Guest Sykotic2002 Report post Posted February 24, 2002 From Buck Woodward at 1wrestling: "We've recieved reports that last night at XPWs "Freefall" show in California, Vic Grimes was taken to the hospital following his match with Original Gangsta New Jack. The end of the match saw Jack push Grimes off what was allegedy a 40ft. scaffold through a pyramid of tables. EMTs came to the ring and he was taken out." Only XPW would have a 40ft. scaffold and have someone fall off it and endanger their life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SteveK Report post Posted February 24, 2002 Meltzer had some more details: He actually just grazed the pyramid of tables and did a nasty floor bump. The arena was cleared after that. He was tipped that 'something shocking'was going to happen, so this was either planned or they blew a shocking spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gangsteruwa Report post Posted February 24, 2002 Why do I get the feeling that XPW are going to exploit the hell out of this? Oh thats right because Rob Black is an opportunistic ahole. I really hope Grimes didn't get seriously injured. If that is what was supposed to happen (I highly doubt it was) then I am even more disgusted with XPW then before. On another note, I can't believe people are complaining about the "Buck Naked" match. "Oh boo hoo I didn't get to see a porn star get naked" Errr go buy the porn you jackoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted February 24, 2002 This tragic occurence(though preventable) will probably be exploited in an angle on XPW tv. When supreme got burnt so badly, Rob turned it into an angle. The guy should stick to low budget porno if ya ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted February 24, 2002 ECW did this at High Incident but it was hardly a 40ft bump taken by brian lee. Rob black is a money hungry asshole that cares nothing about the lives of his "wrestlers". This tragic occurence(though preventable) is probably going to be turned into an angle; as the incident with Supreme getting burned was. With a 40 ft scaffold, this was more than likely going to happen and i was sure i was going to read that Grimes or Newjack were either dead or seriously injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hit Squad Report post Posted February 24, 2002 Lets all just hope Grimes is okay. He's not a bad wrestler, he could stick to just wrestling. He doesn't need to fall off balconys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted February 24, 2002 The amazing part is that these are the same two guys who almost got killed when they fucked up a scaffold bump at Living Dangerously 2000. New Jack talked a lot about how that was the worst injury of his career. So what do they do? "Well gee, let's go find a HIGHER scaffold to fall off!" My god. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghast Report post Posted February 24, 2002 I don't ever watch the XPW so can anyone tell me how they turned the Supreme thing into an angle? And a Bucknaked Match? Who was this with? It didn't happen? Why? I agree that Grimes is a good wrestler when he just wrestles. He was fun to watch as one of the Baldies in ECW. Man forty feet onto the floor...I'm surprised that guy isn't dead or crippled for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted February 24, 2002 They killed the lights the minute one of the girl's tops came off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghast Report post Posted February 25, 2002 How the hell are pornstars even in a wrestling federation having matches to begin with? And I thought the match would start bucknaked. Did the fans riot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muswp1 Report post Posted February 25, 2002 From what I understand, the women's match was like a evening gown match except that the opponent was supposed to be stripped naked. And since public nudity is illegal in most areas, screwing the fans by turning out the lights was the only legal option availble. As for the scaffold match, this might sound a little bit cold but anyone who agrees to fight on a 40ft scaffold under the direction of someone with the the reuptation like Rob Black (the human torch known as Supreme anyone), should have seen this coming nine miles away and taken appropriate precautions. Anyone who would agree to that deserves what he gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghast Report post Posted February 25, 2002 I don't think it's Rob Black's fault they put the table out before Supreme. If he made it into an angle, that's bad, but the injury shouldn't be pinned on him totally. And public nudity is illegal? Then what are strip clubs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted February 25, 2002 About the Vic Grimes/New Jack near-tragedy from a few years ago: Apparently, that blown spot was the selling point behind this match. Since the two had "real life heat" and all, this was supposed to be some kind of "settle the score" deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaptRiker Report post Posted February 25, 2002 The worst thing is that no doubt they're gonna try and top themselves and go even higher up. The Living Dangeroulsy 2000 balcony spot was definately not 40 feet. I mean, geez, are they gonna have to jump out of an aeroplane and crash through the arena roof just to get a "holy shit" chant going nowadays?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted February 25, 2002 I'm glad these guys are doing this shit in front of 150 people instead of arenas because it kind of exposes how pathetic it is. It's also one of the reasons I resent Shane O Mac so much. If I wanna see these stunts, I'll go to the circus. Any idiot can jump from the balcony but let me see someone tell a compelling story within the confines of the ring and then I'll give these guys credit. New Jack and Grimes aren't wrestlers. They are below average stuntmen getting really hurt in a worked environment. That makes them idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stoned Raider707 Report post Posted February 26, 2002 I'm glad these guys are doing this shit in front of 150 people instead of arenas because it kind of exposes how pathetic it is. its was actully 800-900 but anyways. The buck naked match, XPW came through with their promise, Victoria Caine was stripped down. Did they promise nudity? no. The Scaffold match- At least this one ha footing, unlike the one at Living Danerously. It probly wasn't the smartest thing to do, But hey what a way to end a feud. Word is Grimes is bangd up, but is ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muswp1 Report post Posted February 26, 2002 Ok Ghast, let me be a little more clear. Strip clubs are not considered public nudity. What I was referring to is nudity in the public domain. Strip clubs have legal regulations to follow and are licensed to do business. Since I very much doubt Rob Black bothered to check the local laws and obtain the proper permits, Veronica Caine going fully nude would definately be illegal. In terms of Supreme, to not have trained EMT's and have untrained valets who don't know what their doing is Black's fault. The actual injury may have been Supreme's fault, but the extent of the injuries could have been more controlled and less extensive had Black decided to plan his event better. If Grimes is seriously hurt, then the blame (and the possible civil lawsuit) goes squarely on Black for his planning and his careless disregard for the consequences of his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EMAXSAUN Report post Posted February 26, 2002 ok here is a clip of the fall http://www.dreamwebnetwork.com/werehar....01V.MPG it was not a floor bump, 1wrestling made that up to make XPW look worse, it was just a blown spot. what happened was grimes missesed most of the tables and broke about 3 but hit his neck on the top rope, almost like when stone cold did the stun gun in ecw. after the show when people were leaving, they saw grimes walking around backstage, so the injury wasn't that bad. still, he is a good wrestler, and i feel bad that he had to do that crap, but he did take one hell of a bump though. and another thing about 1wrestling, they HATE xpw, they hate em, they chane their stories around, only report the negative news from xpw shows, and thats about it. on the 1wrestling.com page they didnt post the results, they just posted the accident. when grimes and new jack fell off of that balcony is ecw 1wrestling didnt point it out and make them look bad, because 1wrestling rode ecws ballsack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 26, 2002 Grimes really took a chance with his life on that bumb and that is a really stupid idea. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson before he gets paralized or worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ulf ist Gut Report post Posted February 26, 2002 i know this is gonna make me sound like a shit, but i don't really have much sympathy for him. He nearly killed himself last time he did and the idiot just didn't learn from it. I wouldn't wish any kind of injuries on anyone but i must say he seemed to have it coming. ps. Ulf ist Gut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muswp1 Report post Posted February 27, 2002 Gut, I agree with you completely, if Grimes is hurt it's his own damn fault for going up there even though the blame can be spread around to Rob Black and possibly New Jack. Depending on who you believe, 1wrestling.com or Meltzer, Grimes is either hospitalized or fine. Either way, any wrestler with two working braincells should be declining job offers from Rob Black. He is a wrestling fatality or lawsuit waiting to happen if he doesn't start opening his damn eyes and acting like his promotion is serious about staying solvent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted February 27, 2002 New Jack and Grimes aren't wrestlers. From the stuff I've seen (not XPW), I'd say Grimes is a pretty good wrestler. When he actually wrestles. They are below average stuntmen getting really hurt in a worked environment. That makes them idiots. Then that makes most wrestlers idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted February 28, 2002 another thing about 1wrestling, they HATE xpw, they hate em, they chane their stories around, only report the negative news from xpw shows, -emaxsaun that would be because it's xpw and there is nothing good to say about it other than that no one has died....yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Alright, I'm sorry for being so blunt but this fuckup Black has to be stopped from ever promoting a wrestling card ever again before someone dies. These guys need a union or SOMETHING, because week after week they are pushed further towards death, whether they are wrestlers or not this is insane. I'm not a big CZW fan either, but at least they have a handful of talent as well as the 'scissors through the arm flaming hall of knives loser is cursed by a druid cult and lynched' matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted March 1, 2002 ahah, I just saw the clip of the fall and laughed my ass off! why? because its' so funny to see some nimrod going "holy shit!" while a human being's life is in danger because he has to pay mortgages one way or another... I sincerely hope Grimes gets paralyzed. Why? not because I don't like him (except the fact he's an idiot) but because that'll be the one factor to make xpw close shop in a matter of weeks... but hey this is wrestling. A guy can fall to his death on live tv and nothing gets done about it, so what am I expecting... justice? ahahahah... not funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted March 1, 2002 I'm not a big CZW fan either, but at least they have a handful of talent as well as the 'scissors through the arm flaming hall of knives loser is cursed by a druid cult and lynched' matches. They actually don't do a lot of those kinds of matches anymore. Only people like Lobo, Zandig and Wifebeater do that stuff, really. And a lot of the guys they bring in from Big Japan. A guy can fall to his death on live tv and nothing gets done about it, so what am I expecting... justice? ahahahah... not funny... Once you really think about it, I don't know how you could even begin to compare this to the Owen tragedy. Only similarities I can think of off the top of my head were that they're both wrestlers and they both fell from somewheres high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites