Guest MrRant Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Blacks Rally for Slave Reparations Bullshit. And where are they going to get the land hmmm? Give them national parks? Take away land from white people who have paid for the land or had it in there family for generations? And what about this money? To get the money black people will have a an increase in their taxes as well so they don't gain any there. They don't deserve anything. You don't see anyone who was enslaved by the Romans walking up to the Italian Prime Minister and saying we want Sicily because you enslaved us. Just more shit to stir the pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Preach it brother Rant! This slave reparations stuff goes beyond the realms of stupid. Was slavery wrong? Yes indeed, but should we as a country STILL be aplogoizing for it? If there were a living slave and if there were a living slave owner with a direct link to each other, then yes, reparations would be in order. But there are no living slaves or slave holders! And what if every white person in America was forced to write a check for these reparations? Does anyone think for a minute that any $ amount will be acceptable? You'll hear cries of "$3,000? That's hardly enough for all the pain and suffering my people went through blah blah blah." And thus the debate gets even MORE heated and the racial tension will get WORSE than ever because non-blacks who have been tolerant their whole life (like myself) will become increasingly disgusted with all the rhetoric and, of course, develop prejudice. You can't break down walls by putting up more bricks!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 18, 2002 i doubt people of the last generation worked in fields for a rich plantation owner for free, these people aregreedy pieces of shit that want their lioves to be made easier for no reason whatsoever, werre these people slaves, no, then should they get reparations, fuck no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted August 18, 2002 They want every white person to pay. Only like 10% of the Southern population at the time of the Civil War owned slaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 18, 2002 i mean my family was working as shop keepers in NY during slavvery and so on...not being from a rich background WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted August 18, 2002 i mean my family was working as shop keepers in NY during slavvery and so on...not being from a rich background WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY!!!!!!!!! Because you are white. This is what the problem is you are white so somehow you are responsible for everything wrong that ever happened to them. I have relatives who are from Kentucky and I don't know if they ever had slaves but if they did I am sorry, but no way in hell am I gonna give you any fucking money because your great grandparents were slaves. Its just greed. I think I should be paid $5,000 dollars just for having to put up with this shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 18, 2002 i mean my family was working as shop keepers in NY during slavvery and so on...not being from a rich background WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY!!!!!!!!! Argh! I guess in the eyes of Louis Farrakhan and the rest of the reparations movement that every white person in America is a decendent of a slave owner. Yet my very white father's side of the family came from Canada and before that Norway. Sure doesn't sound like the description of a pre-Civil War southern slave owner to me. So in a way, Farrakhan is prejudging my white heritage. And we all know that prejudge is the root word for prejudice. Interesting eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TJH Report post Posted August 18, 2002 What a load of crap. You might be interested in this site, seeing as the rally was organized by the Nation of Islam, or at least the leader spoke at it. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4222/noi.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 18, 2002 If they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are people or organizations in power that are still benefitting financially from historical slave labor, and that they are themselves direct descendents of the slaves in question, then they might have a case. Til then? Forget it, Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted August 18, 2002 The whole "debate" strikes me as vaguely amusing. I know a girl who's half-black, half-white (and amazingly gorgeous, but unfortunately very straight and very married. Erm. Anyway). On her father's side, she's unquestionably a descendant of slaves. On her mother's side, she's unquestionably a descendant of slave-owners. Would she pay these "reparations" or receive them? Besides, what about the Civil War? Something like 300,000 white men died in the process of abolishing slavery. Are all those corpses (not to mention 30,000 amputated limbs) meaningless? Or are they just inconvenient to acknowledge? And what about the fact that blacks rounded up their own people in Africa to sell to the white slavers? Those guys certainly profited from slavery - profited directly, deliberately, and systematically. Why aren't there any calls for modern African countries to pay part of these reparations? They get a free pass because of the colour of their skin? Or because they're horrifically poor? Wait, what was that again? They're horrifically poor? Yeah, they are, aren't they? Blacks in the United States have the highest standard of living of blacks anywhere in the world. Would you guys rather have stayed in Africa? Listen up, Mr Farrakhan: slavery didn't make the entire African continent one gigantic hell of human misery. Your relatives did that all by themselves. Of course, it's kinda silly to expect an intelligent argument from a raving lunatic who claims that white people were created by a mad scientist named "Yacub," that Hitler was "a great man," that Judaism is the "synagogue of Satan," and that he personally warned Khaddafi of an American attack by travelling on a UFO to a city in the sky, where his dead predecessor revealed to him a plot by President Reagan. Bugfuck crazy old twit. Mr Farrakhan, your people are an uneducated, drug-ridden, and comparatively poor minority. But the solution does not lie in alienating the majority. The solution doesn't lie in punishing people for sins they never committed and compensating others for suffering they never endured. Yes, racism is a real problem. But it's a problem for serious people, Mr Farrakhan, and your fifteen minutes were up long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 18, 2002 The thing that drives me crazy about Farrakhan is that he's a legitimate card carrying racist of the highest magnitude but since he's black, the media doesn't call him on it. Yet when a white guy like Pat Buchanan calls for tougher immigration policy he gets called evey name in the book. Frustrating! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I saw this on the Pulse- O'Reilly totally took the guy to school. And slave reparations is a load of bullshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I saw this on the Pulse- O'Reilly totally took the guy to school. And slave reparations is a load of bullshit ahh Bill O'Rielly, he's the man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted August 18, 2002 how in the world could you hold anyone accountable for something that they didn't do? That they weren't alive to do? You can't blame everyone because not everyone owned slaves. So what do you do? Blame a race. Who's racist now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted August 18, 2002 This topic is touchy, because if you say the wrong thing, you're percieved as a racist. Having said that, what the fuck will the blacks do with this newfound land that they're given? What will they do to aid in their peoples development and how will this land fit into the picture? That's right, it fuckin' won't. I would like the know the opinions of anybody black or mixed who posts on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Hell yes I'm mixed: part Cherokee, that is. (A small part, but bear with me.) If ANYONE deserves to be given some land (and I don't think anyone really does), it's the descendents of the Native Americans from whom it was stolen in the first place. Whites, blacks, they all kinda forget who was here first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Look, as much as I hate to say it, this WILL happen, someday... I propose giving anyone that wants it a one-way ticket to the homeland of his or her choice. Hell, I'll even spring for meal money. If it's so bad here then maybe someone would feel better going back to where his or her great-great-great-great grandparents lived. Places where people die over a slice of bread or catch AIDS by breathing the air (I'm exaggerating a bit here). Anyway, it's GOING to happen one day; might as well get it over with. Besides, back in the day Americans gave some slaves the option of going back to Africa, so it's not like this has been done before... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I'm also against the whole idea of slave reparations. I know that if that certain people get their way, the slave reparation money they would get would partially come out of my wallet via taxes, which is complete crap since I'm an Asian whose lineage in America doesn't even start until the late 1960's. The whole slavery argument doesn't touch me. I have two black uncles through marriage and half-black cousins as a result. They're both living at a much higher standard of living than I am at the moment. Sure it'd be nice for them to get some money through slave reparations since they are family and all, but wouldn't that be a bit ill-gotten and undeserving? At this point, the ill-effects of slavery in America has been erased except for history books and those who refuse to let it go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Look, as much as I hate to say it, this WILL happen, someday... I propose giving anyone that wants it a one-way ticket to the homeland of his or her choice. Hell, I'll even spring for meal money. If it's so bad here then maybe someone would feel better going back to where his or her great-great-great-great grandparents lived. Places where people die over a slice of bread or catch AIDS by breathing the air (I'm exaggerating a bit here). Anyway, it's GOING to happen one day; might as well get it over with. Besides, back in the day Americans gave some slaves the option of going back to Africa, so it's not like this has been done before... Why would anyone want to line in any country in Africa? The whole continent is dissaray. The only country that might have been hospitable was South Africa, but that place has gone down the crapper ever since the Dutch were phased out. South Africa is now the rape, child rape, and car theft capital of the world. Other than the U.S, (or if you're liberal Australia and Canada) can anyone think of a better country to live in for an english speaking person? That goes for white, black, brown, or whataver color mix you may be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack Tunney Report post Posted August 18, 2002 I watched some of this rally on TV and get a load of some of the stupid shit that was said..... -well,it seems what happened on Sept.11 wasnt bad at all because the passangers had comfortable seats, but the slaves on the slave ships didnt. -the holocaust in Europe was no big deal either apparently, since only 6 million died.But 150 million died due to slavery. -One guy said he wanted to go slap a white person in the face for his mental health. -the word "cracker" was used a couple times. I owe nothing to no one.My great-grandparesnts came from Sicily and Ireland in the 1920's.In fact,my one great-grandfather was in the I.R.A and was about to be hanged by English soldiers but he was able to escape to America on a boat. (not before they burned his house down).But do I go around bitching to English people about it?No! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted August 18, 2002 History is full of the oppressed. The chinese were forced to work for shitty wages and with no rights to create the railroads. The Native Americans were DECIMATED, in a way that African Americans were not. Which race is better off now I wonder. Yes slavery was terrible. But I wouldn't sue anyone because their parents fucked with my parents. It won't help anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted August 18, 2002 Well, half my blood was in Italy at the time of the Civil War, the other half I haven't bothered to find out about. Maybe I'll get 50% off. This is really... really stupid. I should shell out my hard earned minimum-wage collectings because a long time ago, not in a galaxy far far a way, a relative of mine so distant I can't even think of where to look for him or her on a family tree may have owned slaves? Pbth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Pbth. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 19, 2002 i thought blacks have their own community's called ghetto's okay my bad. but it sounds stupid, but here in Canada we give natives pieces of land, money and they can get into any canadian college/univeristy for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mosh For Jesus Report post Posted August 19, 2002 They want every white person to pay. Only like 10% of the Southern population at the time of the Civil War owned slaves. Why do they want out women. Tell them to go back to Africa. ROARRRRR!! NIGGERSSSSSSSSSS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Tell them to go back to Africa. ROARRRRR!! NIGGERSSSSSSSSSS I really hope you're kidding, and maybe trying to lampoon the anti-reparations sentiments expressed so far. Racism will NOT be tolerated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Mosh For Jesus, that's some of the most politically incorrect phrasing I've ever read on these forums...and I laughed my ass off, and I'm not afraid to admit it. The guy's a jackass. One half of my family came directly from Great Britain and Scotland, where they were members of the WORKING CLASS (meaning their descendants were pretty poor, as were they), and the other half came from Ireland, Italy, Portugal, and Canada. Why should my kilt-wearing, soccer-loving, "eh"-saying family pay for something hicks did over 100 years ago? Hmmm...well, if that's the case, I want the blacks to pay reparations to white folks. Why? Because of the all the runaway slaves. They were given a job, a home, food to eat, clothing...and yet they ran away and left their job, causing profits to drop and a slum in business way back when. See how insane that sounds? Exactly my point. And I agree with everybody that said that the Native American population has been raped and murdered in more ways than one over the years, and deserve more reparations and aid than ANYBODY else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 19, 2002 but it sounds stupid, but here in Canada we give natives pieces of land, money and they can get into any canadian college/univeristy for free. Even that is wrong in my eyes. Giving a race of people special advantages, privelages or handouts just because they're of a certain race is wrong. In this case, Native Canadians have an advantage when it comes to college JUST because of their race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Invader3k Report post Posted August 19, 2002 Yes, the whole thing is completely fucking stupid...but it's pretty typical of the double-standard induced racism that America's blacks are allowed to get away with...nevermind that the whole reparations thing would never work out for logistical reasons. It will never, ever happen...as messed up as America might be, something this retarded would get tied up for years in the courts. We'd probably all be dead by the time all the legalities were ironed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 19, 2002 God, don't you love how people fight against racism like Farhakhan and then they turn out to be the biggest racists under the sun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites