddenly put her tongue in my mouth and began groping me.) If a man were to do the same thing, I'd probably be much more pissed about it.

[Guest DrEvil]

I have too many questions, about not only the circumstances of the cases that led to these sentencing disparities but also about whether or not judges or juries handed out the sentences, to form an opinion on this.

That's what I was wondering. Are these all equal assault and have intercourse cases, or are there some date-rape instances put in as well. Any kind of rape is emotionally scaring, date-rape could actually be worse because of the element of broken trust, but the disparity could be because of the additional assault charges in the case. I know if some guy was trying to rape me, he'd have to beat the hell out of me to accomplish it.

 

I hoped that when he got to Leavenworth, he was tossed into a cell with a 400-pound black guy named Bubba.

One of my favourite shows was Vengeance Unlimited where a guy would seek vengeance on unpunished crimes. In one episode, he framed a couple of rapists and got them sent to prison. The episode ended with a dozen skinheads walking into the showers with "MMMMMN, Fresh meat" smiles on their faces, and the song "It's raining men" playing. I haven't been able to hear that song since without thinking of that scene.

[Guest Some Guy]

"Robbed of your manhood?" How awful. Well, I'm convinced. A raped woman isn't robbed of her "womanhood." Heck, she should take aggravated assault and battery as a compliment. Someone loved her enough to risk going to prison in order to have sex with her! Wow!

 

</eyeroll>

Marney I didn't mean that rape of a woman was meant to be taken as a compliment. I find rape of any kind ot be repugnent behavior. I'm aware that a woman being raped is an awlful experience, but from a man's point of wiew I think that a straight man being raped by a man would be worse. It's just an opinion.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Straight men don't get raped by women, they get lucky.

[Guest J*ingus]

It CAN happen, but it's pretty rare.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

Men raping men is an objective point of view.

Men raping women is an objective point of view leading towards subjective with cases of date rape and drugs.

Women raping women is subjective leading towards objective because people will think most women are "Bi" and no penatration so no rape.

Women raping men is totally subjective. Its only rape with the female is BUTT ugly and 200+ pounds.

 

My opinion: if the girl/guy says NO. its rape. No if ands or buts. They deserve 20 to life and put in a cell with bubba. Rape is major tramatic experence for whoever it hapens to. They won't like it no matter what. Women have it worse been raped by men because they could get knocked up. Then the whole have baby or abortion issue comes up.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

One of my friends has actually gotten raped by another guy before, so I'll just say it's not a good thing at all. He has weird nervousness issues since. We're talking things like flushing WHILE he pisses so "nobody can hear it." Uh.... O_o

[Guest red_file]

Women raping women is subjective leading towards objective because people will think most women are "Bi" and no penatration so no rape.

Women raping men is totally subjective. Its only rape with the female is BUTT ugly and 200+ pounds.

I recall a while back reading of a few instances where women had raped other women and men using strap-ons. In that type of scenario I think the subjectivity of what happened might be called into question. The fact that I haven't read about too many of these types of incidents might point to the fact that they are rare, or it might merely indicate that a rape victim would be less likely to come forward if their attacker was female.

[Guest J*ingus]

It is technically possible for a man to be physically aroused and ready to go even though he absolutely doesn't want to and wouldn't do it if he had the choice, it's happened once or twice if I remember correctly, but it's damn rare. Most instances of a female raping someone else involve some sort of penetration of the victim, either manually or with a foreign object.

[Guest MrRant]

It is technically possible for a man to be physically aroused and ready to go even though he absolutely doesn't want to and wouldn't do it if he had the choice, it's happened once or twice if I remember correctly, but it's damn rare. Most instances of a female raping someone else involve some sort of penetration of the victim, either manually or with a foreign object.

Personally I think anything going in to my ass foreign.

[Guest red_file]

Personally I think anything going in to my ass foreign.

Now that's not very open minded.