CE, 9/11 Thread / Flames

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

You overlook the basic fact that most denominations of Christianity don't like each other very much. You can't just lump Protestants and Catholics and Lutherans and Anglicans together, but the only real split in Islam is between the Sunnis and the Shias. Like you said, anywhere where there are two different kinds of Christians, they fight. There really aren't that many different kinds of Moslems.

 

The "Palestinian cause" is neither just nor a cause. The Palestinians have been brainwashed and used as expendable tools by cynical Arab regimes for decades in order to destroy Israel.

 

Research? Try getting an education and doing some work in the field instead of typing a couple of words into a Google text box, slugger.

First of all the Palstinians have no voting rights, cannot own a business, and are treated with disgust by the Jewish population of Isreal. Marney, when you take everything a man has away, he will start fighting back. It's a fact of life.

 

There are conflicts between Christain groups, because the people have been brainwashed by their corrupt "spiritual leaders" . That's different from Islamic terrorist.. how?

 

I won't debate the Palestinian stae with you. It's too long-winded and we both would only end up look like a couple of psuedo-intellectual pundits. (Too late ) But, I will say this, I've been to Isreal. I've seen how the Palestinians have been treated.

 

I say, bombs away.

[Guest treble charged]

Ok, I just read it wrong, that's all.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

the Palstinians... are treated with disgust by the Jewish population of Isreal.

Kind of understandable when they deliberately target and kill 70 year-old grandmothers along with their 4 year-old granddaughters.

 

Marney, when you take everything a man has away, he will start fighting back. It's a fact of life.

Really? Then why aren't they demanding land from Jordan, where the majority of the population is Palestinian but the rulers Hashemites? Maybe because the Hashemites have killed tens of thousands of them in the past and will again in an instant?

The Palestinians are fighting Israel because their paymasters tell them to and give them the means to do so. They have no grievance and no right to the land.

 

There are conflicts between Christain groups, because the people have been brainwashed by their corrupt "spiritual leaders" . That's different from Islamic terrorist.. how?

Martin Luther was corrupt? Christian groups split off from the various churches usually for reasons of principle or political expediency. Christians in the civilised world today don't kill each other because of doctrinal conflicts, nor do they kill Moslems for being Moslems (Bosnia aside). The United States is largely Christian, yet we don't fund terrorist organisations dedicated to eradicating the "heathens." On the contrary, we expend our own resources to save Moslem lives and we guarantee Moslems religious freedom in our country. Try finding that sort of tolerance in Saudi Arabia - where $100 million was raised within 2 weeks for the families of suicide bombers - or in Iraq, which has a standing reward of $25,000 for the family of every suicide bomber.

Now tell me again that Christians and Moslems encourage terrorism equally.

 

But, I will say this, I've been to Isreal. I've seen how the Palestinians have been treated. I say, bombs away.

I'll admit I've never been to Israel. But I'll say in turn that if you think any imaginable extremity could ever justify the deliberate murder of innocents, we have nothing to talk about.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

the Palstinians... are treated with disgust by the Jewish population of Isreal.

Kind of understandable when they deliberately target and kill 70 year-old grandmothers along with their 4 year-old granddaughters.

 

Marney, when you take everything a man has away, he will start fighting back. It's a fact of life.

Really? Then why aren't they demanding land from Jordan, where the majority of the population is Palestinian but the rulers Hashemites? Maybe because the Hashemites have killed tens of thousands of them in the past and will again in an instant?

The Palestinians are fighting Israel because their paymasters tell them to and give them the means to do so. They have no grievance and no right to the land.

 

There are conflicts between Christain groups, because the people have been brainwashed by their corrupt "spiritual leaders" . That's different from Islamic terrorist.. how?

