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Guest Shanghai Kid 2002

What if HBK/HHH is the match of the year?

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Guest Shanghai Kid 2002

It's been 4 years since he wrestled..that's alot of time for an injury to heal. But I know HBK's back is permanently messed up.

 

Yet I think that HBK cares about his legacy a little bit too much to come out and put on a shitty match. I figure if it hits *** it will be a success. If HBK is known for one thing in his career, it's stealing the show. And it's not like he's working against Rikishi. HHH may get alot of crap, but it's not like he's a less than average wrestler.

 

I'm just being optimistic, the storyline is pretty lame though. Nobody wants to see Shawn fighting for his kid, they want to see the old HBK dancing around...this is way too Mick Folish. Yet everybody is already dismissing this match as an already pre-destined crap fest.

 

Is anybody going to admit their wrong if the match is great and becomes a MOTYC?

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Guest nWoScorpion

I think its gonna be good, not MOTY good, but good. I don't except a flying plancha to the floor or any of that from shawn. If its No DQ Match then that may make it better or maybe worse. I don't know. We will see if it "steals the show" especially with BROCK in the M.E.

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Guest -Cutthroat-

Well, I think the match will be good nut I don't think its going to be one of the greates ever...

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Guest El Psycho Diablo

I don't think it's gonna happen.

 

Michaels can't really bump. Hunter isn't near what he was in 2000.

 

If it was Michaels from before his injury, and HHH before his, it'd be a possiblity. But it isn't, and so it's likely going to suck..

 

..given the fact it'll go 15 minutes longer than it should.

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Guest NazMistry
Yet everybody is already dismissing this match as an already pre-destined crap fest.

 

Is anybody going to admit their wrong if the match is great and becomes a MOTYC?

With good reason people are dismissing this match as a crapfest.

 

However if this is even a good match, I'll give credit to HBK and HHH.

However MOTYC?

That is pushing it.

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Guest Lord of The Curry

There is no fucking way that HBK/HHH could beat out Eddy/RVD ladder match or Angle/Edge from Judgement Day. Just no fuckin' way. If this thing is even *** then I'll be surprised.

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Guest RickyChosyu

Hunter used to be known for stealing the show. It'll take a complete comeback from him and a near miracle from Shawn for that match not to blow all kinds of ass. There is no way they are going to get a good match out of each other at this point.

 

Remember, it's going to be a "fight." Like the Taker/HHH "fight." Yeah.

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Guest Shanghai Kid 2002

Would it really be hard to be a MOTYC? It's not like their have been many classic matches this year. If this match somehow hits **** and has a decisive finish, it could be a contender. Hell, right now most fans consider Hogan/Rock as the only standout match of the year. The only other match of the year candidate I see is Edge vs Angle from Backlash.

 

I think the HHH/HBK match will be a mix of HHH vs Cactus streetfight and HBK's last match vs Austin.

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Guest RickyChosyu

Umm....yes?

 

And who would these people be? Whoever they are, you shouldn't listen to them; there are a million matches more deserving than Rock/Hogan, and none of the Angle/Edge matches were better than Jericho/Rock from the Royal Rumble, which has pretty much out-done every "big match" so far in the WWE. RVD/Eddy from Judgement Day might have a chance, otherwise I'd say Rock/Jericho gets the pick, for WWE anyway (haven't seen any of the ROH stuff, so don't even bring that up here).

 

So no, it won't be a MOTYC. If it surpasses Taker/Test in quality, I'll rejoice.

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Guest NazMistry

The only reason people consider Rock/Hogan standout is because of the insane crowd involvement and the wrestlers involved. Otherwise the match itself wasn't really that great.

If HBK/HHH pull out a MOTYC, then I will never say one critical thing about Triple H EVER again.

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Guest Nevermortal

I doubt it'll be a MOTYC. It'll have to be on par with the NWA TNA Week 2 X Division match, which in this case is most likely impossible.

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Guest Brian

Broken down bump artist who had a serious, career-threatening back injury and hasn't wrestled in the last four years plus broken down wrestler trying to be bodybuilder who hasn't had a great match in the last year and a half who relied heavily on bumping and better workers during his "prime".

 

You do the math.

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Guest Quik
Broken down bump artist who had a serious, career-threatening back injury and hasn't wrestled in the last four years plus broken down wrestler trying to be bodybuilder who hasn't had a great match in the last year and a half who relied heavily on bumping and better workers during his "prime".

 

You do the math.

Translation: Piss Break

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Guest BionicRedneck

HHH can't carry someone to a MOTYC right now. Unless HBK's back is fine and he's been swindling us all along, this is goin to be shit. They are gonna punch and kick in the ring, then in the crowd, then in the ring, then HHH wins. That don't sound MOTY to me.

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Guest Spaceman Spiff

If this match reaches ***, that would be the equivalent of a ***** match between any other 2 competitors.

 

Anything above ** would have to be considered excellent considering who is going to be involved.

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Guest AndrewTS

BEST match of the year or WORST match of the year? I'm leaning more towards the latter. Maybe double stretcher job at 1:04. :P

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Guest bps "The Truth" 21

The match will be a train wreck...and they aren't even trying to pretend it won't...as they are selling it as a fight instead of a match.

 

I see a sloppy poor boring brawl with HHH beating HBK up until HBK's inevitable comeback 20 minutes later...all the while JR orgasms and screams "Will someone stop the damn match".

 

However...some people on this board will no doubt claim it to be a great match...just like I'm sure people will claim Brock vs. Rock to be a good match based solely on the end of the match.

 

What I mean is...people overrate Rock matches all the time...and this will be no different. He can have a really boring match...but the finishes of Rock's matches are always strong...and so people overrate them.

 

And don't tell me they don't...the RAW 8 man was pretty boring until the finish...and I saw people saying ****.

 

Those people aren't rating matches...they are too easily influenced by one or two things, and forget about anything having to do with the match.

 

So...people will like it...and it will suck.

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Guest Brian

Same with the three-man from last month. Rock has a great guy at doing those match finishes behind him, and booking matches around weaknesses.

 

Brock vs. Rock can still be a good match, but I don't think Brock's nearly developed on in-ring ability. I see alot of promise but he won't step up by SummerSlam.

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Guest Olympic Slam

It'll be like Taker vs. Flair from X-8. 17 minutes of punching except this match will have 80% fewer bumps. If it goes above **1/2 stars I'd be very surprised.

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Guest RickyChosyu

Hell, Angle/Edge gets praise for the very same reason. Strong finish, decent match, yet everyone called it match of the year.

 

Rock/Brock could be decent and will no doubt be booked to hide both guy's weaknesses, but that means it's going to be very architypal (read: cliched) in the "Babyface Vs. Big Strong Heel" style of match, so I don't see it being anything special. I'm mildly interested in the tag title match, along with Rey/Angle (deffinately some potential there, if they play their cards right) and Eddy/Edge won't be terrible, unless we get "Stupid Eddy" like we did Vs. Flair.

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Guest Brian

Oh yeah, I remember that match.

 

Don't forget RVD vs. Benoit, which probably has the most potential of the night.

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Guest bps "The Truth" 21

I fear that they wil try and turn Rey vs. Angle into a comedy match.

 

If Angle's character takes the match seriously, it could do a world of good for the cruiser division, and be a good match to boot...

 

but I can see them making a big joke out of it and doing a service for no one.

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Guest Shanghai Kid 2002

Actually, it's not that people on this board are going to find good things to say about this match no matter what, it's that people on this board are going to find bad things to say about it. It seems so much has been invested in everybody saying that this match is going to suck that even its good people are going to find a way to make it look bad in order to keep themselves from having to put their own foot in their mouth.

 

With everybody so negative towards this match, I can't imagine anybody calling it good even if it is a **** MOTYC. I'm hoping that everybody is just going in with low expectations so they can enjoy it more...but don't flush the toilet until it's actually been used.

 

IMO, this match is already underrated, and it hasn't even happened yet. If it is the worst match of the year like everybody is expecting, i'll put my foot in my mouth and admit I was wrong.

 

Just a little optimism.

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Guest bps "The Truth" 21

The word "unfounded" is missing from the last line of your post.

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Guest Spaceman Spiff
I'm hoping that everybody is just going in with low expectations

I don't think you'll have to worry about that.

 

And I'm pretty sure those expectations will be met.

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Guest El Psycho Diablo

I'll put it this way.

 

With good workers, a good match can happen. That's logic.

 

Miracles, however, do not happen. The chance Michaels and Hunter have to put on a ***** match is about the same chance as if..say..Lawler would actually announce.

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Guest RickyChosyu

Shit, I forgot RVD/Benoit. Well, I'll be the first to say I really didn't care for their "four star" Raw match all that much, but I would still like to see them get it right this time. I'm not sure there's a really good match in those two, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

 

Yeah, I'm afraid bps may be right about Rey/Angle. If they dumb down the match the way most "Little guy Vs. Big Guy" matches are in the WWE, it could be a total waste of time. If they play it up as an important match that Rey has a justifiable chance of winning, then it could be really, really good.

 

As for everyone here being too negative, if you can come up with one legitimate reason why the match will be good, I'm all ears. Judging from the FACTS (Shawn hasn't wrestled in years, his back is fried, HHH is crippled too, his recent matches have been terrible, ect.) I feel there's little chance of it being good. But hey, what did facts ever do for anyone, right?

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Guest Olympic Slam
Actually, it's not that people on this board are going to find good things to say about this match no matter what, it's that people on this board are going to find bad things to say about it. It seems so much has been invested in everybody saying that this match is going to suck that even its good people are going to find a way to make it look bad in order to keep themselves from having to put their own foot in their mouth.

That's the case for just about any match. Somewhere out there, there's a Boby Holly lover that will always try to find a way to make those matches sound great. On the other side there's people that will never admit a Rock match is good because they're anti-Rock. It's just like politics. A Democrat will never give a Republican credit for anything and a Republican will never give a Democrat credit for anything.

 

If lots of punching is your thing, then maybe HBK v HHH will be great.

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

I believe the real question is "Will HBK/HHH marks be ready to admit that the match sucked?"

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Guest Brian

I figure Angle will have insulted Rey and the rest of the cruiser division by the time they get to the match that it own't matter unless Rey wins.

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