MrZsasz is a Brock-hating troll

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

It can't be just me but it just seems that MrZsasz uses EVERY post on the WWE board to bash Brock Lesnar, even if it's offtopic. Let me demonstrate this..

 

Me: "Mike Sanders leaving didn't really hurt WWE ratings that much"

Him: "Brock Lesnar sucks!"

 

or maybe this..

 

Me: "Hardcore Holly is boring, how is he still around?"

Him: "Brock Lesnar sucks"

 

hell.. I'd bet you could slash his post count in half if you eliminate all the posts where he bashes Lesnar. That just seems like an obcession of his.

 

MrZsasz will just have to live with the fact that Lesnar is winning the title in just 14 days

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Actually I never out and out said he sucked. I just said he was overrated and didn't deserve his main event spot so quickly into his career. That's the way I felt BEFORE joining this forum, and I really don't care what you think about it.

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

"Actually I never out and out said he sucked."

 

Yeah, but we figured out what you meant.

 

"I just said he was overrated and didn't deserve his main event spot so quickly into his career."

 

Yeah, that can be said. Still, the fact that you seem to bring it up just as a reply to me is annoying.

 

"That's the way I felt BEFORE joining this forum, and I really don't care what you think about it."

 

Whatever

[Guest Nevermortal]

No use complaining about the obvious, Lunatic.

[Guest bob_barron]

But Brock Lesnar does suck

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I used Brock Lesnar as an example in the Contracts threadb because of your pompous comments toward Mike Sanders, a brilliant promo man and a good worker.

 

FACT: When Brock was the focus of RAW the numbers were at thier lowest point in 5 years.

 

FACT: Brock Lesnar despite his work in OVW has shown nothing but boring "big-man" offense and it's no met with total and complete apathy.

 

FACT: Despite having the most hated manager in years in his corner, Brock is incapable of drawing heat.

 

FACT: Brock's match with The Rock is the least anticapated main event since HHH/Jericho.

 

FACT: Brock despite having only two monthes of experience and being the number five heel in terms of crowd heat is getting a title shot, simply because Vince has a big-man fetish.

[Guest alfdogg]

FACT: When Brock was the focus of RAW the numbers were at thier lowest point in 5 years.

Not true. Brock was never the "focus" of RAW. The nWo has been the focus of RAW ever since their arrival. He may have been the focus for the week or two between them disbanding and HHH arriving, but that's not long enough to give your argument any base.

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

FACT: When Brock was the focus of RAW the numbers were at thier lowest point in 5 years.

 

AlfDogg got that one.

 

FACT: Brock Lesnar despite his work in OVW has shown nothing but boring "big-man" offense and it's no met with total and complete apathy.

 

You ever thought that the WWE idiots are the ones telling him to tone down his offense because they aren't confident any WWE workers can take his moves?

 

FACT: Despite having the most hated manager in years in his corner, Brock is incapable of drawing heat.

 

Bullshit... Heyman is not the most hated manager in years. In fact, he's a reason why Brock isn't getting over. Heyman is plainly trying to put himself over constantly and then he tries to hog or snuff out Brock's heat. If it was up to me, I'd replace Paul Heyman with somebody who doesn't steal the heat of whoever he manages.

 

FACT: Brock's match with The Rock is the least anticapated main event since HHH/Jericho.

 

Usually facts have proof backing them up. You been talking to all the WWE fans to confirm that?

 

FACT: Brock despite having only two monthes of experience

 

Two months? Your memory is short, he's been in the company wrestling for 5 months (around the same time that Yokozuna was in before he won the title), and he's been wrestling for awhile. Even longer if you count his days as a Golden Gopher.

 

and being the number five heel in terms of crowd heat

 

Proof? do you have the names of the four guys who you think are getting more heat than him?

 

is getting a title shot, simply because Vince has a big-man fetish.

 

Vince does have a big man fetish, although he doesn't have one for making monster heels correctly.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Bullshit... Heyman is not the most hated manager in years. In fact, he's a reason why Brock isn't getting over. Heyman is plainly trying to put himself over constantly and then he tries to hog or snuff out Brock's heat. If it was up to me, I'd replace Paul Heyman with somebody who doesn't steal the heat of whoever he manages.

Thats bullshit.

 

Every opportunity Heyman gets he puts Brock over.

 

The "Brock isn't over" thing is bullshit too. He is over, as he gets a reaction. He's just not over enough to be a world champion.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Heyman is a heat sink. Between all his "I made ECW, I made RVD, I made Attitude, I made Stone Cold" shit and his obvious X-Pac heat, he's done nothing but drag Brock down. Brock's best crowd reactions have come from words he himself said, such as his promo on Angle where he basically shot Kurt down.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

I don't hate brock, but lesnarlunatic doesn't really have an argument going for him here. And You can't blame Heyman for Brock not being over.

[Guest y2jailbait]

Bullshit... Heyman is not the most hated manager in years. In fact, he's a reason why Brock isn't getting over. Heyman is plainly trying to put himself over constantly and then he tries to hog or snuff out Brock's heat. If it was up to me, I'd replace Paul Heyman with somebody who doesn't steal the heat of whoever he manages.

Thats bullshit.

 

Every opportunity Heyman gets he puts Brock over.

 

The "Brock isn't over" thing is bullshit too. He is over, as he gets a reaction. He's just not over enough to be a world champion.

THANK YOU! Im so tired of this Brock isnt over crap, he is, but world champ??????? Well, its not even like this is the worst thing ever to happen. It seems like your all going to explode because Vince McMahon is trying something that isnt the obvious. As some have said before, its Vince company, he'll do what he will with it, and as a loyal fan that i am, im gonna sit here and like it. Theres nothing i can do.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

First the Brock was the focus of RAW thing:

 

EVERY cable, web, and WWE preveiw talked about "Brock's quest for ruthless agression" not the sinking nWo.

 

Second Brock was given Heyman because the fans still HATE him after the InVasion thing. The first few times they appeared you could tell there was a lot of anti-Heyman heat. Also, the only time the Hardy's/Lesnar angle was fun was when Heyman was with Lita.

 

Brock's Experience: OVW and NCAA are COMPLETELY different from the WWE. I meant his experience HERE in the WWE. Right now he should be wrestling for the IC title at SS, not the World.

 

Your comments about the moveset may be true, but who cares? If they won't let him go then he's still boring as hell, no matter what he COULD do.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

Actually, yokozuna had HEAT. He beat up Duggan, Bret & Savage in about a month. 3 of the top faces at the time.

 

 

BTW, Yoko didn't have a REAL title reign til about his 8th month in WWF (his 2 minute reign at WM 9 is hilarious, maybe Hogan could do it to Brock)

 

And YOU blame people for bashing Brock everytime you say something. For some reason you bring up a Mr. HOGAN every time i say something.

[Rob E Dangerously]

I don't bring up Hogan everytime you say something, heck, I don't think I've ever replied to you. Hehe..

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

Is Lesnar over? Sorta.

 

However, I don't trust SD pops. Is he over enough to become World, much less IC champ? Not really. Are there more qualified guys for the spot? Definately.

 

That's what's making people so angry with Lesnar.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I also think this thread's title is unfair. A "troll" is someone who posts, "He sucks!" without giving any reasons. In every thread we've argued in I've given coherent reasons (even if you don't agree with them) to support my claims.

[Guest Ram]

Barely over or not, its a bad sign that he's only barely over after all the steam behind him.

 

Until he whips out a good match, he'll suck in my mind (and I assume a good majority of the fans, especially the before/after Austin wrestling and popularity thing. He wasn't over until he wrestled well. The same will be with Brock, unless he can't carry over his amateur background into a match. Then he amn well better have something under his sleeve, and the shooting starpress won't be enough.)

[Guest jester]

Is Lesnar over? Sorta.

 

However, I don't trust SD pops. Is he over enough to become World, much less IC champ? Not really. Are there more qualified guys for the spot? Definately.

 

That's what's making people so angry with Lesnar.

I think people are also mad because you probably could make Brock very over, it's just being handled wrong.

 

I remember when he first started doing run-ins, people were going on about how scary he looked and how easily he tossed around Rikishi...

 

The doubts started creeping in when all he was doing was run-ins. and didn't have an actual match.

 

When Heyman began cutting promos and Brock just stood there, that's when the "He's not over enough" stuff began.