WWE Doomsday Clock

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

We used to have three touring (or semi-touring) wrestling companies. Due to circumstance, mis-management, and so on, we're down to one. What with ratings as they are, things going downhill so fast, and those in power too clueless or selfish to fix the company, the whole playing field of wrestling promotions may be going through a massive shakeup in the not-too-far future.

 

So, when do YOU expect the WWE to split, disentigrate, or go out of business? Seems like it's more and more a believable vision these days.

 

Hey, who knows, maybe your guess will be spot on, but we'll probably not be here to inform you if you are. =b

 

Anywho, as for me, I'm guessing that WM XX will be their last big show. What say you?

[Guest MrRant]

WWE isn't going to disapear. It just needs that "it" to bring it back to the for front. If you go from WMX7 to know its actually been almost 2 years of drop off and the drop off hasn't been THAT bad. Probably won't pick up till at least WM19

[Guest XdojimeX]

"So, when do YOU expect the WWE to split, disentigrate, or go out of business?"

 

I'll say somewhere between 3 to 6 years into the heir apparents sure to be catastrophic reign as promoter(s?). Ergo, after Vince croaks and his nevergonnabereadyforprimetime off-spring finally get the keys to the mini-van. I'm sure the dead-corpse of WWE will be kept afloat for awhile afterward via money-marks since the brand will always have some novelty to it no matter how bad it gets (and wrestling probably is always going to find an audience one way or another in this country)...but that'll be the beginning for the end methinks.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Whenever Vince dies and Steph takes over

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

What!? Why not Shane? If Steph takes over I know the WWE will go under.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

What!? Why not Shane? If Steph takes over I know the WWE will go under.

Well that would be my choice too, but I have heard from fairly sensible sources (sk among them) that Vince wants to pass the fed to Steph for some reason

[Guest XdojimeX]

"but I have heard from fairly sensible sources (sk among them)"

 

Hehe...oh wait you we're serious?

 

"that Vince wants to pass the fed to Steph for some reason"

 

Shoot, pick your poison. The Donnie and Marie of pro-wrestling is going to be pretty fucking funny to watch go down in flames though.

[Guest Trivia247]

Shane and Steph are already In Vice President positions in the Company, and their effects so far hasn't been all that appealing. Vince's hold on the company has been slipping since his reclusion after Austin's leaving. people say that Vince actually went into a Depression over it. We already seen certain angles never getting fulfilled. Some rises and falls of people. But I believe however that the WWE will be fine. If and when Vince does Die or somehow gets so feeble that he cannot continue, the company may suffer and lose the McMahon originality. But I believe like I said the WWE will go on. Wheither or No Shane and or Steph at the helm. Keep in mind the WWE has plenty of Wrestling history and Company Managment experience. In the persons of James E Cornette, of Smokey Mountain and of course exposure in NWA. and His Arch Rival and Nemesis Paul E Heyman. not to mention HHH probably gonna have more Power once Vince is gone, thanks to Steph's ummmm influece.

[Guest RevEvil]

What!? Why not Shane?

I guess Steph gives better head.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I guess we'd have to ask Test about that one.

[Guest Mik at Cornell]

WM XX, are you f'n crazy? WWE/F has been through so much worse than right now and pulled through to start another boom.

 

Can mod place a ban on all retarded threads like this? The WWE is not going anywhere.

[Guest Akeem]

WWE will eventually go out of business (probably in 2-3 years). There isn't much left for WWE to do. They can bring in Goldberg for some "dream matches". But that will only help in the short-term. Edge, RVD, Lesnar, etc will not make wrestling "cool" again and bring back the former audience that stopped watching in the past 2 years. After an Attitude era there is NOTHING that will cause the next big era and draw back people.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

WM XX, are you f'n crazy? WWE/F has been through so much worse than right now and pulled through to start another boom.

 

Can mod place a ban on all retarded threads like this? The WWE is not going anywhere.

Absolutely. The WWF isn't going anywhere for a hell of a long time.

 

WCW and ECW went under because they didn't have the huge fanbase and worldwide recognition.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the WWE is still making money so why would they be in danger?

[Guest eiker_ir]

i don't think the WWE will ever go out of business, and if it does i say like in 10 years or something like that because i don't now in what state it could be then....

 

but right now it isn't as bad as some of u make it seem, they'll be eventually another wrestling boom and business will go upo again, and then drop.......it's all a circle that repeats itself......

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Last year, in a supposedly "weak" year (since most people, while trying to act informed only look at TV ratings and then apply them to all revenue streams), WWE pulled in 420 million in gross revenue, and over 10 million in profit. This wasn't as robust as the previous year where they did something like 475 million with way more net profit, but it's still good. Compare this to the "glory days" of 1998: that year they did about 295 million in gross revenue. WWE has over 200 million dollars in operating capital with which they can live on even if they start going red. They arn't going anywhere.

[Guest ISportsFan]

Like SK once said, the wrestling business makes its next star from the oddest places. It's very likely that Edge, RVD, Booker, etc., WON'T be the next big thing in wrestling (Brock either).

 

The business can takes an outcast and transform that loser into the next HHH (circa 2000, like the business did). That's just what happens.

 

Does it happen all the time? No. Edge, RVD, Booker, Jericho, Benoit, etc., COULD be the next big star, but it's likely they won't be.

 

Jason

[Guest SuperTonyJaymz]

WWE is like Cher and Cockroaches...

 

they will always be around

[Guest eiker_ir]

WWE is like Cher and Cockroaches...

 

they will always be around

 

exactly....

[Guest NazMistry]

Last I heard, wasn't it Shane and some one else who finally persuaded Vince to abandon the old gimmick based product.

[Guest Brian]

Shane and Russo was the old story. I think Shane actually has some good creative, but doesn't want to take the responsibility and has that little problem with pushing friends. But at the same time there's enough creative around that could direct anyone unless they were completely hard-headed.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

ECW went under because Heyman ran out of money. (probably months before the actual bankruptcy, I bet)

 

WCW went under because they got all thier money from Turner. When Turner stopped funding them, they were fucked.

 

WWF

 

doh

 

WWE has it's own money, and plenty of it. They won't be going down any time soon just because the're in a slump. As much as we'd love to walk into a McDonald's and see Steph, Bradshaw, and Lawler working the drive thru, it's not gonna happen.

[Guest Brian]

The thing is, the WWE is a wrestling company. They are the wrestling company. It would take ap lethora of bad decisions to sink them.

[Guest NazMistry]

ECW went under because Heyman ran out of money. (probably months before the actual bankruptcy, I bet)

 

WCW went under because they got all thier money from Turner. When Turner stopped funding them, they were fucked.

 

WWF

 

doh

 

WWE has it's own money, and plenty of it. They won't be going down any time soon just because the're in a slump. As much as we'd love to walk into a McDonald's and see Steph, Bradshaw, and Lawler working the drive thru, it's not gonna happen.

Personally I'd love to see Mr Levesque working in McDonalds with one star on his badge (about the same as all his recent matches not involving HBK).

But then again, knowing his proneness to spitting, I wouldn't place an order with him.

[Guest Akeem]

For the quarter ended on July 26, 2002, WWE had a $2,528,000 net income. A year earlier, for the quarter ended on July 27, 2001, WWE had a $11,992,000 net income. This information was from WWE's financial site (corporate.wwe.com). At this pace, by the next quarter, WWE will see a net loss.

Ratings will continue to gradually fall, and eventually TNN and UPN will pull the plug on them.

[Guest Akeem]

>The WWF isn't going anywhere for a hell of a long time. WCW and ECW went under because they didn't have the huge fanbase and worldwide recognition.

 

WWE has just as big of a fanbase as WCW (the 1999 version of WCW). In a couple of years, the ratings for WWE will be just like the 2001 ratings for WCW.

 

>they'll be eventually another wrestling boom and business will go up again, and then drop.......it's all a circle that repeats itself......

 

There have only been two wrestling booms. The Hulk Hogan wrestling boom and the attitude wrestling boom. There has to be more booms than two for it to be a circle that repeats itself.

[Guest NazMistry]

For the quarter ended on July 26, 2002, WWE had a $2,528,000 net income. A year earlier, for the quarter ended on July 27, 2001, WWE had a $11,992,000 net income. This information was from WWE's financial site (corporate.wwe.com). At this pace, by the next quarter, WWE will see a net loss.

Ratings will continue to gradually fall, and eventually TNN and UPN will pull the plug on them.

This all may be true, but the WWE won't ever go bust.

Vince knows there is a slump coming, and you can bet he's got his finances setup so if business drops, he's not going to go bankrupt.

[Guest Akeem]

Vince may have a lot of money, but if he has net losses in his future quarter statements, he will likely stop what he is doing. So not only will TNN and UPN pull the plug, Vince will pull the plug.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Oh god, there's nothing funnier than "WWE/Wrestling will live forever!"

 

Guys, guys, guys... It WILL drop off the national radar sooner or later, and I'm guessing sooner. They made good bucks twice with nice timing (once with Hogan and the whole patriotic angle years and another with Austin and shock value.) That doesn't guarantee this will ALWAYS happen.

 

This doesn't mean that the entire sport dies. I figure the roster will spread themselves out over the various territories and careers will continue, just in samller venues and without front page coverage and appearances on the Today show.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

For the quarter ended on July 26, 2002, WWE had a $2,528,000 net income. A year earlier, for the quarter ended on July 27, 2001, WWE had a $11,992,000 net income. This information was from WWE's financial site (corporate.wwe.com). At this pace, by the next quarter, WWE will see a net loss.

Ratings will continue to gradually fall, and eventually TNN and UPN will pull the plug on them.

*cou-PTC Settlement-gh*

[Guest Akeem]

>>For the quarter ended on July 26, 2002, WWE had a $2,528,000 net income. A year earlier, for the quarter ended on July 27, 2001, WWE had a $11,992,000 net income. This information was from WWE's financial site (corporate.wwe.com). At this pace, by the next quarter, WWE will see a net loss.

Ratings will continue to gradually fall, and eventually TNN and UPN will pull the plug on them.

>*cou-PTC Settlement-gh*

 

Yeah, without the PTC settlement, WWE would have had a net loss of 1 million dollars, since they gained 3.5 million from the settlement and only had a 2.5 million net income.