English Members

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Do the Conservatives over there support Tony Blair when it comes to Iraq. Since it would seem they would be more alligned with a Republican U.S. President, or does party politics get in the way like it would here.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Well, the thing is, party politics in this country is pretty well fucked because the conservatives have no credibility and Blair pretty much does what the hell he wants.

 

But, to answer your question, they are in support of an attack on Iraq. If you want their leader's (Iain Duncan-Smith. No ones heard of him here, either) opinion try this:

 

 

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[Guest DeputyHawk]

the conservatives seem to be more supportive of blair than his own labour party is. u.k. politics is a joke right now, the socialist labour party are leaning more and more to the right, the conservatives moving increasingly to the left, no one seeming to have any clue where their ideologies and/or policies should lie anymore.

[Guest Some Guy]

Didn't Thatcher basically cause the Labour party to centralize more from their Socialist platform because of her popularity in the 80s? Then Blair came around and actually did the centralizing, right?

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Pretty much. Now the Tories are centralising too though. Its all very silly.

[Guest Some Guy]

So are they trying to make both parties exactly the same? Or just bring them closer together like Dems and Republican in America?

[Guest Cancer Marney]

!!!

 

The Democrats and the Republicans are not coming closer together. Heaven forbid. I like having at least one halfway decent party on the front lines.

[Guest Some Guy]

Marney I meant closer together in comparison to the very Socialist Labour Party of the 80s and before and the Thatcher led Conservative party. I'm aware that the Dems are moving further left, but at the same time the GOP is centralizing on more and more issues, it won't be long before the GOP starts getting some more Pro-Choicers in office. The GOP and Dems really aren;t that far apart on most issues, while the labour and Conservative party were miles apart on almost everything a decade or so ago.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Okay, I guess that's fair enough. There are miles and miles between us and the Democrats on procedure, backing, and ethics, though. Last I checked the GOP wasn't a wholly owned subsidiary of the unions, and lying about liberals hadn't become not only an accepted but an institutionalised practice.

[Guest Some Guy]

I didn't the that people from the parties were close together, just most of the issues. Most Dems are liars and cheaters, while most GOP members aren't. There are obviously some exceptions to the rule, though, Carter and Nixon come to mind.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Carter is just an idiot. I don't think he has enough brains to lie. I'm still amazed that Yasser Arafat's would-be speechwriter was ever elected.

[Guest Some Guy]

But he was not a liar, he is by most accounts a very honest and charitable guy, where as Nixon was not. I just used them as two well known names who were exceptions to the rules.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

He may be honest. But an honest fool is worth even less than a dishonest fool; you can work with a crook but you can't work with a moron.

 

Jay Nordlinger on Jimmy Carter

[Guest Some Guy]

True.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

So are they trying to make both parties exactly the same? Or just bring them closer together like Dems and Republican in America?

Well...they're not really *trying* to bring them together. Its just kinda happening. Blair make a sprint for the middle ground as soon as he became leader of the Labour party whilst in opposition.

 

Now the tories are moving leftish as well, which is a bit odd because I think there are still more conservatives than liberals in this country.

 

It would have been interesting if the leader of the labour party before Blair, a very fine man named John Smith, had not died of a heart attack.

 

It was believed he could have been prime minister.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

If anyone can name me more than a few differences in policy the two parties have I'd be very impressed. I actually chose not to vote in the last election as I thought both manifesto's were as crap as each other

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Labour are in favour of EMU. Tories aren't.

 

That's the only really definite one I can think of off the top of my head.

 

I'm going to vote LibDem next time.

[Guest WhenDanSaysJump]

I wanna vote Natural Law. They are going to save Britain with YOGIC FLYING~!

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

They were great. They're policy on everything was said YOGIC FLYING~!

Unemployment? Pollution? Racism? Do some YOGIC FLYING~!

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Yeah but you could never beat the Monster Raving Loony Party

 

RIP Screaming Lord Sutch

[Guest Cancer Marney]

!!!

 

Cat Mandu is dead.

 

Christ, that really sucks. I remember reading about his election a couple of years ago.