Summerslam

[Guest humanoid92]

How do you guys see things playing out? Here's what I'm looking for:

 

- Cena over Eddie

 

Both deserve a spot on the card. Can be a really hot opener and is sure to be a good match. Give it ten minutes. Eddie can always get a win back later.

 

- Angle over Mysterio

 

Should be an interesting mix of styles. Will really help Rey get a rub but after this I hope they move Angle into some sort of meaningful program. Maybe one with the Rock or RVD (if Rob does move to Smackdown as rumored). Give it twelve minutes. Again, sure to be a good match.

 

- Undertaker over Test

 

Keep this one relatively short at eight minutes or so. Could be a decent power match but after Test got that big win in the tag match on Raw, Undertaker is sure to go over, so I'm not sure how much of an effect this will have on the long-term.

 

- IC Title: Benoit over RVD

 

The likely match of the night. Benoit should go over to continue his strong ascent to the top. I don't want to see RVD job yet again, but maybe it's time he drop the IC Title chase and move on up into some main event caliber programs. The only way I'd want to see Benoit lose is if they're ready to move him up into a feud with the Rock. Give this match a solid sixteen minutes. Depending on how much time it's given, this one could hit anywhere from **** to *****

 

- Tag Team Titles: Christian & Storm over Booker & Goldust

 

Can be a really energetic tag match. Give it thirteen minutes or so. I see these four working really well together. Give the UnAmericans the victory. Booker and Goldie don't need the Tag Titles. Pair Booker off into a feud with an HHH or Jericho after this one.

 

- Michaels over HHH

 

Not sure how this one will play out. Who knows what Michaels will be able to do? Probably a lot of garbage brawling, but you'd think they'd know how to tell a good story without putting Shawn's back at risk too much. Give it sixteen or seventeen minutes. Total crapshoot that could easily range anywhere from ** to ****

 

- Jericho over Flair

 

Just do a classic type old school wrestling match that Flair is famous for. He may not be able to produce classics anymore, but with someone like Jericho in there, I'm sure they can hit **** just by working off one of Flair's formulas. Jericho goes over but I'm not sure how much that means anymore. The big problem with the way the WWE has used Flair and Hogan this year is that they lose to EVERYONE. I agree that they should be used to put people over, but when they lose every match it kind of defeats the purpose. They should have built up their credibility again by giving them some big wins (I guess they have done this on a few occasions- Flair over Eddie and Hogan over HHH... but that's about it) and then jobbing them to a select number of people who could then really benefit from it. Imagine if Angle had been the only one to beat Hogan as he did or if Jericho was one of the only ones to be able to pin Flair... but instead they've been jobbed out to everyone imaginable.

 

- Undisputed Title: Rocky over Lesnar

 

I know everyone has Brock penciled in for the win here, but I think the WWE is smart enough to realize it's going to fail. I support them for the idea of making new stars, but there's at least five other guys that would be fresh on top and could fare far better than Brock at this point. Put The Rock over here. Brock can still be a monster- he still worked his way into the Summerslam main event four months after debuting- he just didn't quite make it to that #1 spot. There are three other heels that I think would work well as Champion right now, those being Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, and Chris Jericho- if the Rock must leave, put one of them in a program with him and have them go over for the Title next month. Then there's always RVD and Booker. Even though Angle and Jericho have been on top before, they'd still be a fresh face as Champion... any of those five would. But Brock is not over. Keep him in the upper mid card and work on his character and if people start to care about him, then it'll be easy to move him right back on top and put the belt on him then. But not now. Anyway, give this match about thirteen or fourteen minutes, keep it basic, and keep the belt on the Rock.

 

As a whole, I think this card can be a really fun wrestling show. With only eight matches, they'll all get enough time, and the outcome of more than half the matches are pretty unpredictable. And other than Taker/Test and maybe Rock/Brock, I'm pretty sure you can guarantee every match to hit three stars. Lots of four star potential too. I think Summerslam is shaping up to what could be the best PPV of the year. Thoughts?

[Guest Brian]

Well, it'll probably be Edge vs. Eddie instead of Cena against Eddie.

