Guest cynicalprofit Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 Keiji Muto - Triple Crown Champion 1- Keiji Muto vs. Toshiaki Kawada (4/14/01) ****1/4 2- Keiji Muto vs. Satoshi Kojima (6/4/01) ***1/2 3- Keiji Muto vs. Hiroshi Hase (6/6/01) ***3/4 4- Keiji Muto vs. Triple Crown Champion Genichiro Tenryu (6/8/01) ****1/2 5- Keiji Muto vs. Steve Williams (7/14/01) ***3/4 6- Keiji Muto vs. Yuji Nagata in the G-1 Climax finals (8/12/01) ****1/2 7- Keiji Muto vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (12/11/01) (snowflakes are from highspots where i ordered it)
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 Well it looks great according to the * ratings. How accurate those ratings are is debatable Oh, and Muto/Fujinami is bad. Wonder why there is no rating on that one.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 Umm...Mutoh/Tenryu is pretty ok, and the rest isn't really good at all. The Williams match is suprisingly decent, but a great match for Williams is still a decent match for everyone else, and the Fujinami match is indeed horrendous. The rest is kinda just there, except for the Hase match, which is really long and pretty borring.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 I enjoyed Muto/Hase. I don't think ***3/4 is that far off. Muto/Nagata is really enjoyable too, IMO
Guest Coffin Surfer Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 I hope that tape isn't your introduction to Puro.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 I would have dug Motoh/Hase if they had, you know, SOLD any of the work they were doing for most of the match. I'm always up for matwork, if it has a point, and when I see two guys working each other's legs for what seems like three days and then just no-sell all of it like nothing's happened, I tend to feel like I've been jipped. Great work, but not a very good match, because they didn't make the work they did count for anything. Mutoh/Nagata was enjoyable, but it seemed pretty by-the-numbers compaired to what I've seen from both guys. Plus, Motoh's goofy selling at the end was on the annoying side. Still, pretty good.
Guest J*ingus Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 I liked the tape well enough, even though a few matches (Fujinami, Hase) weren't great, and a few (Tenyru, Williams) are clipped somewhat.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted September 4, 2002 Report Posted September 4, 2002 NO this isnt my intro to Puro, im a fan of it already, but I bought it cause I like Muto....'s PANTS! Seriously the pants rule, but I am a Muto fan.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 There are better Mutoh matches out there, namely the G1 '91 finals but also a really nice match with Hashimoto as part of the G1 '96 tourni. Just an awesome match.
Guest Goodear Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 Man, that Hase match is just the drizzling crap on a stick. Anyone who saw any psychology in that mess could pretty much find the works of Shakespere in a issue of Hustler. No selling, all repetition. It was a spot fest without spots... I deam it restfest.
Guest Tim Cooke Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 Hash/Muto from G1 1995 was boring? Right. Tim
Guest RickyChosyu Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 Tim, he was referring to Mutoh/Hase from 2001, which I have to agree, was really friggin borring. Mutoh/Hashimoto was, more than likely, the last great match the guy had.
Guest Tim Cooke Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 Ah..........didn't interpret it right. Tim
Guest Jubuki Posted September 5, 2002 Report Posted September 5, 2002 I'm guessing the Mutoh/Hash match from "1996" must be the 95 as well, as 96 was the year it was split into Power vs. Technique and Hash had the bum leg, meaning Mutoh & Hash never met. Mutoh/Hase did indeed suck, though. As does the tape that started this thread.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted September 6, 2002 Report Posted September 6, 2002 The Mutoh/Hash match I got on a comp, which was supposed to be '96 NJ stuff, but oh well, not the first time that guy has screwed up dates. Meh.
Guest XdojimeX Posted September 6, 2002 Report Posted September 6, 2002 The love for the Mutoh/Hase match is pure twilight zone material if you ask me. It's a pretty baffling match to begin with, what with Hase ending up being Mr. X and proceeding to go 40 PLUS with Mutoh at Budokan just for the hell of it. And it ends up being just about the most aimless performance of either man's career. And that's saying a lot for Mutoh. But I really can't figure out what people are watching when they praise this match like they do. Meltzer's "70's style" comparison was way out in left field. Unless Kanemoto and Takaiwa circa '97 we're reincarnated as Jack Brisco and Dory Funk Jr. in some alternate universe where time and space has no meaning. Not to mention selling. *cues TZ theme*
Guest wolverine Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 The ONLY way those ratings can be accurate is if they are out of 6 stars.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Hehe, there is no way that Mutoh/Kawada is a ****+ match, IMO. More like ***, that said, I did enjoy the match particularly Mutoh's performance for some reason. I guess I found it comical.
Guest wolverine Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 The only thing I got out of that AJ vs. NJ 2001 tape, was that Satoshi Kojima MOTHERFUCKING OWNS. 'Bout it.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 I thought that was a very good tape (although I didn't learn much, I already knew Kojima owned ) apart from the shitty tag match
Guest wolverine Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 I only have one Kojima singles match, and that was against Sasaki at the 1/4/01 Dome, and he was awesome - worked his ass off. He's the kind of wrestler I like to watch, not lazy ass bums.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 As can be seen by my sig, I love Kojima (and Tenzan), and he suposedly really, really kicked ass against Tenryu at the 7/17/02 PPV. Meltzer-who has been a bit odd with his ratings lately, rated that match at ****3/4, and it is supposed to be THE match this year. I haven't seen it yet though
Guest wolverine Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 I'm interested in seeing the 12/01 tag with Kojima/Tenzan vs. Barton/Steele, which I heard was a great match (hard to believe though).
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Well, I'm a firm believer that TenKoji could have been one of the best tag teams ever (if they aren't already) Odd that you mentioned the Barton/Steele match, as I am just looking at a review of it now (the review is here if interested)
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