Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Wow, and all this time I didn't want to speak up because I thought I was the only one who didn't feel anything for 9/11. I think its terrible that I have such feelings (or more accurately, lack thereof) but I also won't deny they're there. Why do I feel this way? The usual reasons... a) I live on the West Coast and, excepting some of the people on this board (whom I didn't want to offend by expressing my apathetic opinions earlier), don't have any ties to New York whatsoever. Of course it's sad that it happened, no innocent souls should ever have to die, but I decided to be uncharacteristically selfish and think "but it doesn't directly affect me at all, it's no skin off my back" b ) Oversaturation. I was sick of 9/11/2001, by 9/14/2001. As sad as it is to say, tragedies occur all the time, and you can only see shaky footage of a plane striking a building so many times before it becomes boring. Yes, I'm aware 3000 innocent people died, blah blah blah, but innocent people die all the time, and its selfish of the U.S. media to barely mention any international incidents (admittedly, they usually don't have as high a body count, but since its still innocent people dying that shouldn't be an issue) and yet show that same fucking plane in the same fucking building (forgive my coarse language). Yea, I get it, guys. That image was like a virus, at first it was shocking, but if you keep exposing me to it I'm going to build up immunity and shrug it off. And I did. c) Patriotism + Bin Laden Hatred for sale! It's a two for one deal! I worked in retail at this time (one of those rare occasions when I actually had a job), and the amount of "patriotic merchandise" and cash-in stuff that came in was just insane! I realize that people are afraid for their security, but come on, flying a flag NOW isn't going to make that much difference. It wasn't the flags that bothered me though, since that's a simple, respectful way to show support; it was all the other crap... tacky shirts, sappy songs, misappropriated charities (note: I realize this was the exception, but it still happened), and the fact that anything would be swooped up because some idiot slapped a "God Bless America" or a flag onto it. Also around this time I used to go to the Flash animation/game website Newgrounds.com a lot. It immediately became SWAMPED with anti-Bin Laden/Al Qaeda/etc. animations and games. Again, I understand people needing some outlet of expression, which in this case was anger, but come on! The man was a figurehead and trained by us. Also, I wouldn't mind one or two, but literally every other submission was "kill ben [sic] laden" or "torture osama!", and again, since most of them were terrible submissions (in both senses), oversaturation struck again. Besides, I don't care what someone did to your country (I can almost allow it if someone you know or you yourself were affected), what the hell kind of sicko are you to actually want to cause bodily harm or torture to another human being? d) The War on Civil Rights (oh, I'm sorry, I mean Terror). When I talk about exploiting the incident, the worst offender was our own damn government. Immediately after, many Arabs and immigrants were suspected of connections to the incident. These people were harassed, detained without any reason or bail, disallowed the right to a lawyer, were spied upon even when released... really, it's just disgusting. And who's to say that I won't be next? I don't mean me personally, but I don't believe in many of the same issues at the government. Since civil rights can be carelessly thrown away during a state of war, if this "war" (what, "accidentally" bombing a few villages? causing and winning another country's revolution?) continues (which it will with this Iraq B.S.), who's to say those civil rights won't be removed for EVERYBODY? Anyway, I'm sorry for my rant, and I'm very sorry for those who live in the New York area who had to experience this, but those are my feelings, and to not express them and more importantly, state WHY I feel that way would be an insult to those who died. Rest in Peace, but don't die in vain... let freedom (not war) ring, so we can get on with our lives! A quick impression of Marney. And Verne... I was simply expressing how I feel about the issue. Why do I "deserve" a patented Marney flame? I wish people would stop presuming to speak for me. I don't flame everyone, and I'm as disgusted by the grubby hawkers selling Ground Zero crosses and home videos as anyone. And if you're "bored" by the hideous deaths of 3000 people, approximately 200 in group suicides, just because you didn't know them, I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you it's significant. Go right ahead and be bored. It's your right to be a callous piece of shit. And if you simply buy the media line about some vague "civil rights" going down the toilet every time a directly elected bicameral legislature passes a bill proposed by the executive branch, despite the fact that our judiciary remains independent, I won't waste my time trying to educate you. Go right ahead and hyperventilate and shriek about the evil government. It's your right to be an ignorant moron subsisting on the regurgitated balls of premasticated factoids you're fed. But I also have the right to ignore you. I wouldn't even have responded to this if other people hadn't decided to do it for me. Really, guys, you might want to try expressing your own opinions sometime instead of warning others about what you think mine would be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorin Industries 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I think youv'e just become a towering presence over this board, where everybody wants to hear your next proclamation. Buts thats cool, thats why I keep reading these boards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I'm going to start work on a broadway hit..Marney!: The Musical. I'll post some lyrics and dialogue when I get it written. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I was wondering why some people were so desperate to hear what Marney thought. After the Eric S. piece was put up, Vern and Bob were both eager to hear what Marney thought, but did little in the way of expressing their own opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest crandamaniac Report post Posted September 13, 2002 No offense to Marney or anything, but It seems like she's becoming a female Anglesault, In that when somebody posts something that they know she's not going to like, they always say "Well What's Marney going to say?". Seems kind of stupid to me, to make a thread for the sole purpose of making one person get mad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Since I have no idea who Anglesault is, I can't really take offense. <shrugs> But, for the record, the original thread had nothing to do with me, and I wish it had stayed that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 13, 2002 No offense to Marney or anything, but It seems like she's becoming a female Anglesault, In that when somebody posts something that they know she's not going to like, they always say "Well What's Marney going to say?". Seems kind of stupid to me, to make a thread for the sole purpose of making one person get mad I get what you're saying, but the similarities begin and end there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorin Industries 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Yeah, plus no one makes a thread for the sole purpose of getting Marny mad, its just that somebody usually says something stupid and thats when the fun begins. Anyone who posts in CE has gone through it at least once (and yes, im speaking from experience) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 13, 2002 There is a lot of intentional AS-baiting going on in the WWE folder (this is where Anglesault primarily hangs out, Marney, hence why you may be unfamiliar with him). I'm sick of seeing "Anglesault's not gonna like this/is gonna be pissed/etc/" in the topic or subject lines. Just say whatever it is you want to say and don't concern yourself with AS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Ah, I see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus The Aardvark Report post Posted September 13, 2002 After the Eric S. piece was put up, Vern and Bob were both eager to hear what Marney thought, but did little in the way of expressing their own opinions. Well, it is Eric S., so maybe they realized that nothing he says is worth discussing. //optimism They're just drones, I guess; kinda like Judas used to be where SK was concerned, just not as stalker-esque. Yet. Since I have no idea who Anglesault is, I can't really take offense. You should take offense anyway. Just saying. I'm sick of seeing "Anglesault's not gonna like this/is gonna be pissed/etc/" in the topic or subject lines. Just say whatever it is you want to say and don't concern yourself with AS. But Inc, Angleslut is an ESTABLISHED POSTER~! Therefore, we must concern ourselves with his thoughts on everything, especially wrestling. Haven't you learned to respect your ESTABLISHED POSTERS~! yet? Silly Incandenza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I'm sick of seeing "Anglesault's not gonna like this/is gonna be pissed/etc/" in the topic or subject lines. Just say whatever it is you want to say and don't concern yourself with AS. But Inc, Angleslut is an ESTABLISHED POSTER~! Therefore, we must concern ourselves with his thoughts on everything, especially wrestling. Haven't you learned to respect your ESTABLISHED POSTERS~! yet? Silly Incandenza. ::slaps hand against forehead:: Gah, I wasn't thinking there. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I must say I've come to be rather annoyed by the ingratiating sycophants who have lately begun to follow Marney around and stroke her ego at every opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 13, 2002 You're annoyed? Christ. How do you think I feel? It's annoying and embarrassing for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted September 13, 2002 I made it clear that Eric S. isn't worth arguing over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 13, 2002 Yep. That was on the first page, and I agree completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HoffmanHBK Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Hey, I'm an established poster; someone go make me coffee. Hey, where is Eric S. writing these days? I'm curious as to who's that desparate for writers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted September 14, 2002 He's at 411wrestling.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 14, 2002 I must say I've come to be rather annoyed by the ingratiating sycophants who have lately begun to follow Marney around and stroke her ego at every opportunity. I dunno. At first, I didn't like seeing Bob and Vern acting like "Ooooh, wait until Marney gets here!" But, given some time to think about it, I wouldn't mind having my own personal lapdogs. I'd love to have people spread the word about me wherever they go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Hey, I'm an established poster; someone go make me coffee. Hey, where is Eric S. writing these days? I'm curious as to who's that desparate for writers. I'm more established. you go get ME coffee...or better yet a beer...canadian of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Flying Dutchman Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Hoff's more established at WDI than you are Mr. "I'm going to invade and get myself banned for flaming in Flaming which isn't even an offense unto itself". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Bah. Don't be so cruel Flying Douche Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Eric S.'s political opinions are fun to read if you don't take them too seriously. He's no worse than some of these conservative nazi columnists like Coulter and O'Reilly. His wrestling opinions are shit for the most part though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 14, 2002 How is O'Reilly a conservative nazi?? He's an independent who regularly criticises Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HoffmanHBK Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Hoff owns. Eric S. is a bitter little man. If his opinions agreed with mine 100%, I'd feel the exact same way. I'll say this: Eric is fun to read in the "car wreck" sort of way. Dutch, go get me coffee, bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted September 14, 2002 I must say I've come to be rather annoyed by the ingratiating sycophants who have lately begun to follow Marney around and stroke her ego at every opportunity. I dunno. At first, I didn't like seeing Bob and Vern acting like "Ooooh, wait until Marney gets here!" But, given some time to think about it, I wouldn't mind having my own personal lapdogs. I'd love to have people spread the word about me wherever they go. I'm not saying I wouldn't probably enjoy being in Marney's position viz a viz the toadies (well there're probably a couple of other positions too), but sweet jesus, what ever happened to having some pride? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 14, 2002 ... I didn't know you liked men, LC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted September 14, 2002 I didn't mean to imply that I did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted September 14, 2002 I'm not saying I wouldn't probably enjoy being in Marney's position viz a viz the toadies (well there're probably a couple of other positions too)Right there. You said you'd enjoy being in my position vis a vis my "toadies," and a couple of other positions too. Since the only females on the board that I know of are Alina and TRITEC, and they both hate me... you must want to experiment with various positions with men. Don't try to deny it. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and I'm glad to see you come out of the closet. Repressing your urges is unhealthy. Hey, if you need some tips on putting on lipstick, PM me. A lot of you guys mess it up the first time 'round. You'll need a new wardrobe too. It's almost fall. I can take you shopping if you like. There's this cute little minidress I saw the other day that would give you a big advantage when you hit the gay singles bars... oh, and don't try to shave your legs by yourself, mmmkay? Talk to me first, sweetie. PS. If you take it up the ass during a one-night stand just make sure the guy wears a condom... you've moved into a rather high-risk group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted September 14, 2002 Yes, yes, very clever. I didn't mean for it to come out that way, but alas... now you know. Just kidding. I'm not stylish enough to be gay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites