Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 ...sadly it's the clipped WWF Home Video version. Still it was only 6 bucks, and I'm sure I'll get a copy of Hart vs Undertaker somewhere down the line. One more tape goes into the collection though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Why did they clip that match anyway? Wasn't the tape released while Bret was still under contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 CONSPIRCACY~~~~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted September 7, 2002 Not that I own it, but I think I read somewhere that version released in the U.K. has the show in full. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ArkhamGlobe Report post Posted September 8, 2002 Not that I own it, but I think I read somewhere that version released in the U.K. has the show in full. It most certanily does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 8, 2002 I refuse to watch One Night Only due to what happens to my all time favourite wrestler. Â Fuck you HBK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Caliban Report post Posted September 8, 2002 About half the crowd couldn't see what the hell happened to Bulldog and so had no idea why he tapped. Hence the flying bottles at the end. I was there. With the "I HATE SIGNS" sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted September 8, 2002 I refuse to watch One Night Only due to what happens to my all time favourite wrestler. Fuck you HBK because.. what? HBK beat him? So? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Caliban Report post Posted September 8, 2002 I remember reading Bulldog was supposed to retain, since he was a big face in the UK. But Shawn somehow convinced Vince that Bulldog should drop the title to him. There was supposed to be a rematch at the next UK PPV, Mayhem in Manchester in April 1998. Of course that match (and the PPV) never materialised. Â HBK never did anything with the Euro title either, he gave it to HHH in a "fingerpoke of doom" type scenario on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 8, 2002 It's also the reason Bulldog went to WCW where his career basically died. Â So yea- Fuck HBK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kingkamala Report post Posted September 8, 2002 His career didn't die in WCW, remember the brief comeback in 99 where he won the Euro title again for like a month and had the Hardcore title for several daysm,He also main evented Unforgiven 99. BTW Bob, have you seen Rebellion 99? I was wondering cause the whole show is focused on Bulldog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 8, 2002 I haven't seen it available anywhere even though I do own World Tour 92. Â His career did die in WCW in terms that his workrate went down the shitter even though in 99 he did have some okay stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kingkamala Report post Posted September 8, 2002 Rebellion 99 is probably the best UK only PPV I've seen(Which isn't saying much) but it features a great Rock-HHH cage match(I'd say ***3/4 and it's in the the old school playground bars cage!), a decent D Lo Brown-Jeff Jarrett match and Bulldog squashing X-Pac in five minutes which is pretty funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Caliban Report post Posted September 8, 2002 Rebellion 99 is the only other UK ppv worth seeing. It's got a good Chris Jericho/Road Dogg match on it as well as the other stuff you listed - Jerichos first good match in the WWF in fact. Â And I blame the Ultimate Warrior for Bulldog's career decline. One word - trapdoor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Si82 Report post Posted September 9, 2002 Rebellion 99 is probably the best UK only PPV I've seen(Which isn't saying much) but it features a great Rock-HHH cage match(I'd say ***3/4 and it's in the the old school playground bars cage!), a decent D Lo Brown-Jeff Jarrett match and Bulldog squashing X-Pac in five minutes which is pretty funny. You forgot the best bit. Bulldog throwing a trach can at Stephanie McMahon. Woo-Hoo! I remember watching that PPV with my friend Jonathan. I remember that the Bulldog did an interview were he said he desevered the WWF Title shot 'cause they were in the UK and the people had come to see him so he was going to see Vince McMahon about. Then Jonathan says: "I bet he doesn't". Then after that next match WHAM! down goes Steph. Ha, ha, ha!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kingkamala Report post Posted September 9, 2002 Oh yeah that was pretty cool, Â Vince: Bulldog, NOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT NOOOOOOO Shane: Someone get an ambulance (Bulldog runs away) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted September 9, 2002 I refuse to watch One Night Only due to what happens to my all time favourite wrestler. Fuck you HBK because.. what? HBK beat him? So? Didn't Davey Boy get legitimately hurt in that match?  I remember the stage/ring being raised a few inches above the entire crowd area, with Davey getting hurt in the incline, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMTapes Report post Posted September 9, 2002 It's on the PPV version which was shown in Canada. I'm sure someone has it somewhere. -JM Â www.jmtapes.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Ruthless Aggressor Report post Posted September 9, 2002 I haven't seen it available anywhere even though I do own World Tour 92. His career did die in WCW in terms that his workrate went down the shitter even though in 99 he did have some okay stuff. His career had been down the shitter for years, he didn't draw anything outside of the UK, he was extremely boring in the ring, he had no charisma, and so on. He was one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted September 9, 2002 His career had been down the shitter for years, he didn't draw anything outside of the UK, he was extremely boring in the ring, he had no charisma, and so on. He was one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. I'd say that's a good description of Smith's career after '92. Back in the day it was obvious who carried the British Bulldogs. Dynamite's book has a funny story about them wanting to turn heel, so Davey had a great idea for it. Shave their heads bald and have bulldog tatoos on each side of their head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 9, 2002 His career had been down the shitter for years, he didn't draw anything outside of the UK, he was extremely boring in the ring, he had no charisma, and so on. He was one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. I don't know what you mean by for years but in 1997 he was involved in several MOTYC. Â Bulldog headlined the highest paid attended card in history according to Dave Meltzer so I think that constitutes being a draw. Â He was extrememly mobile for someone his size. Â If Dynamite Kid carried the team then how come Davey had the career and Dynamite didn't?? That's cause Dynamite was a fucking idiot who didn't know when to quit. Â I'm one of the only ones who kiss his ass on a regular basis because he is my all time favourite so I don't think he is "overrated". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted September 9, 2002 If Dynamite Kid carried the team then how come Davey had the career and Dynamite didn't?? That's cause Dynamite was a fucking idiot who didn't know when to quit. Davey had the "career" because he went back to McMahonland and Dynamite didn't want to. DK was happy working for All Japan, but Davey just wanted back in to the WWF. As for being a draw, I'd agree he was a very strong draw in the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The REAL Great One Report post Posted September 10, 2002 I've never really heard anyone rant and rave about how great the British Bulldog was in th ring, so I don't see ho he could be overrated. From what I understand, most people agree that Davey was good at times, but not great. I'd say that's an accurate description of Davey's in-ring work. The only people who REALLY like Davey's work, and think it's great are Davey's fans. I see no problem with that, and that doesn't make Davey overrated. In fact Davey always entertained me (maybe not always in the ring). I mean Davey was no wrestling god, but I usually found him fun to watch many times before his last run in the WWF. Â I agree with Bob Barron that Shawn beating Dave for the Euro belt was pointless and idiotic. From what I remeber, it ended up serving no real purpose, and HBGay's "loss" to HGH only served to demean the belt. Shawn's Euro title reign meant nothing; the politics just seems so obvious in this situation. Â Yeah I'm gonna join Barron here and say: Â Fuck HBK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted September 10, 2002 Pointless? Uhhh, whatever. The heel heat for it was fantastic. It's not like Bulldog holding the title had much of a point either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 10, 2002 Considering HBK treated it like a joke it was pointless. Â Have Davey job it to someone like Shamrock or some up and coming face who could've used the title to get over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The REAL Great One Report post Posted September 10, 2002 Considering HBK treated it like a joke it was pointless. Have Davey job it to someone like Shamrock or some up and coming face who could've used the title to get over Exactly. The way I saw it, HBK handing that belt to HHH made the belt look like a friggin joke. The Euro title could've served a good purpose, but HBK and HHH did nothing except make that belt look like a peice of crap. This wasn't the only incident, but it was the first. The fact that Davey never got a return job makes it worse.  I still believe HBK had no reason to beat Davey for the belt at One Night Only. It was pointless, and it's really crappy that the decision for Davey to job came about because of HBK taling to McMahon.  BTW, how did HBK beat Davey? Was it clean with the SCM? Interference and a sneak SCM? Fluke rollup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted September 11, 2002 BTW, how did HBK beat Davey? Was it clean with the SCM? Interference and a sneak SCM? Fluke rollup? It's been a while, but from what I remember it had lots of DX interference. HBK won with the figure four, then the trash came flying in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The REAL Great One Report post Posted September 11, 2002 BTW, how did HBK beat Davey? Was it clean with the SCM? Interference and a sneak SCM? Fluke rollup? It's been a while, but from what I remember it had lots of DX interference. HBK won with the figure four, then the trash came flying in the ring. Wow, Shawn has actually won a match with the figure four? That's a little weird, I don't even remember Jarrett ever winning with the figure four. The reason I asked was that I've heard in various radio interviews that it is the courteous and expected custom that if Wrstler A is fighting Wrestler B in B's hometown (or if the WWF doesn't go there much, home country like Canada or Britain) then A will usually win with a fluke rollup if A has been booked to win. I'm not sure if that custom appies now, or even if it applied in 1997. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DEEP THOUGHT Report post Posted September 11, 2002 Davey Boy was trapped in the figue four for several minutes. If I recall correctly, he never did submit, instead the referee stopped the match and awarded the decision (and European title) to Shawn Michaels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jayson_Hart Report post Posted September 11, 2002 Shawn HAD to win that match...Vince needed to get all the belts off of the members of the Hart family before he screwed Bret in Montreal, just in case they decided to walk out of their contracts after the Survivor Series...He couldn't have them showing up in WCW with his belts...It was a great way to get the belt off of Davey Boy and garner heat for Shawn who was a heel at the time...Owen lost his intercontinental title to Austin (who could barely wrestle at this point) at the Survivor Series, before the Bret screwjob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
