Rabid Puppy Dog?

[Guest Anglesault]

Well, According to Smackdown, Angle/Benoit 2 is coming. For some reason, this just feels like another "Well, the fans like them, but we don't want to push them, so just give them something to do," feud, just like Angle/Benoit 1. Now the matches will be great, but they are both heels, and we all know how well the crowds get into those heel vs. heel matches. And before you suggest that one of them turn, remember who we are talking about. They have quite possibly two of the worst face characters in the WWF right now. (I know you guys like face Benoit, but in my opinion, there is very little that is more boring or ridiculously forced sounding than Face Benoit) So anyway, will their matches be able to save them and get the crowd into it? Or is this feud doomed to fail? Also, why does the WWF insist on booking them in these God damned place holder feuds? Why won't they just let them move into the main events and fight with RVD over the world title? Are Triple Brockertakers bad matches so important to the company that they should over shadow the real workers? Also, who would win? Neither man EVER wins! They both need a win.

 

I guess we will just have to rely on them to overcome the odds and create a good feud that has meaning and does good for both guys.

[Guest Anglesault]

It should also be mentioned that Edge got the upper hand over Eddy AGAIN.

[Guest BigPoppaKev]

I would like to see this feud based on the matches only. The story probably won't be that good. I don't really like heel/heel feud. But I think Heyman maybe able to pull it off. From the looks of it last night it got kicked off on the right foot.

[Guest Anglesault]

Remember Angle/Jericho from earlier this year? Fans sat on their hands.

 

Hmm.

Benoit and Angle booked in a feud that could be heatless.

Eddy being made to be a moron in every encounter with Edge

RVD being lined up to be fed to Hunter

Jericho Jobbing cleanly to an old man

Booker without direction and making a token appearence on Raw.

 

Meanwhile

Edge is superman

Brock and Taker are main eventing

HHH had a belt made for him.

 

They ARE doing this to spite us, aren't they?

[Guest Nevermortal]

Actually Face Chris Benoit in the great run that was May 2001 to King of the Ring was pretty damned good.

[Guest Anglesault]

The matches were great. The character was terrible. Benoit is NOT funny. Don't try to make him.

[Guest AndrewTS]

"Know you guys like face Benoit.." Huh?

 

We like his wrestling, but I think most of us are readily able to admit his flaws. We admit he sucks on the mic, and that's what hurts his ability to get a solid push. However, most of us also like a wrestler based on his wrestling skills, so we could give two shits about whether or not a guy can cut a decent promo, as long as it's not overly awful and time consuming. (I won't name names...)

 

Still...this is risky, but Heyman may be able to pull it off, because Lord knows the rest of the bookers couldn't. Generally they all have their heads up their asses, and would probably do something like make Benoit act like a face by dressing up in a wolverine or dog costume and making appearances at kids' birthday parties.

[Guest Anglesault]

"Know you guys like face Benoit.." Huh?

 

We like his wrestling, but I think most of us are readily able to admit his flaws. We admit he sucks on the mic, and that's what hurts his ability to get a solid push. However, most of us also like a wrestler based on his wrestling skills, so we could give two shits about whether or not a guy can cut a decent promo, as long as it's not overly awful and time consuming. (I won't name names...)

parties.

I think he's MUCH better heel, because that "silent killer" works PERFECTLY on him, and it really can't be transfered to a face that well.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

We like his wrestling, but I think most of us are readily able to admit his flaws.

No we aren't.

 

At least, that's what I read and what certain people think.

[Guest AndrewTS]

"Know you guys like face Benoit.."  Huh?

 

We like his wrestling, but I think most of us are readily able to admit his flaws.  We admit he sucks on the mic, and that's what hurts his ability to get a solid push.  However, most of us also like a wrestler based on his wrestling skills, so we could give two shits about whether or not a guy can cut a decent promo, as long as it's not overly awful and time consuming.  (I won't name names...)

parties.

I think he's MUCH better heel, because that "silent killer" works PERFECTLY on him, and it really can't be transfered to a face that well.

Oh, without a doubt. However, for some reason they opted to push Benoit as the face in all this. Perhaps they've got some solid plans for him, and maybe he's improved his promo work. You can't fault them for trying something new and pushing Benoit. However, just sticking with the same thing may not be a healthy attitude to take.

 

Plus they may be saving Angle's face turn for later, evidenced by the fact that they're not going to try to turn him face for 9-11. However, if the peons don't like it, fuck 'em--the matches will still kick ass.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

I recall Angle getting cheered over Jericho in their matchup, but that got fucked up due to Kane, I think.

 

Angle and Benoit could tease a feud, and then unite as a duo to just beat the crap out of guys.

 

If the tag belts floated, of course.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Benoit was great as a face in WCW during Raven, DDP & Booker T feuds.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

You don't have to turn one of them face; one can just act the face in the matches, and it'll work fine.

 

This does feel like a placeholder program, but what a program it'll be. You can easily establish Angle or Benoit as the heel in the eventual match in about 2 minutes--these two are good enough to make one guy clearly the heel and one the face in the actual in-ring showdown, and that's all they need.

 

Won't be the best, but hey--it's a LOT better than them wrestling Mark Henry or Rikishi, thank god.

[Guest Leena]

I'd really enjoy an Angle-Benoit feud. It guarantees exciting matches.

 

It's better than seeing the talent in there with HHH, thus making the whole show boring.

[Guest Trivia247]

i had a feeling it was gonna be Benoit Angle...

You can tell that Angle is gonna be going against Brock in the near future, and we may see Angle vs Benoit gonna be the Number one contenders match At the PPV for the NEXT ppv against Brock, since Brock will beat Taker.

[Guest Mole]

Okay, Anglesault, you don't seem to like any feud that Angle is in.

 

Who do you want him to feud with???

 

Benoit and Angle are two of the best wrestlers in WWE. How is this a bad thing? So what if their feud blows, if they are doing ****+, who cares if their feud isn't that great.

 

Rey and Angle didn't have a great feud, but they had pretty good match.

 

Angle and Edge had some good matches, but their feud was boring, right?

 

My point is, if Benoit and Angle go out there, and put out some great matches, then let them feud.

 

Besides, Angle is on the verge of a face turn, he is getting heel pops left and right. In this feud, Benoit will be the heel, and Angle the face.

Plus, if they are going to go along with the Angle/Brock feud at WM, then Angle would be the better face than Brock, IMHO.

 

I agree with you on one thing though, Benoit is much better as a heel, he sucks as a face.

[Guest Dames Edna]

I agree, AS complains about everything Angle does. He's gonna be fueding with Chris F'N Benoit. I'd rather see Angle have an awesome match than have him holding the title and fueding with Triple H. Everything isn't about titles, its about being entertained. Eddie will never hold the World Title but I'll joyously watch every one of his matches.

 

PS. Eddie got the upper hand on Edge last week, in fact he made Edge look like a total tit. Quit nitpicking and enjoy the splendor of Smackdown

[Guest goodhelmet]

i think it's a case of AS living out his gimmick regardless of the circumstances. hell, for me this is a godsend!!! benoit vs. angle. not being squashed by taker, not jobbing to hhh, not being fed to brock. instead, i have **** matches to look forward to and some actual reason to buy a ppv. long live the two best the fed has to offer!!!!!

[Guest DJ Jeff]

I would definately like to see another Angle vs. Benoit fued. Okay, the fued itself would be boring more than likely, but that match would be ***+. Plus, this match could be to determine the #1 Contender for the WWE Title at No Mercy. If Angle wins, Anglesault will be more than happy.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

If it means anything, Benoit was laughing at Angle calling him the rabid puppy dog and the rabid chiuaua(SP?)

[Guest XdojimeX]

"Benoit was great as a face in WCW during Raven, DDP & Booker T feuds."

 

Yeppers. Benoit's worked face in the ring just as effectively as he has as a heel. Benoit's size (or lack thereof) coupled with his ferocity and credibility in the ring always made for a compelling babyface worker in WCW. The guy knows a great comeback just as well as he does being a ring general. And the underdog who can bust your ass always works. Different crowds back then though, conditioned to the ring more than the mic and the skit. He didn't have to talk much.

 

WWF got it all wrong with his face run last year. Comedy and Benoit ain't exactly PB & J. That medal angle was just...ugh. Might as well have just nicked him the Neutered Wolverine at that point. By the time the Austin feud came around and he had a strong heel to play off of they started to figure it out but it was too little too late.

 

On Angle/Benoit, I think if they actually sell these guys as the two best "Pound for Pound" wrestlers in the world and keep UT and HHH's compensation problems out of it they could make it work. Make it about bragging rights and the work will carry itself. The crowds have been aching to cheer Angle for awhile now, and a strong foil like Benoit can help that along.

[Guest Caliban]

The crowds have been aching to cheer Angle for awhile now, and a strong foil like Benoit can help that along.

Exactly. This is what I said before. Angle can turn face without changing his character at all. Like it or not, Benoit is nowhere near as over as Angle, and fans will cheer Angle over Benoit easily.

[Guest midnight_burn]

I don't mind Angle and Benoit feuding, it'll produce some great matches, and at least they won't be being fed to Taker or Brock (hopefully).

 

As long as the feud isn't over something stupid like Kurt's medals again it should be at least decent, just let both men do their thing in the ring.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

I honestly didn't think a whole lot of angle/benoit. Yeah the matches were good, but boring at times and angle/austin and benoit/jericho were far superior feuds.

[Guest nikowwf]

I don't think Angle / Benoit will be heel / heel. I think Angle will be the face in the feud. People want to cheer him. People chant "you suck", but them pop for his moves. When he wins, you don't get that "damn, the heel won" heat, cause a large % of the audience is happy.

 

Still you make a good point of it being a placeholder feud. At least its a feud that keeps Angle in the upper card, instead of using him to elevate a lower guy.

 

Some house shows this month have Angle / Brock main events, btw. I think it would be best for everyone if Anglesault stayed away from those arenas.

 

Niko

[Guest dreamer420]

I would like to see Benoit and Angle feud if there is a decent purpose to it. They should make a best of 7 series or do something a little different instead of the WWE feud formula that we all love so much.

[Guest Brian]

I'd like to see it because Benoit seems much fresher at this point and is less WWE than he was at that time, and hopefully angle has improved to the point, but I still have my doubts. But they always had good matches, just nothing great yet. That eight minutes of Eddie/Benoit on that one RAW before Eddie left was gold, pure gold though; and I'd rather see that.

[Guest Strike Force!]

They'd better turn somebody face if they are going to do the Angle/Benoit feud. I'd like to see it. But I'm not confident because Vince still thinks this is the ATTITUDE~!! era and faces and heels just aren't cool

Whatever.

 

Anyway, a face Angle would work if they have a pinpoint at which Angle actually does turn face. Come to think of it, I'd rather see Benoit turn face than have a stupid heel vs. heel feud. I hate those things. I actually dont mind face vs. face feuds because they can be pretty intense and they typically tease and/or preface of heel turn.

[Guest Anglesault]

Hell, I like this feud just for the matches that it will bring. My only problem is that it may hurt one of them in the long run, not only because they are both heels, but because they both need a win. Recently, the WWF has gotten the "smart" idea of booking two guys who need a win against each other.

 

However, I think benoit/Angle matches will be able to cancel out the stupid booking, and my worries aren't that major, so I like the feud. I'm sorry if you misunderstood that.

 

My main problem with the Rey feud is that both guys needed the win. Look where Rey is now.

 

My problem with the Edge feud is that Edge was involved.

[Guest Dames Edna]

I'd say Rey is even hotter by getting the rub from Angle. Where is your logic behind insinuating Rey has gone down the tubes?

 

Brian, unfortunatly the WWE does not comfortable by putting Eddie into a high mid card fued. Sure his battles with RVD were big on the RAW side, but they weren't exactly high on the WWE totem pole. Benoit/Eddie may happen sometime, but much how it was aborted for WM17 - we get Benoit/Angle instead.