Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted August 22, 2002 The PTC has released their official "Best and Worst of TV" list that includes the top 10 best and worst shows on TV: BEST 1. Doc (PAX) 2. Touched by an Angel (CBS) 3. Sabrina the Teenage Witch (WB) 4. 7th Heaven (WB) 5. Baby Bob (CBS) 6. Smallville (WB) 7. Reba (WB) 8. The Ponderosa (Pax) 9. George Lopez (ABC) 10. Bernie Mac (Fox) WORST 1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (UPN) 2. Off Centre (WB) 3. Will & Grace (NBC) 4. Friends (NBC) 5. WWE Smackdown! (UPN) 6. Big Brother II (CBS) 7. C.S.I. (CBS) 8. Temptation Island II (Fox) 9. That 70s Show (Fox) 10. Boston Public (Fox) Please. Will & Grace, Friends, Boston Public, That 70's Show and SmackDown! (which is very toned down) don't belong on that list. I don't really feel like going into why they don't belong there at this moment, but the rest of you can feel free to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted August 22, 2002 The PTC can bite my ass NO ONE WATCHES PAX!!! They can have a boner for the station all they want, but no one watches. Did George Lopez go longer then 5 episodes? I can almost see Buffy being high on the list...they delt with rape, murder, revenge, and lesbians this year...but I can find way more offensive stuff on tv then that. But it's at the 9-10 timeslot...that's late enough for what kind of show it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Well when looking at the lists you have to remember what PTC is all about. They don't give a fuck about rather it's a good show or not they are all about "moral" and kid friendly shows. So these lists make total sense although i think they could've found more offensive stuff for the "worst of". Shocked that South Park and Simpsons aren't on it since they would be much more offensive then Friends or C.S.I.. However since this is mainly a Christian group maybe they didn't put South Park because of them attacking the Catholics, but then they went and spit on organized religion so nevermind. But still i can't stand the "moral right" and people like this so screw these people and their lists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I've never even heard of Pax. And why is Smackdown listed but not RAW? How is one worse than the other? No wonder the PTC is considered such a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Pax? Is that a cable station? Everything else on both lists seems to be network. Where's South Park, damnit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Yeah PAX is Cable and is a rather terrible channel unless you like boring totally unoffensive shows like 7th Heaven and mediocre game shows like Supermarket Sweep and Shop till You Drop. It's one of those "oh yeah my grandmother watches that crap" channels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted August 22, 2002 PAX is some let's love everybody Christian run try not to offend station...it's a cable station...I guess they try and just pick on the networks when they need to rip on a show...but they love that pax shit so much they have to list it. It sucks For Raw I think they're trying to pick more towards prime time tv.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 22, 2002 The PTC are a bunch of fucking lunatic asshole losers. We all know this. Why are we surprised at ANY of their choices? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Baby Bob!!!!!!!! what the fuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steve J. Rogers Report post Posted August 22, 2002 What exactly are they trying to say with these lists?: BEST 2. Touched by an Angel (CBS) 3. Sabrina the Teenage Witch (WB) 4. 7th Heaven (WB) I'll give you these three as they are lauded by both audiences and critics 5. Baby Bob (CBS) Oh my GOD! Considered by audiences AND critics as one of the worst programs on TV 6. Smallville (WB) Surprising that they put this on though this is a SCI-FI show So what is their criteria 9. George Lopez (ABC) Don't they know this got canned? 10. Bernie Mac (Fox) And "My Wife And Kids" isn't on here? WORST 1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (UPN) Again CRITERIA people? This is SCI-FI/Horror I can think of a whole slew of shows that are worse in the gore and violence in the same genre of Buffy. So you are telling me you are only using shows about people growing up? 3. Will & Grace (NBC) 4. Friends (NBC) 5. WWE Smackdown! (UPN) 6. Big Brother II (CBS) 7. C.S.I. (CBS) 8. Temptation Island II (Fox) If that is the case what in the hell are ALL OF THESE SHOWS even ON THE LIST? No one is growing up on ANY of these shows, hell if you consider Friends a "First steps into the real world" show I would buy it, FIVE YEARS AGO! But thats the only one. Seems like they are picking on shows just due to the noterity 10. Boston Public (Fox) Okay why is Boston Public on here and not NYPD Blue? Hell I'd think the PTC would have major problems with The West Wing as well. Very strange indeed Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I'm with Steve. The list makes no sense at all. How exactly did they go about picking these shows? Do they have a criteria listed on their website? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I believe the PTC only does basic cable which is why you don't see South Park or RAW on there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted August 22, 2002 i'm surprised Simpsons aka the Homer Simpson show on there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted August 22, 2002 >10. Bernie Mac (Fox) I guess this means that they've never seen Bernie's comedy act? >1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (UPN) I'm sure the logic is: "Vampires are offensive and Satanic, therefore a show about a vampire slayer must be offensive and satanic". >3. Will & Grace (NBC) Yep, just keep on bashing Will and Grace. That'll make gay people disappear... >4. Friends (NBC) Do you think the entire "single mom" storyline had anything to do with this? >5. WWE Smackdown! (UPN) Smackdown! ONLY at number 5? This is a sure sign for Heyman to increase the smut level on this show... >7. C.S.I. (CBS) Um, they're investigating crimes. This is bad because...? >8. Temptation Island II (Fox) Well, I can't really argue with this, based on the fact that the series sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I believe the PTC only does basic cable which is why you don't see South Park or RAW on there. PAX is a cable station though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I don't get Pax. What is the station anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steve J. Rogers Report post Posted August 22, 2002 I don't get Pax. What is the station anyway? A Christian orientated cable station that I believe is run by CBS/Viacom (Ironic in a way) that airs wholesome programing and/or shows aimed to make people more spiritual. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 22, 2002 PTC must live in bizzaro world or something. Their best is easily someone's worst and their worst is prolly someone's best. C.S.I? That shows awesome Their choice Baby Bob as a top show says EVERYTHING that ever needs to be said about the PTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DerangedHermit Report post Posted August 22, 2002 The PTC has released their official "Best and Worst of TV" list that includes the top 10 best and worst shows on TV: BEST 1. Doc (PAX) 2. Touched by an Angel (CBS) 3. Sabrina the Teenage Witch (WB) 4. 7th Heaven (WB) 5. Baby Bob (CBS) 6. Smallville (WB) 7. Reba (WB) 8. The Ponderosa (Pax) 9. George Lopez (ABC) 10. Bernie Mac (Fox) WORST 1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (UPN) 2. Off Centre (WB) 3. Will & Grace (NBC) 4. Friends (NBC) 5. WWE Smackdown! (UPN) 6. Big Brother II (CBS) 7. C.S.I. (CBS) 8. Temptation Island II (Fox) 9. That 70s Show (Fox) 10. Boston Public (Fox) Please. Will & Grace, Friends, Boston Public, That 70's Show and SmackDown! (which is very toned down) don't belong on that list. I don't really feel like going into why they don't belong there at this moment, but the rest of you can feel free to do so. Doc sucks. The main character is played by Billy Ray Cyrus. Weird..I didn't know he had any career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted August 22, 2002 mr achy breaky heart is in the #1 show!!! and i never fuckin heard of it, but i still cant get past Baby Bob, just damn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted August 22, 2002 dude, any list that has reba in its top ten should immediately be discarded. what a fucking joke! and frinds AND the 70's show are bottom 10????? BLASPHEMY~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted August 22, 2002 Most of their good shows are on their last legs nearing cancelation. 2. Touched by an Angel (CBS) - Rumored several times, but it keeps coming back. 3. Sabrina the Teenage Witch (WB) - there can't be much left for this show, shes not even a teenager any more for crying out loud?? 4. 7th Heaven (WB) - uh yeah, but don't let anyone find out about one of the stars posing half naked!!! 5. Baby Bob (CBS) - pretty much cancelled 7. Reba (WB) - might as well be cancelled 9. George Lopez (ABC) - cancelled Shows how much people care about "Quality family programming" And we know for a fact that families do not all gather around the tv to watch PAX (and if you are under age 40 and watch PAX you should be ashamed of yourself..) only old people do since thats probably the most inoffensive programming you can find and most old people would rather not watch tv than be *offended*. Well, Im offended cause I hate country music, so there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted August 22, 2002 First of all Pax, is NOT a cable station. It's a network just like WB or UPN is. NBC backs it, not CBS. That's why NBC programming reruns on there. Last summer they did a lot of swapping where Pax shows would air on NBC and NBC shows would air on Pax. My grandfather invested in that crap. Luckily he got out before it even aired. But he got a free trip to vegas out of it. Secondly, a lot of people don't seem to understand this list. This is the PTC. They are not saying what shows are "good" or "bad". They are talking about family values. They put Baby Bob on there, not because they think it's a good show, but because it's a show that the whole family can watch and it won't offend anybody. So the best 10 is the list of the most family suited shows and the worst 10 are the most un-family friendly shows. It has nothing to do with being a good show or not. So saying bitching because good shows are on the worst list doesn't mean anything because they're not talking about quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted August 23, 2002 Doc sucks. The main character is played by Billy Ray Cyrus. Weird..I didn't know he had any career. Sure he did - the one song. And the mullet. Can't forget about the mullet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted August 23, 2002 This is why any top/bottom 10 list compiled by any entity that has some sort of corporate agenda has no bearing in eyes. Lists like this with no apparent research or logic in how best and worst are determined always beg the question, "Who's lining your wallet?" I don't watch TV much and didn't even know 5 of the PTC's Top 10 existed (Doc, Baby Bob, Reba, The Ponderosa and George Lopez) compared to knowing about all the shows on their Bottom 10 sans one (Off Centre, which I'm assuming is relatively new.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted August 23, 2002 Buffy did feature ALOT of sex this year(the kind that just isn't suppose to be seen on television) and featured a guy getting his skin ripped of and set on fire. I can understand the ranking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted August 23, 2002 I'm still trying to understand their praise of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Okay, the PTC is a conservative Christian group, correct? Hello, dumbasses, it's called Sabrina the Teenage WITCH, not Sabrina the Teenage Faith Healer. Just because it's an inoffensive sugarpuff of a show doesn't mean that it should've sneaked past their other bullshit rules for hating people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DerangedHermit Report post Posted August 23, 2002 Doc sucks. The main character is played by Billy Ray Cyrus. Weird..I didn't know he had any career. Sure he did - the one song. And the mullet. Can't forget about the mullet... I meant after 1992.................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted August 23, 2002 "Yeah PAX is Cable and is a rather terrible channel unless you like boring totally unoffensive shows like 7th Heaven and mediocre game shows like Supermarket Sweep and Shop till You Drop." Oh, the Supermarket game show channel? Didn't they used to have/still have Alf, or is that another station? Oops, I forgot. I'm sure The Man Show was #11 on the Best Show List... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted August 23, 2002 Wow...Sabrina the Teenage Witch is still on the air? Damn. I thought they cancelled that years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites