Halo 2

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

The Halo 2 Trailer

 

or

 

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/halo2trailermirrors.html

 

It's 36 meg, and you'll have to have Windows Media Player 9..but..DAMN.

*edit* For those with slower comps (raises hand) the Quicktime ones on HBO run much better.

 

...they need to get this game out. NOW.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

After reading about the price cut coming for the X Box, one thing occured to me. Halo is probably the only must have exclusive game to the X Box..thats just sad..

[Guest redbaron51]

I have a funny feeling that there is going to be a Halo 3 some time .

 

But ya this game so totally owns

[Guest WukenBloodstar]

Yeah..right whatever MarvinisaLunatic. So i'm guessing that Dead To Rights, Project Gotham Racing, Morrowind(Final Fanasty what? FF blows ASS compared to Morrowind) The upcoming Tom Clancy games, Blinkx, Sega GT 2002(Which to me was better than the supreme load of crap known as The Grand Turismo series of games. Played all of them, hated all of them)

 

I suppose I should go trade my X-Box in and buy a PS2 with the following load of dissappointing games..oh wait, the only game I liked for PS2 was Ace Combat 4. Too bad it wasn't the PS2 that died and not the Dreamcast(Which was a better system) Besides..The X-Box is better all around than the GC and PS2. X-Box rules PS2 can bite my ass B) Gamecube can rot in hell

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Hey a fanboy! Haven't we already beaten this "my console is better" discussion to death? Speaking as an owner of Both Xbox and Gamecube, I find myself playing the Cube that much more. Just throwing that out.

 

Regarding Halo 2, I'm getting it. that simple.

[Guest WukenBloodstar]

Me? A Fanboy? I looked at all three systems before I bought The X-Box thank you very much. I used my friends PS2 for months to get an a view on it. Why don't you call me a mark also? Hmmm? I suppose because I support the X-Box, that makes me a fan boy...silly me

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

It's a matter of what games you like, I suppose, my friend has an X-box and a GC ,and plays on the X-box a lot more than his GameCube.

 

On topic: Halo 2 looks really good.

[Guest redbaron51]

one thing about the X-Box that i like is how big the controller is (i have really big fingers, and compared to PS2 and Cube...um no.)

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Yeah..right whatever MarvinisaLunatic. So i'm guessing that Dead To Rights, Project Gotham Racing, Morrowind(Final Fanasty what? FF blows ASS compared to Morrowind) The upcoming Tom Clancy games, Blinkx, Sega GT 2002(Which to me was better than the supreme load of crap known as The Grand Turismo series of games. Played all of them, hated all of them)

 

I suppose I should go trade my X-Box in and buy a PS2 with the following load of dissappointing games..oh wait, the only game I liked for PS2 was Ace Combat 4. Too bad it wasn't the PS2 that died and not the Dreamcast(Which was a better system) Besides..The X-Box is better all around than the GC and PS2. X-Box rules PS2 can bite my ass B) Gamecube can rot in hell

My cousin has all 3 systems, and he rented Morrowind for the X Box while I was up there over the weekend. Uh. I suppose if you like staring at loading screens for 2-3 minutes, its a fun game. Comparing any FF game to Morrowind is a bad idea.

 

Dead to rights looks good, but I've heard tons of reviews saying its nothing like the game that obviously inspired it, Max Payne.

 

Nintendo doesn't like racing games, and Playstation is stuck on a very few racing games, so it was smart for Microsoft to try and get good racing games. But thats not a must have game, since I know tons of people who don't like racing games.

 

You say the X Box is better overall than the Gamecube and PS2, but both of those systems have put out many more quality must have games than the X Box. The X Box can have the most impressive tech specs and features, but there have to be games to play on it or else it doesn't matter.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

From somebody who plays Morrowind regularly..

 

Once the initial character loading passes, it's fast as hell. Unlike some other games.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

The gamecube has virtually no loading times.

The memory card loads a bit slow some times, but thats not a problem.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

Memory card? I don't miss those. At all.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

<<<Yeah..right whatever MarvinisaLunatic. So i'm guessing that Dead To Rights, Project Gotham Racing, Morrowind(Final Fanasty what? FF blows ASS compared to Morrowind) The upcoming Tom Clancy games, Blinkx, Sega GT 2002(Which to me was better than the supreme load of crap known as The Grand Turismo series of games. Played all of them, hated all of them)>>>

 

Eh throwing out a list of B grade genre titles as an argument about how great X-Box's library is doesn't work very well. Calling universally loved series "supreme loads of crap" doesn't either. You're welcome to like what you like, but don't try to act like you're being objective.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

Actually.."universally" assumes that everybody everywhere loves something. Not everybody loves one particular game, no matter how "great" it may be.

 

Now I'm no expert (like some people seem to be) but the Xbox isn't quite as down and out as some people make it to be. It's fairly comparable with the Dreamcast, except Sony can't out-hype (advertise, riiight) MS like they did Sega.

[Guest MrRant]

I just notice how Nintendo just keeps plowing along minding their own shit and sticking to the game machine motto. Yes I own a Cube but will be getting something else as well and it seems like Sony and MS just keep trying to duke it out while the big N just keeps racking up sales and solid titles.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

Why are people mentioning loading times as if short loading times make a system? If that was the case cartridge systems would still be in production!

 

Obviously I would prefer minimal loading times, but if the game is worth it, I'm not really bothered.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

And to be fair, every system either has a good library, or will/should have a good one. Contrary to popular belief, none of them suck. Wow. I know it's hard to believe..but it just may be true.

 

I'll let your heads explode now.

 

~*~

 

Rant on:

 

 

..and to the uninformed one that said it..Morrowind is NOT a "B" grade game. It's revieved great reviews almost all the way across the board (90+ out of a 100), and the only gripes people can really come up with it are that the Xbox version dosen't have the PC mods or the console, and it's not linear enough for some people. There are just so many things to do, and so many ways to play (you can make your own spells, enchant weapons, characters..), and the number of quests is just staggering. The only thing I've encountered like it are the previous Elder Scrolls games, and the Fallout series. The preformance is just amazing, considering some high-powered computers don't even run it well. Unlike the PC version, the Xbox dosen't run like molasses after three hours. The loading times are almost nonexistant, and don't get in the way of gameplay. It's tough if you don't know what you're doing, but it forces you to think instead of just plowing through it. It's a really, really good game if you're an RPG fan, so don't just stick a "B grade game" label on something just because you hate the console.

 

Rant over.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

<<<Actually.."universally" assumes that everybody everywhere loves something. Not everybody loves one particular game, no matter how "great" it may be.>>>

 

Eh change "universally loved" to "universally critically acclaimed" and it's pretty much true. Nitpicking doesn't change the fact that calling the FF and GT series "supreme loads of crap" is a pretty pathetic and fanboyish argument.

 

<<<Morrowind is NOT a "B" grade game.>>>

 

I stuck a B grade label on the list in general, and I'll stick a specific B grade label on DtR, PGR and probably on the Tom Clancy games when they come out. I said in another thread that Morrowind was the only X-Box game I'm actually interested in, so I don't have anything against it. You overrate its critical acclaim, however. Several magazines called it directionless and boring, and it's average score on Game Rankings was a solid, but hardly spectacular, 87%, which, for the record, is 5% lower than FFX's 92% and 7% lower than GT3's 94%. That doesn't prove anything, but you brought up critical acclaim.

 

<<<Now I'm no expert (like some people seem to be) but the Xbox isn't quite as down and out as some people make it to be. It's fairly comparable with the Dreamcast, except Sony can't out-hype (advertise, riiight) MS like they did Sega.>>>

 

Sony doesn't need to do anything, they're on cruise control and are just letting the systems sell. Nin, however, can certainly out-hype M$, and the way they do that is to release monster titles like Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime, while M$ waits for third parties to release PS2 ports. Ad budget is less important than killer aps.

 

M$ isn't dead yet, but the lack of quality titles on the horizon (outside of Halo 2 and Doom 3, but those are both way off) doesn't bode well. If you're in last place, you need something big to get out of last place, and X-Box doesn't have it.

[Guest redbaron51]

M$ isn't dead yet, but the lack of quality titles on the horizon (outside of Halo 2 and Doom 3, but those are both way off) doesn't bode well. If you're in last place, you need something big to get out of last place, and X-Box doesn't have it.

 

 

*cough* online play *cough*

[Guest KoR Fungus]

Online play is a niche market, and it's never helped a system out before (see Saturn, DC). The few hundred thousand people that bother with it are probably going to be very happy with it, but it's not going to have a big impact on total sales. Never has.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

With online play, Im not convinced that there are enough console gamers with broadband access. Until there enough console gamers with broadband access, console online games will definitely be a niche market.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

"You're welcome to like what you like, but don't try to act like you're being objective. "

 

If you are going to lecture someone on objectivity, you really shouldn't be using childish linux fanboy terms like M$. And I don't know why you are calling some of those games B grade, but it would seem it's because they arn't "brand names" like GT, Tony Hawk, and GTA, rather than the actual quality of play (PGR for instance smokes the GT series).

[Guest WukenBloodstar]

PGR and Sega GT 2002 are easily better than the GT series. My major dislike of the GT series is the handling, no matter what care I had in GT1, 2 or 3. The damn thing was like a brick, I want to turn, so it turns slightly, skids off the track and slams into the wall. It was highly annoying, so I took the disc out after an hour of play and broke the fucking thing. The only game I play on PS anymore is Metal Gear Solid and Xenogears

[Guest redbaron51]

i never had a gripe with the handling on Grand Turismo.

 

its just...um...

 

i don't like driving my parents cars. I rather have Ferrari's and shit like that

[Guest KoR Fungus]

<<<If you are going to lecture someone on objectivity, you really shouldn't be using childish linux fanboy terms like M$.>>>

 

And how exactly would typing MS make me more objective? I'll admit that I don't like Microsoft, but I never once used that as a point against X-Box.

 

<<<And I don't know why you are calling some of those games B grade, but it would seem it's because they arn't "brand names"

like GT, Tony Hawk, and GTA>>>

 

...

 

Never said that, never said anything like that. Tony Hawk is a franchise, and I hate the series. I didn't like the original and I like it even less with each passing release. Suikoden, Suikoden 2 and Vagrant Story are some of my favorite games of all time, and they're not in a big name series. I call games B grade if I've played them and think they're B grade, or, in the case of DtR, if they get bad reviews, in which case there's no reason to even play them.

 

<<<rather than the actual quality of play (PGR for instance smokes the GT series).>>>

 

Groan. PGR is innovative, but it's also shallow. To say it "smokes" the GT series is ridiculous. You might prefer it because of easier (and less realistic) steering and faster cars, but it's just fluff compared to GT.

 

Again, you're welcome to like what you like, but saying that PGR smokes GT as if it's some sort of undeniable fact when 95%+ of the critics and probably a similar number of gamers would disagree is silly.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

I thought for sure that with Ridge Racer 64 on N64, there would be a RR game on the Gamecube..So far there hasn't been much in the way of racing outside of that one San Fran Rush ripoff, A bad port of Crazy Taxi and the Simpsons game..I could go for a good racing game, possibly NASCAR Thunder 2003..

[Guest redbaron51]

Groan. PGR is innovative, but it's also shallow. To say it "smokes" the GT series is ridiculous. You might prefer it because of easier (and less realistic) steering and faster cars, but it's just fluff compared to GT.

 

Again, you're welcome to like what you like, but saying that PGR smokes GT as if it's some sort of undeniable fact when 95%+ of the critics and probably a similar number of gamers would disagree is silly.

 

 

Ummm have you even played PGR?

 

The only thing is different between PGR and GT is that GT you can buy cars. PGR you have to earn them (which is very hard).

 

Its not even easy as well as the AI is challenging and will fight for the position, each race is a different goal, and if you don't obtain that goal its a failure. Unlike GT series you can still come in six and basically get some cash for it, and its no problem. And if its less realistic, how come they say Gran Turismo is the most realistic racing game, yet there is no damage on it except for oil change.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

<<<The only thing is different between PGR and GT is that GT you can buy cars. PGR you have to earn them (which is very hard).

 

Its not even easy as well as the AI is challenging and will fight for the position, each race is a different goal, and if you don't obtain that goal its a failure.>>>

 

Talk about two statements contradicting each other, sheesh. The only thing that's different between PGR and GT3 is that in GT3 you buy cars? Obviously not, since the AI is different, the objectives are different, and, last I checked, GT3 didn't have the kudos system. The games are completely different, and I don't like the changes made in PGR. It's too structured. I want freedom to just race as I see fit, not to have to meet certain hard objectives along the way. I didn't like that in GT liscense tests, and I don't like it in PGR.

 

And yes, I have played PGR and no, it is not anywhere near as in depth as GT3's simulation mode. There are far fewer cars in PGR. The cars are far less customizable in PGR. And while I'll admit that GT3 really should have a damage model, the reason everyone says it's the most realistic racing game is because it does the best job of simulating how the cars actually drive.

 

Hell, even most X-Box sites and mags that reviewed PGR admitted it was worse than GT3. This isn't exactly a highly debated topic. The only time you see people trying to argue that PGR is better than GT3 is when they're trying to argue that X-Box has a quality library.

[Guest MrRant]

I own a Cube and am not very objective but based on quality the 2 systems I would want to own right now are:

 

PS2 - GTA3, Final Fantasy, GT3, SOCOM and a few others.

 

Gamecube (which I already had but bought it the day it came out because of the following games) - Rouge Squadron, Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Monkey Ball, Madden and almost all the other games.

 

The X- BOX had Halo and RAW and that was about it for me.

 

The truth is that the PS2 has the biggest library plus backwards compatibility for most games which are huge pluses plus they have a goodly amount of quality titles.

 

The Gamecube has a lower amount of titles compared to the X-Box and PS2 but this Q3 and Q4 it is going to change because of the amount of strong titles being released including: Mario Sunshine, Turok, Metroid Prime, Super Monkeyball 2, Enternal Darkness, and a few others.

[Guest WukenBloodstar]

I know that GT is a good game, but..I do like racing games, but at the same time..I want them to be fun. I guess GT didn't suit those two for me. PGR did for a while..strange,but..I find myself going back to Tokyo Xtreme Racer 1 and 2 for DC.