Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 12, 2002 If enough people on this board are willing to do this, I'll make a list of ever match *** and up that I can find, then I'll post a copy of the list and email it to those interested. Hey if VH1 can do these type of lists for every type of music, we should be able to do this for wrestling. It's the mother of all polls. Anyone willing to try it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Midnight Express83 Report post Posted September 12, 2002 I got 50....I could strech it to 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 12, 2002 Great if like 99 other people get into this I'll do it, I'll even email Keith, Meltzer a list if it gets big enough. Sure they'll probably not respond but nothing wrong in offering the opportunity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted September 12, 2002 It's an interesting idea, but you'd almost have to set up a point system for it. Like, have everybody vote for their matches from 1-100. 100 points for the match voted #1, 1 point for the match voted #100, and you can figure out the rest. I'd like to see exactly how the smark voting would go for something like that. The problem is how many people would actually take the time to level it out, plus most of the pre-1985 stuff is hard to come by. Then there's the matter of how to (or if) include Japanese and Mexican matches. Still, I'm game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 12, 2002 JHawk, that would work, I'd be willing to acccept the fact that pre 85 stuff would be tough to have been seen. If a lot of guys are willing to do it and send it to me though, I'd do it. The point system would be easy because you just do it in reverse, #1 is 100 points, #2 is 99 points, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Midnight Express83 Report post Posted September 12, 2002 These are just great matches in no order. 100: Benoit vs Dynamite Kid(stampede) 99: Midnight Express vs Road Warriors 98: Flair vs Bobby Eaton 97: Midnight Express vs Flair/Windham 96: Midnight Express vs Arn/Tully 95: Midnight Express vs Midnight Express 94: Hollywood blones vs Flair/Steamboat 93: Hollywood blondes vs Flair/Anderson 92: Hollywood blondes vs Steamboat/Douglas 91: Bret hart vs HBK at Survivor Series 92 90: Bret Hart vs Dynamite kid ladder match(only clipped version I saw but it was great) 89: Bret Hart vs Bad News Allen ladder match 88: HBK vs Bret hart ladder match from 92 87: Misawa vs Kawada 97 86: Rocky vs Mankind RAW title stwich 85: rocky vs mainkind I quit 84: Rocky vs Mainkind last man standing 83: HHH vs Rock ladder match 82: Rey Jr. vs Psicosis(GAB 96) 81: Rey Jr vs Ultimo Dragon(J-crown title match) 80: Rey jr vs Ultimo Dragon(M-Pro match) 79: Rey jr vs Malenko(Cruiser title match) 78: Rockers vs Demolition 77: Rockers vs Brainbusters 76: HBK vs Jannetty(rumble 93) 75: Taka vs Hayabusa 74: Catus Jack vs HHH 73: Catus Jack vs Sting 72: Benoit vs Guerrero(ECW) 71: Benoit vs Black Tiger 70: Benoit vs Susaki(J-cup 94) 69: Wargames 88 68: Wargames 89 67: Wargames 91 66: Flair vs Sting(1/11/91) 65: Flair vs Race(starrcade 83) 64: Flair vs Sting(GAB 90) 63: Flair vs Luger(Combat 90) 62: Dynamite Kid vs Bret(85 WWF TV) 61: Dynamite kid vs Owen 60: Dynamite kid vs Tiger Mask(MSG) 59: Bulldogs vs Malenko brothers 58: Dynamite Kid vs Bulldog(WWF Jr heavyweight title match) 57: Bulldogs vs Hart Foundation MSG 85 56: Savage vs Hogan(WM5) 55: Midnight Express vs Rock N Roll Express(Us title vs World title match) 54: Bret Hart vs Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring 93) 53: Hart Foundation vs Demolition(Summerslam 90) 52: Hart Foundation vs Rockers(SNME 90) 51: Misawa vs Kawada(6/3/94) 50: MIdnight Express vs Rock N Roll Express 49: Flair vs Steamboat(Stampede 94) 48: Sting vs Muta at GAB 89 47: Midnight Express vs Pillman/Z-Man 46: Susake vs Taka (RAW after Stampede) 45: Rocky vs Foley I quit match 44: Tully Blanchard vs Maganum TA ( I quit match) 43: HBK vs Bret Ironman match 42: Rude vs Steamboat Ironman match 41: Rocky vs Trips Ironman match 40: Booker vs Benoit(whole series hard to tell but i could get shot not adding a match from the series) 39: Tiger Mask vs Dynamite Kid Here on its just my real opinion. 38: Jericho vs Malenko 37: Ultimo Dragon vs Eddy Guerrero 36: FOley vs Trips at rumble 35: Hardyz vs Dudleys(Rumble Table's match) 34: TLC2 33: Triple Threat Ladder 32: TLC 31: Hart Foundation vs Demolition 30: Austin vs Foley(Over the Edge 98) 29: Steamboat/Douglas vs Hollywood Blondes 28: Flair vs Steamboat(AJPW 82) 27: Flair vs Steamboat(3/18/89) 26: Savage vs Warrior(Summerslam 92) 25: The 92 Royal Rumble 24: Vader vs Sting (Slamboree 93) 23: Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit(Owen match) 22: Vader vs Sting (Bash 92) 21: Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior(WM7) 20: Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith: Summerslam 92 19: Flair vs Steamboat at Chi town Rumble(I know, THIS HIGH) 18: Flair vs Vader at Starrcade 93 17: Flair vs Savage at WM8 16: Austin vs Bret: Survivor Series 96 15: Austin vs Bret: WM13 14: Chris Benoit vs Great Sasuke 13: Midnight Express vs Southern Boys: Bash 90 12: Flair vs Funk: I quit match 10: Bret vs Owen at Summerslam 94 9: Razor vs HBK: WM10 ladder match 8: Midnights vs Fantstics: Clash 1 7: HBK vs Marty Jannetty 5/17/93 6: Wargames 92: WrestleWar 92 5: Wargames 87: 07/04/1987 4: Bret Hart vs Owen Hart: WM10 3: Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat: WM3 2: Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat: 2/3 clash of Champions 1: Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat: Wrestlewar 89 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted September 12, 2002 I made a top 50 ECW match list a while back...I don't have the energy to commit to something else like this now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kebab Report post Posted September 12, 2002 100: Benoit vs Dynamite Kid(stampede) And you have this on tape ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted September 12, 2002 not a good idea, i think. if it was primarily posters on this board who voted, puro would get the short end of the stick & we'd end up with something VERY unrepresentative of what the "greatest matches of all time" might be. the original hell in a cell would get something like 20, and misawa-kobashi/kawada-taue would get something like 65, and i can't think of anyone who's seen the latter & thinks that there are 65 better matches out there at all, nevermind hell in a cell. if we all had a more well-rounded wrestling education it would work better, but as it stands it would have a HEAVY wwf bias that would have no place being there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gwf0704 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 These are just great matches in no order. 100: Benoit vs Dynamite Kid(stampede) 99: Midnight Express vs Road Warriors 98: Flair vs Bobby Eaton 97: Midnight Express vs Flair/Windham 96: Midnight Express vs Arn/Tully 95: Midnight Express vs Midnight Express 94: Hollywood blones vs Flair/Steamboat 93: Hollywood blondes vs Flair/Anderson 92: Hollywood blondes vs Steamboat/Douglas 91: Bret hart vs HBK at Survivor Series 92 90: Bret Hart vs Dynamite kid ladder match(only clipped version I saw but it was great) 89: Bret Hart vs Bad News Allen ladder match 88: HBK vs Bret hart ladder match from 92 87: Misawa vs Kawada 97 86: Rocky vs Mankind RAW title stwich 85: rocky vs mainkind I quit 84: Rocky vs Mainkind last man standing 83: HHH vs Rock ladder match 82: Rey Jr. vs Psicosis(GAB 96) 81: Rey Jr vs Ultimo Dragon(J-crown title match) 80: Rey jr vs Ultimo Dragon(M-Pro match) 79: Rey jr vs Malenko(Cruiser title match) 78: Rockers vs Demolition 77: Rockers vs Brainbusters 76: HBK vs Jannetty(rumble 93) 75: Taka vs Hayabusa 74: Catus Jack vs HHH 73: Catus Jack vs Sting 72: Benoit vs Guerrero(ECW) 71: Benoit vs Black Tiger 70: Benoit vs Susaki(J-cup 94) 69: Wargames 88 68: Wargames 89 67: Wargames 91 66: Flair vs Sting(1/11/91) 65: Flair vs Race(starrcade 83) 64: Flair vs Sting(GAB 90) 63: Flair vs Luger(Combat 90) 62: Dynamite Kid vs Bret(85 WWF TV) 61: Dynamite kid vs Owen 60: Dynamite kid vs Tiger Mask(MSG) 59: Bulldogs vs Malenko brothers 58: Dynamite Kid vs Bulldog(WWF Jr heavyweight title match) 57: Bulldogs vs Hart Foundation MSG 85 56: Savage vs Hogan(WM5) 55: Midnight Express vs Rock N Roll Express(Us title vs World title match) 54: Bret Hart vs Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring 93) 53: Hart Foundation vs Demolition(Summerslam 90) 52: Hart Foundation vs Rockers(SNME 90) 51: Misawa vs Kawada(6/3/94) 50: MIdnight Express vs Rock N Roll Express 49: Flair vs Steamboat(Stampede 94) 48: Sting vs Muta at GAB 89 47: Midnight Express vs Pillman/Z-Man 46: Susake vs Taka (RAW after Stampede) 45: Rocky vs Foley I quit match 44: Tully Blanchard vs Maganum TA ( I quit match) 43: HBK vs Bret Ironman match 42: Rude vs Steamboat Ironman match 41: Rocky vs Trips Ironman match 40: Booker vs Benoit(whole series hard to tell but i could get shot not adding a match from the series) 39: Tiger Mask vs Dynamite Kid Here on its just my real opinion. 38: Jericho vs Malenko 37: Ultimo Dragon vs Eddy Guerrero 36: FOley vs Trips at rumble 35: Hardyz vs Dudleys(Rumble Table's match) 34: TLC2 33: Triple Threat Ladder 32: TLC 31: Hart Foundation vs Demolition 30: Austin vs Foley(Over the Edge 98) 29: Steamboat/Douglas vs Hollywood Blondes 28: Flair vs Steamboat(AJPW 82) 27: Flair vs Steamboat(3/18/89) 26: Savage vs Warrior(Summerslam 92) 25: The 92 Royal Rumble 24: Vader vs Sting (Slamboree 93) 23: Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit(Owen match) 22: Vader vs Sting (Bash 92) 21: Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior(WM7) 20: Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith: Summerslam 92 19: Flair vs Steamboat at Chi town Rumble(I know, THIS HIGH) 18: Flair vs Vader at Starrcade 93 17: Flair vs Savage at WM8 16: Austin vs Bret: Survivor Series 96 15: Austin vs Bret: WM13 14: Chris Benoit vs Great Sasuke 13: Midnight Express vs Southern Boys: Bash 90 12: Flair vs Funk: I quit match 10: Bret vs Owen at Summerslam 94 9: Razor vs HBK: WM10 ladder match 8: Midnights vs Fantstics: Clash 1 7: HBK vs Marty Jannetty 5/17/93 6: Wargames 92: WrestleWar 92 5: Wargames 87: 07/04/1987 4: Bret Hart vs Owen Hart: WM10 3: Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat: WM3 2: Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat: 2/3 clash of Champions 1: Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat: Wrestlewar 89 The idea is good but it wont work as this list, while good, is mostly WWF/E and NWA/WCW and some japan matches but totally excludes the AWA (Rick Martel v Nick Bockwinkel) World Class Championship Wrestling (Flair v Kerry Von Erich, Von Erichs v Freebirds, Chris Adams v Kevin Von Erich) Southwest Championship Wrestling (Tully Blanchard v Gino Hernandez) Mid South (Magnum TA v Butch Reed, Mr Wrestling II v Butch Reed, Midnight Express v Rock N Roll Express) USWA (Lawler v Bill Dundee) Georgia (Tommy Rich v Buzz Sawyer, Jake Roberts v Ronnie Garvin, Road Warriors v Nikita and Ivan Koloff) and Florida (Windham v Sullivan, Rhodes v Sullivan). I dont even see old time WWF matches such as Sammartino v Zbyszko and Hogan v Piper or Muraco v Backlund. Nice idea but this board is too much Rah Rah WWE and everything else sucks to actually work. Just my opinion..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 13, 2002 So, this is just a poll for this board, and what their opinions are. There's enough puroheads to even things out somewhat. Besides, if it gets sent to other boards and sites, there's going to be all kinds of different responses. Someone should make a list of people who're willing to do this. 1,2,3. Not it. Whoever decides to take on that challenge, if at all, add me to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted September 13, 2002 does everyone polled have to make a list of 100 matches? wouldn't it be less cumbersome to make them list 10 or 20? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites