Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 ripped from WC.com "What if Vince decided to pull one of his infamous screwjobs at the Smackdown taping... ...and he hired a legitimate minister/Justice of the Peace...and as Billy and Chuck recited their scripted "lines," in reality, they were actually forming an official union. I'm not sure if MN recognizes same-sex unions, but, gosh, what a rib that would've been on those two!!" Heck.. just give Bisch a minister license from the ULC. that would be an EVIL prank. Eh? Hahaha.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 But they didn't finish the ceremony so it wouldn't be official Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted September 13, 2002 There wouldn't be any official marital documents signed by them. Since they didn't signed any, it would be kind of hard to uphold, wouldn't it? I don't know since I'm not married myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Gay Marriages are far as i can recall still arent legal, but its wrestling, reality and logic dont have to aply. DO IT VINCE DO IT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jester Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Assuming that gay marriages are legal in Minnesota (which I doubt they are), they would still have to consummate the marriage to make it legal-- You know what? I don't want to think about this anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 "I know that you can only have one question on your mind...DAD. And that is...not DID we, but HOW MANY TIMES times did we consummate the marriage?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Respect The 'Taker Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I bet Patt Patterson had something to do with using a gay marriage angle to 'boost ratings'... Im still Using Your Illusion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dt5 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 The ceremony is largely, um, ceremonial. Even if same-sex weddings were legal in whatever state they were in, they'd need to get and sign marriage liscenses beforehand (probably 24 hours at least, unless you're in Nevada), then they would need the justice of the piece to sign the papers while they (and witnesses) are present. In short, it's reaaaal tough to trick someone into getting married. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted September 13, 2002 If that happened would we get the "Billy and Chuck screwed Billy and Chuck" promo from Vince? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Actually, since this is the WWE, that would happen. Whether same sex marriages are legal in Minnesota or not won't matter to Vince and company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted September 13, 2002 plus Vince probably thinks he has the power to get these things legalised anyway He has the support of the kidz don't you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Vince "I had two men act like they were having a gay marriage ..........for the kidz" Man that would be a great gimmick for vince. Vince "I had two lesbians kiss on air and then beat them up, I did it......for the kidz" "I had HHH screw over anyone who could be competition for him.....for the kidz" He just just blame all his mistakes on wanting to do it for the kidz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Vince "I had two men act like they were having a gay marriage ..........for the kidz" Man that would be a great gimmick for vince. Vince "I had two lesbians kiss on air and then beat them up, I did it......for the kidz" "I had HHH screw over anyone who could be competition for him.....for the kidz" He just just blame all his mistakes on wanting to do it for the kidz. and then when the PTC complains bring back the RTC. See this booking lark is easy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steve J. Rogers Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Don't forget though Trips and Steph's characters were married by the sole basis of Trips faking Steph's voice, granted they could have made it official after Armaggedon (or even before it as the case might have been) by going to a Greenwich court house or something, but the fact is we never saw it, nor did we hear that it happened. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted September 13, 2002 IANAL, but federally, homosexual marriages are not recognized. For tax purposes or for social purposes. States can individually vote on whether or not to permit homosexual marriages, but unfortunately, none have any laws on the books in favor. In fact, there is only one state where homosexual marriages are even close to being accepted, and that is Hawaii, although there's a fairly high-profile court case going on right now. Vermont permits "civil unions" which have no gender restrictions, for tax purposes, and for limited social purposes, but they're not technically marriages. I work in the income tax preparation software industry, and I can tell you that civil unions pay exactly as much state income tax as do married couples. Vermont, unfortunately, is about as liberal as they get in this, and they don't allow traditional rights granted to heterosexual couples: The right to choose your marriage partner. The right to choose a marriage partner not a citizen of your country, and have it almost automatic they be allowed to live in your country with you. The right to visit your partner in hospital, even if the partner's blood family does not like you. Income tax deductions for couples. Pension benefits and other spousal benefits such as company medical and dental plans. Wherever the term "spouse" appears in law, it also apply to gay couples who have formed a legally recognised union. The right to custody of children by a previous heterosexual marriage. The right to adopt children. The right to claim their partner or their partner's children as dependents on income-tax forms. The right to transfer registered retirement savings plans to surviving homosexual partners without paying taxes the way straight couples can. Same-sex couples should not be forced to testify against each other, just as heterosexual couples are protected. (mindprod.com) The states that specifically ban gay marriages are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Virginia. The states that have had bills introduced to ban gay marriages but have had these bills defeated are: Alabama, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. None of these states, however, specifically ALLOW gay marriages. (ACLU.org) In effect, a gay marriage in this country is totally symbolic, unless it's actually a civil union in Vermont, and then it only applies for tax purposes. Countries permitting gay marriage include Belgium, Denmark (they were first, btw), Iceland*, Finland*, Netherlands*, Norway*, and Sweden*. *Designates gay marriages are permitted, but adoption is still disallowed, as adoption rules are very strict in most European countries. All that said... ...bps, what are you doing Saturday night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RicFlairGlory Report post Posted September 13, 2002 You cant trick anyone into getting married for the same reason you cant FORCE two people to get married. Consent. It'd take all of 2 minutes to get it all off the books period forever. You cant hold a gun to someones head and make them say I Do and have it hold up in court, and the same applies for trickery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted September 14, 2002 What if.., Vince decided to screw Billy and Chuck? He'd probably have to use lubricant. Didn't Tom Zenk once accuse him of doing this? Anyway, I thought screwing the wrestlers was Pat Patterson's job. HIYO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 14, 2002 So what about Ohio? It wasn't on that list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted September 14, 2002 So what about Ohio? It wasn't on that list... If it wasn't on either list, then no legislation has been introduced. If you really want to know, go try to have a gay wedding in that state, and prepare for the local right-wing groups to challenge the validity of the marriage in court. Most of those cases happened in 1996-7, which leads me to believe that either: A) some right-wing group started lobbying for heterosexual legal definitions of marriage or B) some gay-rights group started encouraging gay couples to wed, and some right-wing group or groups started challenging the weddings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Vince "I had two men act like they were having a gay marriage ..........for the kidz" Man that would be a great gimmick for vince. Vince "I had two lesbians kiss on air and then beat them up, I did it......for the kidz" "I had HHH screw over anyone who could be competition for him.....for the kidz" He just just blame all his mistakes on wanting to do it for the kidz. It worked for John Reno.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted September 14, 2002 How Vince can do damage control on this angle: Have a different, totally unexpected wrestler come out. A face. Edge if you can spare him, or even Crash, or someone without a defining characteristic. Turn them into Loss4Words. "Hey, I'm kind of sick of people using my sexual orientation as a publicity stunt. So just bring it, Rico, you pseudo-homo." Or something along those lines. Make them openly gay, but don't have them flaunt it. Don't give them a feather boa, make them compete in evening gown matches, just let them come out and then move on. Let heels rip on them, but only if you want the heels to job. The audience would hate it at first, but then start to respect the fact that they aren't flaunting their sexual orientation, and grow to respect them. At the same time, it'd change the way most of the marks view homosexuality. "If all them gay people were like him, maybe I wouldn't mind it so much." But, that'd require more planning than Vince believes necessary, and so it won't happen. ::grumble:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
