Guest TheBlurricane Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I just heard on the radio that Metallica will go ahead with a new album and that their producer Bob Rock will play bass. What the hell??? Can he even play bass? Man things don't look good for the future of Metallica Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted August 20, 2002 Is he just filling in for bass on this one album? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBlurricane Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I certainly hope so. I didn't get a lot of details. They just said he's doing bass on this album. Not sure how long that will last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I know Bob Rock's a producer, but I'm not overly familiar with him. Can you explain why him playing bass for Metallica would be such a problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I knew Metallica was dragging their feet about getting a new bass player but I'm still surprised they went with Rock. They played a few shows with him earlier this year so it must have worked out well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBlurricane Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I don't know. I'm probably just being over dramatic. I just don't like him as their producer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 20, 2002 yaaawn :checks calender: So when can we hope for these guys to retire? Any rough estimates? They are the "metal" version of the Rolling Stones. They had a 10 year time span give or take in which they were great at the beginning of their career and then just stayed around way too long past their good years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted August 20, 2002 I know Bob Rock's a producer, but I'm not overly familiar with him. Can you explain why him playing bass for Metallica would be such a problem? I know back in the day when I was a mullet wearing metal kid I was pretty upset about Bob Rock replacing that Swedish guy as their producer because he had produced Dr. Feelgood and Bon Jovi and shit like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted August 20, 2002 Oh. You had a mullet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted August 20, 2002 It's not something I'm proud of in hindsight. I can't help it I grew up as a gritter out in the sticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 20, 2002 i heard about this for over a year easily, but i wasn't sure because i've heard that they would go a three piece band and having James play Bass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBlurricane Report post Posted August 20, 2002 i've heard that they would go a three piece band and having James play Bass. Kinda like James' favorite band Motorhead does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 21, 2002 they shouldnt make any more albums, they should only tour, they put on an AWESOME live show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest swan Report post Posted August 21, 2002 Like the internet, you shouldn't believe everything you hear on the radio. Go to this link and see what Lars(a much better source when it comes to Metallica news, wouldn't you agree?) has to say about Bob Rock in Metallica: http://www.blistering.com/news/newsdet.php3?ID=3523 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 21, 2002 James playing bass would be BAAAAAAAAAAAD...why? Because he's among the great rhythm GUITARISTS of all-time. Regardless if whether he played the bass Lemmy-style or not, it wouldn't be the same, especially when they play anything pre-...And Justice For All, as the basslines were pretty much standing-out in each song. Bob Rock is the worst producer EVER. He over-mixes songs so that they get a glossed-over feeling whenever you listen to them, and doesn't understand that partially what made the first 4 Metallica albums so incredibly great was their raw-ness in an era of over-produced music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 21, 2002 Im just happy that i have another chance to see Metallica Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Ermmm, how many "oh noooooo's" from Metallica is it gonna take before people just give up on their shitty selves. Oh and someone said Hetfied was a great guitarist, bwahahaha.....Hetfield is overrated as hell. He was good when he was thrash, when he yelled and screamed, he can't sing worth a damn and everyone knows it. Metallica should just pack it up, and hope that people forget about the last 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 22, 2002 NoCalMike, Hetfield is actually a great singer, although his current voice fits a more mellow, blues-y/country style of music, hence the riff-heavy and blues-influenced Load and ReLoad. Overrated guitarist? Perhaps...but then again, he also wrote "Orion," "To Live Is To Die"'s guitar parts, and "Call Of Ktulu." Yep...overrated alright by making great music... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted August 22, 2002 He may sound great on the CD, which I won't deny, but when he doing live vocals it is not nearly as good sounding. I was just disputing that though....As far as his writing capabilities, they are just fine. I just think Metallica is over though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Orion and ktulu are easy as hell though. Never heard the other song you mentioned. Metallica should've just released Anasthesia as a single and quit. Anymore, I just revel in listening to longtime fans lament about the good ol' days and totally admit how they've gone to shit. As far as Hetfield's vocals, well, this is my opinon and all, but that is the number one reason why I absolutely cannot stand that band. Hence Anasthesia is the only Metallica song i don't hate. More because I respect Cliff Burton than anything. he should've gone with Mustaine...that would've been amazing. Although it would've been a sad time when Mustaine kicked out everyone who wasn't named Dave a while back.. That had to have been his basis in making THAT decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Who cares if they're easy as hell? They're still GREAT songs. That's like saying "The Ramones sucked because they're music was too easy." You seem to forget that one of the major rules of being a good guitarist is being able to write good songs, not just be technically great (hence why I hate Jimmy Paige). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 22, 2002 didn't Mustaine wrote Ktulu, then bastard hammett said he wrote it? anywho, James is an amazing rythem player, just like Mustaine who both changed the way the guitar is played, hence thrash metal came in. I'll admit that James is bland and I like Mustaine better, but best metal vocalist is Dickinson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 22, 2002 i dont care for Bruce Dickinson too much, i duno personal opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted August 23, 2002 Does Bob Rock overproduce stuff? Usually. Is he the worst producer of all time? Well, that would all depend on what your goal is when you go into the studio. If your goal is to put of a 'raw' album that will essentially preach to the choir, and not make you any money, then yeah, Bob Rock is a pretty bad choice. Bob Rock is, however, a hitmaker. That being why people record albums. Like it or not, *all* musicians are in it for the money. First and foremost. The secondary concerns may be art, integrity, banging hot chicks on tour and 'being true to the fans'. But those are secondary concerns. You make an album so it will sell. And going to Bob Rock ups the odds of it selling into the stratosphere a hundredfold. In that respect, you would have to call him one of the best producers of all time. You may not like the finished product, but lots of other people do, and they shell out the money to buy it. And that is what the band wants. Maybe they lose you as a fan, but they pick up a hundred others when you stop liking them. Pretty good exchange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted August 24, 2002 Slayer is responsible for putting Thrash Metal into high octane. Yet somehow Metallica gets the credit. I will deny that Metallica had their role in the genre, but overall I would say Slayer has influcenced a lot more bands. Kerry King is on par if not better than Kirk Hammet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 24, 2002 if Kerry King was not so one dimensional as a guitar player then he would be on par with Hammett. I'd still say Megadeth and Metallica started thrash metal before slayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
