Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Jerry Jarrett has reportedly decided to reduce the amount of comedy in NWA:TNA events, instead relying on a more serious approach and one that emphasizes in ring action. Jarrett believes most of the buys for TNA events come from hardcore wrestling fans, most of which hear about the shows from the internet. Credit: Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted September 5, 2002 The experiment gets more and more interesting. Now it's not juat a PPV only show, but one that's aiming to cater mainly towards the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I don't know if it's mostly internet..but..perhaps there's just a lot of fans out there unsatisified with the "wrestling" product we get with the WWE? Who knows, a promotion based around pure wrestling could suceed..if the ringwork is good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Kind of doubt that. The first part, that is. Not the second. Although, I don't think such a fed would reach the levels of heights WWF or WCW did. It's hard to sell tee shirts and lunchboxes and so on if you're selling wrestlers and not catchphrases. Not to mention the mainstream would shun it since "it's just wreslting" and that side of the business has been exposed as "completely fake" by the public at large. Kind of like what Bret Hart said: "You ever notice [after a match] there's no bruise? But people don't come up to you and say 'Hey, you're a great actor.' They say 'you're some phony wrestler.'" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I liked the sound of that when first read it. At least a company is listening to the fans and trying to give them what they want. Obviously the fans are in love with the X Division and have been since the second week, so Jarrett making the X Division the focus of his shows proves something to me. He also put the world title on The Truth which was a pretty popular decision on the net, mainly because Shamrock wasn't going anywhere as champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted September 5, 2002 The X Division can be marketable. Give them some promo time (pre-match, occassional backstage) about 10 mins per show, and give most of the time to wrestling. Enough time to focus the personalities, and bring the wrestling. AJ is marketable, so is Low Ki, Red and the SATs, Lynn/Yang not so much, but they're great role players. Low Ki, especially is a goldmine, his mic skills are surprisingly good and he's got that intimidating look and kung-fu movie voice, and he does all this cool shit. I've even got a good t-shirt slogan for him: "Low Ki- He'll kick you in the face." Sorry this is such a scattershot post, i'm studying at the same time and distracted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 The X division is so marketable that I'm worried it will be too much for the NWA to handle. Sooner or later the fans aren't going to want crap like disco inferno and the dupps and they are going to start wanting X matches during every show. In my opinion the NWA would be smart to trim the fat and release all the wrestlers that they know the fans don't want to see. After doing that they should pick up more talent for the X division and base the company around that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 That's a smart move for now. Most of the fans online want wrestling. The way the shows were going, they were booking them like they had a TV slot on cable. You could still market guys like The Truth and the X-division. Just because you'll have more wrestling doesn't mean you can't develop characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted September 5, 2002 What if they went so far as to release all the heavyweights and make the X division its sole property? I know as part of the NWA that can't happen due to the NWA title history, but I could really see that getting over. Imaging if they made it big and WWE cruiserweights were leaving to come to NWA as their WWE contracts expired. WWE can push the hosses, NWA pushes the wrestlers who wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I'm hoping that since the NWA is giving the fans what they want with the X Division, that they will also take away the crap the fans are not wanting to pay to see. The NWA needs to drop the midgets, the Dupp Cupp, The New Church of Crap, and Jerry Lynn's entrance music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I don't hate the new Church. I like Slash. I don't hate Malice either. And if Tempest ever comes back..that's cool. And I think the new guy can get over... A guy named Cobain who loves suicide? GOLD!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I've heard that Tempest is not returning, due to him constantly calling the NWA offices asking to be booked. Cobaine (does the E make it OK?) is the biggest insult to wrestling fans I have ever seen. a depressed looking grunge character names Cobaine is just a little too close of a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Well... since I hate Nirvana with a passion... and think Cobain was an overrated hack who killed music... I find it super. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 really. I think Cobaine is easily one of the cheesiest characters to come around in a long time, and that is saying a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dames Edna Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Kurt Cobain killed music? Why? Because he committed suicide? Because he wasn't a decent human being? Fuck that. I recall you saying you dig Avril Levigne's music. Well lemme tell you sumthin, if it wasn't for Cobain breaking the punk rock walls down in the mainstream - your punk princess wouldn't be stinking up the radio. Make no mistake about it, Kurt Cobain's name would have been on the same plain as John Lennons. Both revolutionized music in their eras, and shamefully spoonfed their generation something great. And what do I think about the name? I think its rubbish. Are people so strapped for a gimmick they have to dub themselves after a deceased person, and claim their love to be what they died of? The name Kobain would have been tolerable, but for his gimmick to be that he likes suicide? It shows the TNA are just as willing to play the WWE's game for unclassy moves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 And what do I think about the name? I think its rubbish. Are people so strapped for a gimmick they have to dub themselves after a deceased person, and claim their love to be what they died of? The name Kobain would have been tolerable, but for his gimmick to be that he likes suicide? It shows the TNA are just as willing to play the WWE's game for unclassy moves The Cobaine character is just a bad idea that never should have gotten off of the ground in the first place. Obviously every fan is going to know exactly what the NWA is pulling, so why even do it in the first place. Did they honestly believe that any controversy brought by this character will be good for them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Notorious CRD Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I definitely like the idea of them booking more toward the hardcore fans because that's probably their primary audience anyway. Keeping us happy will keep the money coming in. It's just that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Nothing says "cutting edge" quite like a character based on a guy who shot himself years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I definitely like the idea of them booking more toward the hardcore fans because that's probably their primary audience anyway. Keeping us happy will keep the money coming in. It's just that simple. I agree. It is really cool Jerry Jarrett realizes that the majority of fans buying his shows are internet wrestling fans and now that he is booking with what he thinks we want to see. That is truly listening to the fans and it is cool that they are not afraid to admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Cobain killed music not by killing himself...but convincing people that it was any good. Nirvana killed Rock and Roll...and the slope led us to the Limp Bizkit Rock/Rap B.S., which sucked as hard as alternative...so it lasted the same length of time... which led to the resurgence of pop music. I never said Avril was any good...I said it was better than the rest of the shitty shitty music that is on the airwaves. Thanks for that Kurt...Rot in hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dames Edna Report post Posted September 7, 2002 Kurt rot in hell? Are you justified to say that just because of your opinion of his music? Go fuck yourself pal, thats just down right rude. Your a mod, and you say ignorant shit like that? Wow, I sure you aren't an example of what this board entails. To say Cobain is responsible for rap rock is assinine. I think Yo MTV Raps had more to do with that than anything. There would be no mainstream punk rock without Cobain. He broke the rock roots down, and bypassed all of the stale pop acts in the way. Sure his musical content wasn't always positive, but his contributions are noteworthy. Without him there wouldn't have been mainstream stars like Green Day, Pearl Jam, Offspring, Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, ect. He gave all of these acts the opportunity to strike it big. It would be ignorant to say these bands wouldn't have made it big without Nirvana BUT their path was practically paved for them. They fact you do in fact shill Avril Levigne in any way, shape or form - and diss Cobain shows your complete bias towards certain people. Her phoney ass I don't give a shit attitude was personified by Cobain. Her anti establishment gimmick was him first. And his "edgy" music in a pop world was his first. She can try and act all punk as she wants - but she is nothing but a poseur. Her music is watered down pop, and she makes Britney Spears look like John Lennon. Her popularity is all thanks to Kurt Cobain - and the punk rock walls he broke down. I don't ask for anyone to respect him as a human being, but give him the credit he deserves as a rock star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 7, 2002 I guess your opinion beats mine then. Congratulations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dames Edna Report post Posted September 7, 2002 Ok, here is an opinion. NWA:TNA sucks. Would you let me get away with saying that? Or would you defend something you feel passionatly about? Its not me trying to shove something down your throat, but its me defending someone who I feel is being unjustifiably critisized. That with the fact you said he should rot in hell. Classy move all the way around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites