The One and Only Live WWA PPV Forum

[Guest Army Eye]

well I can understand a lackluster ending since they were planning on having Savage in the main event

[Guest Kevin Sullivan Booked My Divorce]

1wrestling said Lynn was released 2 days ago.   gee thanks!!!  where the fuck were you when we needed you?  we dont like being surprised!!!

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

No shit.

 

I guess the internet news people are behind the game right now.

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

probably because people generally dont give a shit about jerry lynn....

[Guest JHawk]

Looking at these recaps, I'm glad this show's costing me like three bucks because the guy I'm getting it off of is already making me another tape.  I'm looking forward to seeing the opener though

[Guest goodhelmet]

Or maybe the WWF did such a good job of making nobody care about Jerry Lynn that the dirt sheets didn't care to find out who was still employed. What a wasted opportunity! Lynn could have opened some PPVs with some quality opponents, getting himself, the cruisers, and his opponents over at the same time. He could have raised the quality of shows overall but the WWF did not give a shit.

 

Eddy-Lynn could be exciting but I don't want to sit through all that crap again to get there.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I agree Goodhelmet.

 

The WWF isn't serious about pushing cruisers.  They just released one of their best.

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

signing lynn was a waste of money for the wwf.....they are NEVER going to push the light heavyweight divison seriously so why waste the money on a guy who can only really deliver in that aspect? I do remember them somewhat pushing him in late april/early may (wasnt he the LW champ?) and it boming really bad. The wwf has several other guys (kaientai,crash holly,kidman) who are more over who can make that divison work. People just never bought into lynn....because he realy does have some BAD mic work.

[Guest TheDames7]

Wow...this show blew.  I think the worst thing other than the actual wrestling was the friggin camera work!  Half of the spots were missed by the cameramen, and I could barely see who did what in the first match, which was the best.  The only reason why I wanted to see this thing and its first.  

 

Nova going over kinda ticked me off because everyone was so impressive and doing things that were so innovative, yet they give the win to someone who's been on PPV for a long time, Nova.  The announcers put this match over as an opportunity for relative unknowns....yet they all jobbed.  

 

Dames

[Guest BernieLicious]

I get the feeling that everyone who purchased the show really didn't like it.  If there is another PPV, how many of you guys will shell out another $20?  I'm wondering how long they can put out crappy PPVs before people start not buying them.

[Guest goodhelmet]

"People just never bought into lynn....because he realy does have some BAD mic work."

 

No, people didn't buy into Lynn cos they had no idea who he was. there was no buildup or hyping of his debut. They gave him zilch in terms of storylines. They let him speak once when he called out JR at the Judgement Day PPV. I haven't seen him since. It has nothing to do with his mic skills or talent, rather it dealt with a lack of exposure.

 

You are right though. Signing Lynn was a waste of money because they did not utilize him at all. BUT that's not Lynn's fault!

 

And yeah, once again, this show was crappy. Damn, it has not been a good few days for wrestling!

 

Hey BPS, whaddya think of the show?

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

how is this not some of lynn's fault? Did he ever put on a decent match in the wwf? i remember a couple matches with him that were abousltey trainwrecks.....They didnt exactly push RVD (i really shouldnt bring him up, but i will) at first, he got over on his own, same with the the dudleys when they first debuted. Lynn did get a little mini push, and he failed with it.

[Guest Army Eye]

err RVD got a very generous push from the start.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Well...The opening match was awesome.

 

If the 3 way cruiser match had been good I would have considered it worth the money.

 

But it wasn't good.

 

Sabu vs. Crowbar was too long and too many blown spots.  

 

Kronik sucks...

 

I didn't hate JJ vs. Christopher as much as I did the rest of the card.

 

If only that 3 way could have been good.

[Guest Tony149]

I actually enjoyed the PPV. I thought the opening match was good. Very cool seeing Eddy (Eddie) back. Was surprised Lynn was there. Could be some good matches with him and Eddy. Lodi's sign on Chuck & Billy was funny. I thought Madden & Disco were funny on the mic. Borash is Borash. Good to see J.J. again. The Larry Z stuff was stupid. Don't know why he's so pissed over the "Living Legend" name. The camera work and lighting need to be worked on.

[Guest goodhelmet]

"Lynn did get a little mini push, and he failed with it."

 

I don't remember him ever getting any push of any kind. He did a couple of shows on Raw and Smackdown with little fanfare but compare his introduction into the WWF with Rhyno who was immediately billed as E&C's crazy buddy. Or Justin Credible, who became X-Pac's partner. Or building Tajiri through being Regal's manservant (which is something I disagreed with) but you get the point. They were put in positions intended for them to succeed. Lynn wasn't given that chance. Oh well, bring on Lynn vs. Guerrero dammit!!!

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

RVD was over 5 seconds into his INVASION match with Jeff Hardy.

 

He was so over that they pushed him to make the Alliance more important.

 

He was too over so after the alliance went away they stopped pushing him.

 

Last I checked...he was still over and they still weren't pushing.

 

Yes he got an initial push...but it didn't come until after he was over.

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

feuding with jeff hardy isnt exactly a "generous" push.....he had a pretty good match with him with a few good bumps that got the crowd popping for him even more. Lynn put on shit matches in the wwf..

[Guest LynnSucksDick]

err RVD got a very generous push from the start.

And Lynn didnt? He won the LW title on his 1st match, and the fans still didnt give a fuck. The fans dont really give a shit about a CW divison.

 

Actually they gave a shit about Kidman, then Kidman got injured, and lost all of his face pops .

 

Lynn can fuck himself he sucks IMO.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I didn't hate this show so much...because my expectations were so low anyway.

 

I'd hardly call it a disapointment...I knew what I was getting into when I pushed the button to order it.

 

I'm glad the 6 man was good.  I too enjoyed seeing JJ again.

 

Was it worth the money?  Probably not.

 

Was I more disappointed in this than No Way Out?  No.

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

How is giving someone the light heavy weight title in his first match NOT a push? he won the title....and did shit with it, so the wwf did the right thing and stopped pushing him. I do remember the HORRENDOUS interview he gave at judgement day that was a huge signal to stop pushing the guy. The guy has no chrisma (never did in ecw) and just will not fit in in the wwf.

[Guest TheDames7]

And yeah, once again, this show was crappy. Damn, it has not been a good few days for wrestling!

Man, last nights Ring of Honor show blew me away, so this week has been pretty good to me.  

 

Dames

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

The only time people cared about Jerry Lynn was when he was feuding with RVD.  

 

And when you look back at his WWF career...what are people going to remember about Jerry Lynn?  His LW title?  NO.  The match he had with RVD that was edited for TV?

 

Yep.

[Guest X-Factor Corperation]

Here's hoping the WWF doesn't sue them.

 

Jerry Lynn's been injured.

 

Anywayz, Jerry Lynn won a title off of Crash, a guy who's title wasn't recognised and he didn't have the title on raw or smackdown. He won it off of a guy, Dean Malenko, who had it for months and it wasn't mentioned.

 

Afterwards he wasn't put into a major angle and jobbed to Jeff Hardy on Smackdown after it looked like the angle'd get interesting. Then he was stuck on Metal where he won a match, and a match with RVD on Heat. Afterwards he was injured.

 

Now Rob Van Dam was given a PPV match, and in one of his early matches he had a bunch of people behind the commentators chanting RVD, RVD. That got the croud to notice his style. Then he was given a PPV match where he could show his stuff... not to mention he kinda acted like a face.

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

RVD was over from the start because he was more of an established ecw star than lynn....RVD then did a good job of expanding those pops by putting on exicting matches and getting over with the crowds. Do u really the wwf should have given lynn the same treatment as RVD? He is not well known....and as much as i cant belive im saying this BPS is right....lynn got over after working with RVD and from then on didnt do shit to sustain his pops. I actually felt the wwf give him a good little push seeing as lynn really aint that great to begin with.

[Guest KOR420]

Didn't you guys notice who pushed disco towards steiner when he tried to run away? that was hiriyoshi Tenzan!

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I didn't notice that until after I read a recap on the internet. The announcers didn't mention it at all.

[Guest Tony149]

They didn't have to mention it. As most people have no idea who he is.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

That's true.

 

But if they had mentioned it...I'd have known...and that's what counts.

[Guest Tony149]

LOL. Yeah, it does.