Martin Luther was corrupt? Christian groups split off from the various churches usually for reasons of principle or political expediency. Christians in the civilised world today don't kill each other because of doctrinal conflicts, nor do they kill Moslems for being Moslems (Bosnia aside). The United States is largely Christian, yet we don't fund terrorist organisations dedicated to eradicating the "heathens." On the contrary, we expend our own resources to save Moslem lives and we guarantee Moslems religious freedom in our country. Try finding that sort of tolerance in Saudi Arabia - where $100 million was raised within 2 weeks for the families of suicide bombers - or in Iraq, which has a standing reward of $25,000 for the family of every suicide bomber.

Now tell me again that Christians and Moslems encourage terrorism equally.

 

But, I will say this, I've been to Isreal. I've seen how the Palestinians have been treated. I say, bombs away.

I'll admit I've never been to Israel. But I'll say in turn that if you think any imaginable extremity could ever justify the deliberate murder of innocents, we have nothing to talk about.

They've been treated like that since Day 1. Ever since Isreal won it's independance it's treated them like shit. The actual terrorist tactics didn't begin until the 70's.

 

That's one strike.

 

They arn't asking for Jordanian land because, the Jordanians have been some of thier staunchest supporters. That would be like America asking England for land it owes them from the Revolution during WW II.

 

Strike Two.

 

This seems like a misunderstanding. I meant CONTEMPERARY leaders influencing the congregation for their own alterior motives. I never brang up those who began the faiths in the first place. Also Luther was a HORRIBLE example since he didn't actually break away from Catholocism, the German princes supporting him did.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

"Staunchest supporters?" Staunch support includes butchering them by the thousands? I think we've found the problem then. Israel just hasn't killed enough Palestinians yet to win your approval.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

"Staunchest supporters?" Staunch support includes butchering them by the thousands? I think we've found the problem then. Israel just hasn't killed enough Palestinians yet to win your approval.

Wasn't Jordan fighting for Palestine against Isreal in the Six Day War?

 

Yes, yes they were.

 

Oh, and I'm glad we didn't hear self-rightous, conservative, crap on the other points; makes this thread that much better for my post count.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Wasn't Jordan fighting for Palestine against Isreal in the Six Day War?

 

Yes, yes they were.

Nope. They were simply fighting against Israel.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Christians in the civilised world today don't kill each other because of doctrinal conflicts

Well, just to be pedantic, they do in Northern Ireland.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

True enough. I'm not sure why I even got into that; it wasn't relevant to the issue.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I only brought it up because I don't know much about Israel and wanted to make a post due to boredom.

 

Damn insomnia

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Wasn't Jordan fighting for Palestine against Isreal in the Six Day War?

 

Yes, yes they were.

Nope. They were simply fighting against Israel.

A valid point. but remember: In this type of conflict, the enemey of my enemey is my friend.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

True enough. I'm not sure why I even got into that; it wasn't relevant to the issue.

It WAS relevent to the whole "Muslims kill, Christains don't" argument. I brang it up in my first or second post.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Ah, right. We got sidetracked. The point I wanted to make was that the most serious threat facing us at this moment is Moslem terrorism, and focusing on a few anti-federal lunatics in a bunker in Arkansas instead is silly.

[Guest HVilleThugg]

Marney...go stick a large pole in your pussy you fat bitch!

 

Yeah, that's right...I too can stoop down to pathetic, childish, immature name calling. I'm realized that you have this holier than thou attitude as you believe that no one else knows anything and that their opinions are worthless. Well, to that I say...if it helps you sleep better at night thinking that you are above everyone else...then fine. I'm not short on self-esteem, so I certainly don't need your respect. It seems more like you are in need of a good dick to take your edge off...and then maybe you'll learn how to chill and be more respectful to others. So, your homework for the rest of the weekend is to find a man that's willing to put up with your shit long enough to get you into bed so he can fuck your brains out. Cause you sure need it.

 

Gee, it's far more fun to just throw out insults instead of making valid points. I should try to do it more often.

 

Now, please, if you could kindly go eat a dick you whore.

[Guest HoffmanHBK]

*whispering* I don't think she's into dudes, dude...

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Hmm...

 

Marney, you claim to be very conservative, am I right?

 

Forgive me, I'm but a feeble little college student. However, can you truly not blame yourselves... specifically, Bush Part I, in that he gave these 'Moslem extremists' the bait which they now use to attack us?

 

EDIT: Punctuation at 2:30 AM isn't quite what it used to be... and I fear that Marney may use it against me in a pseudo-attack at my age... or intellegence... or masculinity... or... eh, whatever.

[Guest J*ingus]

specifically, Bush Part I, in that he gave these 'Moslem extremists' the bait which they now use to attack us?

Mind clarifying what you meant there about "bait"?

[Guest bob_barron]

Marney...go stick a large pole in your pussy you fat bitch!

 

Yeah, that's right...I too can stoop down to pathetic, childish, immature name calling. I'm realized that you have this holier than thou attitude as you believe that no one else knows anything and that their opinions are worthless. Well, to that I say...if it helps you sleep better at night thinking that you are above everyone else...then fine. I'm not short on self-esteem, so I certainly don't need your respect. It seems more like you are in need of a good dick to take your edge off...and then maybe you'll learn how to chill and be more respectful to others. So, your homework for the rest of the weekend is to find a man that's willing to put up with your shit long enough to get you into bed so he can fuck your brains out. Cause you sure need it.

 

Gee, it's far more fun to just throw out insults instead of making valid points. I should try to do it more often.

 

Now, please, if you could kindly go eat a dick you whore.

Your self esteem is so high that you like wanted us to go to DC and talk to you face to face or something.

 

Way to rock the self esteem!

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

specifically, Bush Part I, in that he gave these 'Moslem extremists' the bait which they now use to attack us?

Mind clarifying what you meant there about "bait"?

Specifically, Osama Bin Laden uses the US's involvement in the Persian Gulf War as his justification for his Jihad.

 

Bush Version 1.0 was the chairman of that conflict, wasn't he?

[Guest HVilleThugg]

Hey, I fight fire with fire...and in this case, I fight immature crap with immature crap. All both of you did was call names and throw insults...so I called you on it. ALso, I didn't know she was a chick...which probably means I can't knock her out...but whatever...

 

Hey, I"m all for civilized logical conversations...however, if all you two are going to so is throw insults and call names, I see no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to tell you two to bring your big shit here and let's see how big you really are.

[Guest HoffmanHBK]

What "two?" Marney and...

[Guest bob_barron]

coughs

[Guest Dames Edna]

Barron, you are a complete numbskull. That is all.

[Guest bob_barron]

I call you a cock and you start to cry??

 

Sadly I live in Canada so I'm a wee bit far from DC. But hey- maybe we can stop by.

 

You'll be like: Blah blah blah

I'll be like: Cock

You'll be like: Blah Blah Blah

 

And then I'll have to go back to Toronto. But it sounds like a fun way to spend a holiday

[Guest treble charged]

Who's 'coughs'? I've never heard of him.

[Guest bob_barron]

Barron, you are a complete numbskull. That is all.

Hey- I'm a fellow Eddy!~ fan as well.

 

I'm posting today with a concussion so I'm a bit more incoherent then usual.

 

But Regal is still God

[Guest Dames Edna]

Barron, that was the most unfunny thing I've ever read. Sorry. Maybe the concussion has sumthin to do about it

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

I call you a cock and you start to cry??

 

Sadly I live in Canada so I'm a wee bit far from DC. But hey- maybe we can stop by.

 

You'll be like: Blah blah blah

I'll be like: Cock

You'll be like: Blah Blah Blah

 

And then I'll have to go back to Toronto. But it sounds like a fun way to spend a holiday

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Yes, folks, that was my mark-out moment of the century!

 

Bob Baron?

 

Worst. Reply. Ever.

[Guest bob_barron]

My mark out moment of the century was when Regal won the I-C title but yours is a post of mine.

 

That's cool.

 

Damn- I need sleep

[Guest bob_barron]

Oh and Barron has two 'r's'. Not Baron. Barron.

 

Sorry- stuff like that just bothers me.