 

There's no point in really putting Angle over Rey. He has enough momentum as is (well, except for the edge thing on SmackDown). And he's already shot down Rey and most of the cruiserweight division enough.

 

I agree with Benoit over RVD, and only if they're going to find a way to continue the feud, not so we get Edge vs. Benoit.

 

The Michaels match cannot be good unless both guys bump like hell, and I can't see that happening.

 

They don't have enough time to build another program for Rock. Brock or bust.

[Guest Singular]

Mabey they will do a screw job ending to Brock vs. Rock so the title is held up.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Gotta agree with Brian here. Why the hell would they book Cena on the card when Eddy and Edge have the issue anyway?

 

On Benoit/RVD, I think Benoit should win, but I don't think Chris should lose the IC title in the rematch either. The belt needs some stabilization and plus, RVD can afford to lose some anyway.

 

On Trips/HBK, anybody expecting a **** match should be considered insane.

 

Angle/Rey: They really booked themselves into a corner here, I think. But fuck it, Rey should probably go over.

 

Un-Americans/BookDust: The Canadians need to win, PERIOD.

 

Taker/Test: Realistically, Test needs the win here so that the Un-Americans look strong, but Taker probably gets his job back, so whatever.

 

Brock/Rock: Since, like Brian stated, there is no time after this to build a new program for Rock, he does the job here.

[Guest dilk bathoon]

heres my take;

 

taker d. test: taker goes over, probably avoiding an abondance of unamerican interfierance too.

 

unamericans d. bookerdust: booker and goldie don't need the belts, and lance and christian sure as hell do. they'll probably pick up the W with tons of help from test.

 

benoit d. RVD: since raw got the tag titles, i really don't see them giving it the IC belt too. should be an awesome match, and will probably elevate both men one way or another.

 

angle d. mysterio: could easily steal match of the night honors from benoit and rob, i expect to see about a thousand near falls and angle winning with the ankle lock.

 

triple h d. shawn michaels: ya, there really would no point putting shawn over hunter, who looked to be back on track monday. i agree it could go either way, from stinking up the joint to hitting the **** mark.

 

rock d. brock: everyone thinks brock's a shoe-in to win, but i see rocky keeping the belt. hell, stevie wonder could see brock just isn't ready, and rock probably will (and should) have the belt till the day he leaves for filming.

[Guest humanoid92]

"Gotta agree with Brian here. Why the hell would they book Cena on the card when Eddy and Edge have the issue anyway?"

 

True. I'll be honest. I haven't really been paying attention to Smackdown the past few weeks. Edge/Eddy would work fine.

 

"On Benoit/RVD, I think Benoit should win, but I don't think Chris should lose the IC title in the rematch either. The belt needs some stabilization and plus, RVD can afford to lose some anyway."

 

Agreed.

 

"On Trips/HBK, anybody expecting a **** match should be considered insane."

 

Not expecting it, I just think it's the peak... if everything breaks right, it could be that good. Conversely it could turn out to be equally horrible. We have no way to gauge it.

 

"Angle/Rey: They really booked themselves into a corner here, I think. But fuck it, Rey should probably go over."

 

Not sure about that.

 

"Un-Americans/BookDust: The Canadians need to win, PERIOD."

 

Definitely.

 

"Taker/Test: Realistically, Test needs the win here so that the Un-Americans look strong, but Taker probably gets his job back, so whatever."

 

Exactly.

 

"Brock/Rock: Since, like Brian stated, there is no time after this to build a new program for Rock, he does the job here."

 

Why is there no time? When exactly is it that he's leaving again?

[Guest chirs3]

Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio

 

This'll be fun. 12 year old... hee hee... I predict a minimum of **1/2, with Angle going over but making Rey look good.

 

BookDust vs UnAmericans

 

The UnAmericans are still fresh in their title reign, only a month old... I'm betting they'll CHEAT TO WIN~!, giving Bookdust a decent storyline to run on for another month or two. ** minimum, UnAmericans retain.

 

Rob Van Dam vs Chris Benoit

 

They can either rehash the Raw match move for move (which would still get *** in my book), or they can let both men hit ALL their signature offense. Give 'em fifteen, they'll give you MotN. ***1/2, BARE minimum, no call on who wins.

 

Triple H vs Shawn Michaels

 

I think we've pretty much figured out it's gonna be a garbage brawl, the only question is whether it will be a good one or not. I'm playing this safe, * minimum, and Michaels better win.

 

Chris Jericho vs Ric Flair

 

Jericho = teh roq. **1/2 minimum, Jericho wins!

 

Test vs The Undertaker

 

Has an inkling of potential... * minimum, Taker wins.

 

The Rock vs Brock Lesnar

 

I like the "don't let them fight each other at all until the actual match" hype they're running, and Rock is good. We'll call it a **3/4 minimum, with Brocky taking the title.

[Guest TestKick]

Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio

 

Rey Rey has to win here. If WWE is serious about cruiserweights, and wants to use Rey's potential huge overness, he's gonna need a win like this... and against a guy the size of Angle, it is believable, without looking stupid to the fans. I think this match will be around **1/2-*** range.

 

Winner: Rey Mysterio

 

BookDust vs UnAmericans

 

UnAmericans should win via cheating here. They need a long title run, and a few good feuds with the title. Besides, BookDust don't need the titles. Should be about ** range.

 

Winner: UnAmericans

 

Rob Van Dam vs Chris Benoit

 

I don't have a feeling they can do any better than their Raw match, and considering the number of matches ahead of this, I doubt they're gonna get much time. This could get ***** given the right opportunity, but we're not gonna see it. I say ***-***1/2 at best. Rob probably goes over here, because I don't see another reason why they made this match.

 

Winner: Rob Van Dam

 

HHH vs Shawn Michaels

 

Don't care. HHH is definitely winning, and they'll probably shake hands or something gay after this horrible match. The only thing that can get this over DUD, is if there's lots of blood.

 

Winner: HHH

 

Chris Jericho vs Ric Flair

 

Better be Jericho. Ric is God, but he seriously has to stop wrestling... it embarasses, and kind of scares me watching him take bumps out there. I predict about **.

 

Winner: Chris Jericho

 

Test vs Undertaker

 

This could really be MOTN. I hope they are planning a great match with this one. Of course, I get into these power match-ups more than most, but this has the possibility of being great. I'm hoping Mark feels like taking some bumps in this one, because this could be full of hard-hitting offense. This could be between *-***1/2.

 

Rock vs Brock Lesnar

 

This is a total crap shoot. WWE has to realize that if Brock wins, he MUST do SOMETHING in this match, so the fans care about him. Turning on Heyman would be sensible... but just something to show Brock has a personality, and a character. As far as the match, it depends. If Brock continues his lame 80s power offense... ** at best with Rocky's overdone selling. If Brock pulls out some good matwork, and maybe the SSP... this could get in **** range, because you know Rocky will do everything possible to make Brock look good. This is a pivotal match for WWE, as it's the last chance to make Brock not a complete bust.

 

Winner: Brock Lesnar, of course.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Looking at your predicted ratings Testkick, you seem pretty pestimistic. Well except for the Test vs. Taker match

[Guest SlowChemical6]

I don't think that WWE has much of a choice in putting Brock over, with Rock leaving to make his next movie.

[Guest TestKick]

I'm not pessimistic... but I'm not really looking forward to SummerSlam either. It just has the looks of being another PPV that I can miss, and it wouldn't matter.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I'm liking that matches so far, so i think that the card is going to be pretty good. Being a optimist is a good thing!

[Guest nWoScorpion]

has anyone heard of THE WORLD CHAMPION Losing the title on RAW? It happend several times over the past few years, why not again? Give it to Kane! LOL

[Guest chirs3]

Scorp, try to use a little logic:

 

If The Rock retained, then jobbed it to someone else on Raw, that pretty much kills Brock's whole push.

 

And if you were thinking him jobbing it to Brock on Raw, it's pretty pointless.

[Guest TestKick]

WWE hasn't had their yearly Raw World Title change this year, yet... Sadly, the only way I could see it happening, is HHH beating Brock on Raw.

[Guest chirs3]

It's only August! You've got time, WWE! Don't hotshot it the night after SummerSlam, or I'll... I'll...

 

I'll watch SMACKDOWN! Yea, how do ya like THEM apples, Bischoff?

 

Oh wait...

 

Shit.

[Guest CanadianChick]

WWE hasn't had their yearly Raw World Title change this year, yet... Sadly, the only way I could see it happening, is HHH beating Brock on Raw.

I don't think that Brock will lose the belt in a day. The way they are building Brock, he won't lose in a day. Or at least I hope not. I don't like brock that much, but a day reign would be very bad and possibly ruin Brock's future.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

I meant Brock no win AT ALL And give HHH the title from rock. So then a face can win it back from HHH then hotshot it to Brock if hes "over" enough (and he wont be)

[Guest Austin3164life]

If Brock ends up losing the title to the Rock the night after SS, then the whole pay per view will have one of the worst blowoffs. It'll be like WM 16 where I felt like the show was saying "Tune in on Raw to find out what will happen" after Wrestle-freakin'-mania. If they do that, it would suck, especially because Brock does not have a lot of heat.

[Guest Dangerous A]

You hit it right on the head, AustinHHH4Life. If the end result WWE wants is Brock as champ, then it should be done at Summerslam, not a hotshot the next night on Raw. Not having payoffs on ppv's, and then blowing it on free tv takes away that feeling you are watching something special on ppv, and thus makes fans not want to buy the ppv. It's something WCW did all the time and it's a habit WWE really shouldn't pick up.

[Guest chirs3]

I meant Brock no win AT ALL And give HHH the title from rock. So then a face can win it back from HHH then hotshot it to Brock if hes "over" enough (and he wont be)

And as we've already said before, that kills Brock's God-push and does absolutely nothing for him...

 

And if you think about it, it won't do much for the Rock, as he's still one of the most (if not the most) over guy on the roster.

 

Rock has got to lose.

[Guest jester]

Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio

 

"You must be this tall to talk to Kurt Angle." Kind of a weird mix this one. I think there will be some kind a DQ non-finish after both guys get a chance to dominate. Mysterio could use the win to build himself up, but Angle has been used to build too many guys lately and doesn't need another high profile loss.

 

 

BookDust vs UnAmericans

 

I'm going with Bookdust. If the UnAmerican angle is still going in September, with the anniversary of you know what, Lance, Christian and Test can forget about a career as faces in the States for a long, long time. Potential WWE backlash too. A BookDust win gives them an excuse to bury the angle.

 

Rob Van Dam vs Chris Benoit

 

It would be great if either guy left the feud to become a regular main eventer, but will it happen? Anyway, whoever wins or loses, the smarks probably win.

 

Triple H vs Shawn Michaels

 

I wonder if HHH is being fed another legend to try and get him more over? I suspect another non-conclusive finish (how they pull off a DQ in a street fight is beyond me though), and yes, potentially a hug at the end.

 

Chris Jericho vs Ric Flair

 

Probably Jericho. They really should have made this submissions only, figure 4 vs. the walls. Now that could have been interesting.

 

 

Test vs The Undertaker

 

Taker.

 

The Rock vs Brock Lesnar

 

They have really left themselves many options here. They might be tempted with a DQ finish, but that would make Brock look like a chump. Part of me holds out that they know Brock isn't over enough and keep it on the Rock, but I'm worried they only pass it to someone just as bad and boring, or who's already been champ a zillion times.

 

Probably Brock, but hoping its not.

[Guest Brian]

"Mysterio could use the win to build himself up, but Angle has been used to build too many guys lately and doesn't need another high profile loss."

 

Like I've said, if Angle won't commit to the WWE he'll be jobbing on PPV's.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

BookDust vs UnAmericans

 

I'm going with Bookdust. If the UnAmerican angle is still going in September, with the anniversary of you know what, Lance, Christian and Test can forget about a career as faces in the States for a long, long time. Potential WWE backlash too. A BookDust win gives them an excuse to bury the angle

That would make the UnAmericans push a colossal waste of time for everyone involved. They're finally utilizing Storm & Christian, and even Test has heat, so killing the angle would be a bad idea.

 

Besides, the tag belts have change hands too many times in the last few months. Let Storm & Christian run w/ them for a while and build up a meaningful feud w/ another team before having them lose the belts.