Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 17, 2002 According to Strong Style Spirit Joanie Laurer vs. Masahiro Chono has been officially added to the 10/14 Tokyo Dome show. Oh Christ. So the Dome show looks like this: NWF Heavyweight Title Tournament - Semi Final: Tadao Yasuda vs. Tsuyoshi Kosaka IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Winner of Kanemoto/Tiger Mask © vs. Heat Manabu Nakanishi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama Yuji Nagata vs. Kazuyuki Fujita Masahiro Chono vs. Joanie Laurer Kensuke Sasaki vs. Kazunari Murakami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted September 17, 2002 Erk. All I have to say..is that TAFKA Chyna better not win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 17, 2002 Oh man *salavates* Chonos gonna break some Chyna bones. This is gonna be a great day in wrestling. When she fucks up, hes gonna rip her in two. Oh joy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 17, 2002 I don't think Chyna is booked for the tour after the dome show, so I am guessing Chono will win. Either way, this show won't draw well at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DragonflyKid Report post Posted September 17, 2002 I'd be interested to know how the crowds are reacting to her. Does she get good heat? Is her offense taken with credibility? I would think the old-school traditionalists would be against her being there. I think alienating the fanbase would have negative long-term consequeces while the short-term pub and curiosity would fade quickly. Just like Vince giving exposure to HLA for short-term rating increases(Which alienates the fanbase who want to enjoy wrestling with their children.) at the expense of the wrestlers who need the exposure to become stars and ensure the success of the WWE in the future. If Lauer would have went to a female fed where she could of been a monster that could get by with limited talent that would have been fine with me, in NJ against men she can't be an intimidating presence and she's nowhere near being a great wrestler who would be credible against talented males. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted September 17, 2002 "Either way, this show won't draw well at all." I think it will, I think it will draw very well. Whether the shooters or Chyna are good wrestlers or not does not matter, they are very over and popular. Chyna is a curiosity, the Japanese love curiosities in the short term, and she IS NOT going over Chono in a singles match, not unless some huge screw job happens. Whatever way it's booked, it will be hugely heated though. Also, Nagata / Fujita was voted MOTY by most of the Jap media last year, so the rematch will be huge. Takayama is becoming a massive name and he's the GHC Heavyweight Champion, always a plus. Him vs. Nakanishi was a good match before as well, even better with a title on the line. The whole shooter vs. NJPW feud thing is turning into a huge issue, which is selling out buildings AND the NWF Title won't hurt matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted September 17, 2002 What I don't understand is all the people creaming over the thought of Laurer possibly getting hurt (i.e., "hes gonna rip her in two"). For Christ's sake, it's just wrestling, and she's a human being too (and not even the worst worker in her faction). You're reacting like she murdered your children or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted September 17, 2002 Chono isn't exactly Akira Maeda, either. Not only is he the booker and therefore would only be hurting himself to take business into his own hands, but he'd have to be out of his mind to shoot on someone who's benefactor is Inoki, because that would be really, really stupid. And even if, despite all that, he still felt the need to hurt her, the guy probably couldn't do anything, considering that he's old and broken down. Platypus, back when I questioned the judgement of Chono to book himself against Lauler, you said it likely wouldn't happen, but here it is, and the situation hasn't changed at all. Lauler has still done nothing reputable but defeat worthless juniors and young lions. She still has no place taking on Chono at the Tokyo Dome, regardless of her status as a curiousity, or attraction, or whatever the current buzzword is for Non-Wrestlers that New Japan Pushes. Oh wait, I almost fogot - she shoved a cake in his face! This is a heated feud that will sell out the Tokyo Dome? Did I miss something here? Just clarify, are you saying that both Yasuda and Yanagisawa are "very over and popular?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 18, 2002 have you ever seen a Chyna match, it feels like murder.(joke) My beef is her attitude of im better then you, Im so special cause im a woman in a mans world, And when the show tanks, it should give her the clear sign to do something else with her life. But im willing to bet, she wont. And its not like im asking for her neck to be broken, just an orbital or something small. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted September 18, 2002 Platypus, back when I questioned the judgement of Chono to book himself against Lauler, you said it likely wouldn't happen, but here it is, and the situation hasn't changed at all. Lauler has still done nothing reputable but defeat worthless juniors and young lions. She still has no place taking on Chono at the Tokyo Dome, regardless of her status as a curiousity, or attraction, or whatever the current buzzword is for Non-Wrestlers that New Japan Pushes. Oh wait, I almost fogot - she shoved a cake in his face! This is a heated feud that will sell out the Tokyo Dome? Did I miss something here? Just clarify, are you saying that both Yasuda and Yanagisawa are "very over and popular?" I'm not saying that Chono vs. Chyna will sell out the Tokyo Dome, but it is a match the fans are curious to see and I don't think it will hurt. I'm saying that Fujita / Nagata and Nakanishi / Takayama will help NJPW get close to a sell out at the Tokyo Dome, and, indeed, the rest of the card. And yes, at the moment I am saying Yasuda and Yanagisawa are very over. The fans HATE them at the moment as they continue to win tag matches by dubious means. They want to see these two get the beating that's coming to them, meaning that they will help to get a good crowd on 10/14. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted September 18, 2002 Whether they're interested or not, there's no excuse for someone like Chono (who went over both Tenzan and Takayama previously) to be booked against someone with zero credibility at the Tokyo Dome. Let the fans see this match at a smaller show, maybe even at Sumo Hall, but not the Tokyo Dome. This is a company that has been having a harder and harder time drawing in Tokyo in the last few years, if they're going to build someone up (like they have Chono) it should be used to draw fans. Takayama is becoming a pretty big star, but does anyone think Nakanishi has a chance in hell here? Takayama has already gone over Fujita, and is facing the winner of Kohsaka/Yasuda, so what sense would it make for him to lose here? Plus, we've already seen these two face off in a build-up match for 5/2, so it's not as if this is a novelty. That pretty much leaves Nagata/Fujita to draw for the show, and I don't see that happening, thanks to both guys (ironically enough) getting lossing to Filipovik in shoots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted September 18, 2002 There are now new stips in the Chono/Laurer match. Chono said if he wins, she's banned for life.(crosses fingers) If Laurer wins, she gets an IWGP shot. Me thinks Chono is going over. The only question is whether it'll be an embarrassing squash like he did to Nakamaki at the 1/4/97 Dome show or if he'll actually sell for her. IMO, she's not going over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 18, 2002 Nah, I doubt she will win. She is not one of the foreigners booked for the tour after the Dome show, so I guess that suggests she will be gone. To PlatypusFool: I don't think this will be a good drawing show, particularly for the Tokyo Dome. There was talk of Kobashi/Chono, instead we get Chono/Laurer. I hope no-one is believing that the Japanese people actually voted for this match, as that was a blatant work. Although Nagata/Fujita was a good match last year, doesn't mean it will draw strong, I didn't think Fujita was a good draw at all, I could be wrong. They have fought many times too. The Takayama match is a good idea, but I think NOAH should feature more if they are looking for big money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 18, 2002 "There are now new stips in the Chono/Laurer match. Chono said if he wins, she's banned for life." Of course in wrestling that means you'll be back in 3 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted September 18, 2002 "Of course in wrestling that means you'll be back in 3 weeks." Maybe that's the rule in North America where stips don't mean shit anymore, but in Japan I can see the stips being enforced being that Laurer isn't signed on to tour after the Dome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Is it a ban from wrestling in a New Japan ring or banned from New Japan outright? I'd figure the former unless Inoki has something else planned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted September 19, 2002 Im sure when they drop her, some other japan promotion will pick her up...to Hayabusa DONT YOU FUCKING DARE SIGN HER!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted September 19, 2002 If need be, she can always head over to the Joshi promotions to pick her up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites