Guest Dames Edna Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Many of youare basing your ***** pics on SK's rants, so just to help you out, he has said that the TLC matches, in retrospect, were not indeed ***** matches. So now many of you can go edit your posts to change it WWF Bret/Owen WMX Bret/Austin Survivor Series Austin/Rock WM17 WCW Guerrero/Mysterio HH97 Guerrero/Jericho Fall Brawl 97 Benoit&Malenko/Saturn&Raven SS00 ECW Guerrero/Malenko HCS 95 Those, out of the matches I have seen, are what I feel ***** matches are. Many won't agree, but your own personal factors come into play when YOU feel what a ***** feels like. Honorable Mentions TripleH/Cactus RR00 ****3/4 Canadian Stampede 10 Man ****3/4 Guerrero/Malenko Uncensored 97 ****3/4 Michaels/Undertaker BB97 ****3/4 Michaels/Mankind MG 96 ****3/4 Austin/Triple H NWO01 ****3/4 Michaels/Austin WM14 ****1/2 Michaels/Hart SS97 ****1/2 - That match is based on pure emotion. It did have great pyschology, and it made every fan feel something special. In retrospect, the match's personal value for is heightened because of the real thing. I saw the match on PPV and what was completely dumbfounded, and intrigued by the whole thing. Since I didn't have the internet to blur my point of view on the match, I thought the whole experience was something special. When many give this match a ***, I can see why, but my original gut feeling told me this was awesome - maybe the pinnacle of my wrestling watching life. Unreal heat, unreal backstory, unreal finish - just awesome.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 What if one ***** match is better than another? Is that like a *****1/2 match? ***** is the absolute best match you have ever seen statistically speaking.
Guest Downhome Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Owen Hart vs Bulldog, European Title Tourney Final I can not believe that someone actually mentioned this match. It is hands down one of my personal favorite matches of all time, yet so few actually talk about the match. I wouldn't call it perfect, but it is one of MY favorites, on MY scale.
Guest EricMM Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 It did say WWF/E in the thread title you know... I disagree with WM3 being ***** or whatever. Maybe it's because I think wrestling has progressed, but I want something more exciting than Axe Handle Smashes. That match was B-O-R-I-N-G IMO.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 but I want something more exciting than Axe Handle Smashes hehe, nicely put
Guest godthedog Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 What if one ***** match is better than another? Is that like a *****1/2 match? ***** is the absolute best match you have ever seen statistically speaking. not necessarily, it just depends how you use the system. i've seen scores of four-star movies, but some four-star movies are better than others.
Guest bob_barron Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Many of youare basing your ***** pics on SK's rants, so just to help you out, he has said that the TLC matches, in retrospect, were not indeed ***** matches. So now many of you can go edit your posts to change it WWF Bret/Owen WMX Bret/Austin Survivor Series Austin/Rock WM17 WCW Guerrero/Mysterio HH97 Guerrero/Jericho Fall Brawl 97 Benoit&Malenko/Saturn&Raven SS00 ECW Guerrero/Malenko HCS 95 Those, out of the matches I have seen, are what I feel ***** matches are. Many won't agree, but your own personal factors come into play when YOU feel what a ***** feels like. Honorable Mentions TripleH/Cactus RR00 ****3/4 Canadian Stampede 10 Man ****3/4 Guerrero/Malenko Uncensored 97 ****3/4 Michaels/Undertaker BB97 ****3/4 Michaels/Mankind MG 96 ****3/4 Austin/Triple H NWO01 ****3/4 Michaels/Austin WM14 ****1/2 Michaels/Hart SS97 ****1/2 - That match is based on pure emotion. It did have great pyschology, and it made every fan feel something special. In retrospect, the match's personal value for is heightened because of the real thing. I saw the match on PPV and what was completely dumbfounded, and intrigued by the whole thing. Since I didn't have the internet to blur my point of view on the match, I thought the whole experience was something special. When many give this match a ***, I can see why, but my original gut feeling told me this was awesome - maybe the pinnacle of my wrestling watching life. Unreal heat, unreal backstory, unreal finish - just awesome. Hi- I can rate matches w/o SK's help thank you. I've seen the TLC matches many times and I still say *****
Guest CanadianChris Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 I disagree with WM3 being ***** or whatever. Maybe it's because I think wrestling has progressed, but I want something more exciting than Axe Handle Smashes. That match was B-O-R-I-N-G IMO. This post just goes to show how the American public has changed. Anything where someone doesn't fall 20 feet off a cage or a ladder and through a table or take 214 chair shots doesn't qualify as entertaining. If anything, wrestling itself has regressed. Savage/Steamboat still gets five stars. The rest of mine: Royal Rumble 1992 Hart/Hart (WM X) Michaels/Ramon (WM X - just watched it, and it's still great) Hart/Austin (WM XIII) Austin/Dude Love (OTE 98) Austin & HHH/Benoit & Jericho (RAW 2001)
Guest godthedog Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 bret/owen, summerslam 94 bret/flair iron man, 93 house show bret/austin, WM 13 yeah, i'm a tad biased.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 On the topic of standards: Simply put, I think Hart/Hart is much better than Hart/Bulldog, or Michaels/Taker, that I don't see how I could give both of them the same rating. By rating matches like that at the same levle as Hart/Hart, I would be demeaning the idea of ***** to begin with. Second, I think this is supposed to be best WWF matches, for those who seem to have veered off that. Still, bar none, I think Guererro/Mysterio is the best match in NA wrestling history, and Hart/Hart is the best in WWF history. Beyond that, it gets a little grainey, but that's pretty much the bottom line of my opinion.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Did Low Ki rape Bionic Rednecks sister? He seems to get off on saying that evey Low Ki match he's never seen couldn't reach ****.
Guest Flyboy Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Guess he hasn't seen Lo-Ki against American Dragon from ROH...
Guest Midnight Express83 Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Since this is SUBJECTIVE. I will list MINE. So it doesn't matter to anyone really: Rumble 92 Bret vs Flair Ironman Bret vs Owen SumSlam94 Bret vs Owen WM10 HBK vs Razor WM10 HBK vs Jannetty from 5/17/93 Austin vs Bret WM13 Austin vs Bret SurSer 96
Guest AngleSaults Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Big Show vs Tazz Al Snow vs Big Boss Man (Kennel Match) Brisco vs Patterson (Evening Gown Match) Jackie Gayada and Chris Harvard vs Bradshaw and Trish
Rob E Dangerously Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Ugh.. we have an idiot. I've seen the HHH has Heart banner before.. who used it before?
Guest razazteca Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 a few not mention and my favorites Summer Slam 95 ladder match HBK vs Razor Ramon, I liked this match more than the other ladder match from Wrestlemania 10 Regal vs Austin in a Strap Match from Smackdown 2001, very entertaining gimmick match not used anymore
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Did Low Ki rape Bionic Rednecks sister? He seems to get off on saying that evey Low Ki match he's never seen couldn't reach ****. I don't have a sister. Low Ki is so overrated it hurts.
Guest Kid Kablam Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Ok, could someone explain to me why the Benoit/Malenko vs Raven/Saturn is so great. I mean, it's a thoroughly enjoyable match. It's a very good tag team match, but I've seen better stuff specifically the Hog WIld Benoit vs Malenko.
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Savage/Steamboat was *****. It was perfect. It had monster heat, amazing timing, and was perfect in the ring.
Guest pete Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 The only one I have at 5* is Hart/Austin Wrestlemania 13. There have been plenty of matches close but not the cigar. That match had it all.
Guest bob_barron Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Big Show vs Tazz Al Snow vs Big Boss Man (Kennel Match) Brisco vs Patterson (Evening Gown Match) Jackie Gayada and Chris Harvard vs Bradshaw and Trish Jackie/Harvard v. Trish and Bradshaw- It's ****. IF YOU PUT A NEGATIVE IN FRONT!
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 Did Low Ki rape Bionic Rednecks sister? He seems to get off on saying that evey Low Ki match he's never seen couldn't reach ****. I don't have a sister. Low Ki is so overrated it hurts. Lo Ki.....over rated? That is like..... ILLEGAL TO SAY. *Kicks Bionic Redneck in the face 52 times*
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 52? Well, at least i'm not legitimately hurt, unlike most of Ki's opponents
Guest alfdogg Posted August 25, 2002 Report Posted August 25, 2002 OK, here are WWF/E matches that, in *my* view, are ***** Savage/Steamboat, WM3 Rumble 92 Bret/DBS, SS92 Bret/Owen, WM10 & SS94 Shawn/Razor, WM10 Bret/Austin, WM13 10-man tag, Stampede (sorry Tim) Cactus/HHH, RR2000 & NWO 2000 E&C/Hardys/Dudleys, WM2000 & SS2000 Jericho/Benoit, RR2001 Matches I have to check again: Jericho/Benoit, SS2000 HHH/Jericho, FL2000 HHH/Austin, NWO2001
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