The One and Only week 12 thread

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

There were a couple of good teams there I would have liked to see win. Oh well.

 

Okay. Battle royal was good and had it's moments, but the final four of Young Cowboys vs Big Tattooed Hosses totally drained my spirits.

 

Country Bumpkin Bookin' don't impress this City Boy.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Lynn dictates the start, leading Truth into traps all over the ring.

 

Truth gains the upperhand by tossing Lynn outside and taking him out out there.

 

Lynn is bleeding, and Killings starts to target Lynns wounds

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Lynn tries to trap Killings into making a mistake again....but this time Truth figures that out and maintains the upperhand.

 

Lynn's juicing good now.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Lynn is constantly beating Killings to the punch with counters and go behinds...but Truth uses his strength advantage to take control time and time again. Then goes right back to work on Lynn's cut.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Killings is beating the hell out of Lynn's head now, even his counters are starting to target Lynn's bloody head.

 

Truth said going in he would ground Lynn and there would be no flip flop X style offense...

 

It took him a while to catch up with Lynn...but Truth is now dictating the pace.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

All the X guys are coming around the ring now...playing off of Siaki's statement that they needed to support Lynn as he strikes a blow and puts the X division on the map.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

lynn reverses an attempted suplex into a DDT.

 

Siaki knocks Lynn off the top allowing Truth to get the win on a match that would have been better served to continue the story of Truth beating on Lynn and having it end by Lynn coming up just short as a result.

 

Instead...Siaki somehow became the main focus of the finish.

 

That...I don't get.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

JJ vs. Road Dogg

 

X-Suck vs. Lawler

 

next week...

 

I dun died and gone to the 1999 WWF midcard.

 

Lo Ki returns next week too.

 

I got my markout moment though...as Truth nailed Road Dogg as Tenay referenced their ill fated tag team.

 

HAHAHA

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

That ending was overbooked. Not only did it distract the cameras to have all these guys coming down the ramp, but the only thing I could see is either Styles making interferance (easy guess, and sure enough that's what they went for) or a Low-Ki turn (would that even work?) since he was suspiciously missing.

 

Oh, and that bladejob from Lynn was JESUS MANLY sized for today's standards. Haven't seen anything like that this year except for HHH/HBK.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Lo Ki is in Japan at the moment, but will return next week.

 

I really wish they had kept going with the actual match and not the lame ending.

[Guest BigPoppaKev]

How was the Killings/Lynn match. It sounded decent. Any star ratings for it or opinions?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Personal Opinion: ***. Could have made ***1/4 if it weren't for the crappy ending.

 

This whole show was pretty good and I imagine it could have been one of the best if the Miss TNA bit was clipped and some of the fodder were removed from the tag gauntlet.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

The Lynn/Killings match never got over the hump because the good build up off the first half got thrown out in favor of crap.

 

And it got sloppy when they changed direction too.

 

It was basically the first half of a match that could have been something...but was not.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

That's what I thought. They wanted to make a **** match but didn't have the time, or something. I could have lived with a 14 man Battle Royal for a longer ME.

[Guest Raven_Effect01]

Styles vs. Kash was good, and Lynn vs. The Truth was decent(except for the bad ending, even Mike Tenay said it was disappointing), but other than that, nothing else really interested me(why the hell were Lawler and Bagwell not eliminated earlier?) on tonight's edition of NWA-TNA.

[Guest HartFan86]

I just got back from a friend's house who ordered it and we all just sat there for 2 hours falling asleep. Kash vs. Styles was the MOTN, and Killings vs. Lynn was just way too overbooked and it made no sense.

 

I must get stuck with the shitty shows cause this is the 2nd NWA: TNA PPV I've seen and both have sucked. I'm just glad I didn't pay tonight.

[Guest RedJed]

Show had its ups and downs as usual per the TNA shows anymore.

 

Definate thumbs down for the crap again with Bruce and the ansuing mess afterwards. Just end this angle already, jeez.

 

And now another great Russo idea in Screech winning horrible looking fake boxing matches against ring crew members. Smell the buyrate!!

 

The rest wasn't too bad, but the gauntlet match was extremely boring IMO. Just went nowhere the entire time. Some of those teams in there were weak, like Disco and Lawler, ugh. I didn't like the desicion of putting Harris and Lee in there with the new champs for that "match." Honestly, I think any other team BUT them would have been better.

 

Not sure what to make of them having Waltman and Road Dogg now. I actually used to like both of them many moons ago, but their act (especially Road Doggs) is so old and stale its sad. Waltman might turn back into a decent wrestler though, but you never know. Anyway in their current role, I could give a shit less about them at this point.

 

Styles and Kash was a solid *** 1/2 match that was stiff as hell in spots. THe triangle tag was pretty damn good too, about ***.

 

Main event was fun to watch up until the finish. They ruined the match with that crap. Lynn busted his ass and bled like a fucking champ. Wish they would have went 5-10 more minutes without inteference instead of getting a hype job for next week and one of those formulmatic pointless brawls to end the show.

 

I just wish the booking would get consistent. It's would be the equivalent of switching channels back and forth to two wrestling shows for two hours that are complete opposites of one another or something. How are they planning on creating a solid fanbase with this when they are probably confusing the fans more than anything with wishy-washy booking concepts.

 

Russo isn't helping this company at all if you ask me. I thought he could throw in some fun ideas for things but I haven't seen a damn thing he's done yet that can be considered a real positive.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

"Main event was fun to watch up until the finish. They ruined the match with that crap. Lynn busted his ass and bled like a fucking champ. Wish they would have went 5-10 more minutes without inteference instead of getting a hype job for next week and one of those formulmatic pointless brawls to end the show."

 

amen to that.

[Guest Angle2004]

I love how everyone blames Russo. Screech isn't the first celebrity to be involved and actually wrestle a match.... they had the same thing for Hermie at the beginning. Everyone blamed Russo for the Dupp Cup and then it was revealed that Jerry Jarret came up with it. I enjoyed the first couple shows better and I do think Jerry should go back to writing them but Russo should be kept around to work with younger talent. He did a great job with Truth, Lynn, Styles, Siaki, Hot Shots, etc.

[Guest HartFan86]

I'm not sure what the hell happened in the main event. It was definately a clusterfuck, but they kinda just thru everything together. It was boring.

 

The battle royal was really fucking boring and the finish was stupid.

[Guest Phoenix Fury Legdrop]

Oh, and that bladejob from Lynn was JESUS MANLY sized for today's standards. Haven't seen anything like that this year except for HHH/HBK.

 

I haven't technically seen it (we don't TNA on our cable), but I can just about guarentee that it wasn't as bloody as Rick Michaels at NWA Wildside Freedom Fight 2002. He absolutely destroyed the "Muto scale" within seconds, and still worked about ten minutes, which afterwards he was wearing a crimson suit of armor. I'll check back on this when I see a picture of Lynn's blade job.

[Guest HartFan86]

Lynn's bladejob was really good, but it was just like a regular Corino/HHH one.

[Guest JHawk]

My thoughts (yes, I actually had the extra ten bucks this week):

 

1. Hot opener with Kash and Styles, and the Super Styles Clash didn't look that botched to me.

 

2. Decent triple threat, but it was hard to get into when I didn't know who anybody was.

 

3. If you do for HHH-RVD Sunday what they did for Killings-Lynn tonight except give it a real ending, I'll be happy. Good until the finish, which does make sense.

 

A. Siaki says "it's not all about me".

B. Siaki says "Let's support Lynn".

C. Siaki costs Lynn the match, thus giving him an X Title match.

D. Siaki was lying about A, so it's really all about...Sonny Siaki.

 

4. Kill the non-wrestling shit. Ooo, Screech beat an overweight timekeeper. Ohhh, TNA is sponsoring a race car. Ooo, a gay transvestite is beating up women. Bah.

 

Overall, the wrestling was good, the other was crap. Go with more wrestling.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I haven't technically seen it (we don't TNA on our cable), but I can just about guarentee that it wasn't as bloody as Rick Michaels at NWA Wildside Freedom Fight 2002.

Yes but I can't count that if I haven't seen it before, can I?

 

Thanks for the info though. I'm not much for way excessive gore (I prefer a simple blade job to make a guy look like he's near the end rather than a full out juicefest) but that's certainly way beyond the Lynn thing. Lynn's blade was reminiscant of HHH at SSlam.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I wish I could add something unique to the thread, but I think opinions on the show are pretty much unanimous.

 

-I realized this would be a show that emphasises the wrestling less as soon as it took 15 minutes to have the first match. That said, great to see Scott Hall back who's been nothing but a complete pro since he arrived at TNA. He seems to really be enjoying himself.

-Masked Bullet was the predictable Roaddogg, who again I'm happy to see back, and hope he gets himself straight like Hall. Funny thing, anyone else notice that the masked man magically had tatooes on his arms this week and was several inches taller too? I'm gonna have to get used to "BG James" too. "BG" just doesnt roll off the tong as easily as "BJ" or "AJ".

-Styles vs. Kash was pretty excellent. They were both busting out some stiff new moves.

-The Dustin Diamond thing was absolutely pointless. To the guy who said it was no different that Hermie's appearence, that's not true. Hermie was first of all promoting something, and was used as the catalyst to introduce the fans to the new K-Krush. They developed the feud over 3 weeks, and when the match came, Hermie did pretty well for himself. This was just stupid shit that I'm sure Russo and Jeremy Borash (he booked a lot of stupid crap in WWA) came up with thinking it'd be funny. He wasn't even promoting anything, it didn't get anyone over and it wasn't even an actual match. Waste of time and money.

-End this Miss TNA shit now. Where is Lenny anyway? And what happened to Gertner? And The Johnsons? And Plumtree for that matter?

-3 way was ok, mostly a spotfest but I didnt know who anyone was or tell them apart.

-Hall and Syxxpac looked good. Hey, I liked Syxx's promo and I think he's serious about working hard. He can be himself and wrestle the style he's used to without limitations. He something to prove, and I think like Hall, he's going to take it up a notch. That's my opinion though.

-Gauntlet was decent if a little boring. The right team won though. They've made stars out of Harris and Storm.

-Title match was ok. Lynn bled like a champ and I was getting into it, but the ending seem to suck the life out of it. I guess Lynn and Siaki are going to feud now for the X title.

 

Overall, not the best show they've put on but not the worst. I was dissapointed that they haven't conitnued the wrestling heavy format of the last couple weeks. Hopefully someone will finally realize what gets over, and what doesnt.

[Guest Phoenix Fury Legdrop]

Lynn's blade was reminiscant of HHH at SSlam.

 

Then, yeah, Rick's was way more bloodier. I'll get more in-depth when I post my review for the show on SmarkTalk.com in a month or so, but Freedom Fight 2002's really a show that everyone should get, and not just for the Rick Michaels "body of blood" bladejob (he pricks his forehead like normal, but he hit an artery or a vein or something, because the next time you see him on camera, he's turned red).

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

-Hall and Syxxpac looked good. Hey, I liked Syxx's promo and I think he's serious about working hard. He can be himself and wrestle the style he's used to without limitations. He something to prove, and I think like Hall, he's going to take it up a notch. That's my opinion though.

I kinda thought that too at first, although it kind of changed on me after a bit. After all, if Pac does suddently pull out the whoop-ass, what does it do? There's nowhere else for him to go, as I doubt the WWE will be picking him back up anytime soon.

 

However, he may end up behaving himself for the same reason Hall is: to keep his family fed. If TNA collapses, Hall and Pac are left in limbo.

[Guest The Notorious CRD]

I don't have anything new or unique to add to this thread, but I'll throw my opinions out there anyway.

 

1) The X division continues to be their best hook. AJ Styles and Kid Kash put on a solid, if spotty, match and the three-way tag featuring X division teams was good as well.

 

2) Signing Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, and B.G. James was a good choice IMO. All three have are recognizable to wrestling fans and can "bring it" when they're motivated.

 

3) Of all the talent, they're considering signing, I'd say I'm most againt the Hot Shots. Their mic skills are non-existent and their transitions are worse than most other X division competitors. That's saying something.

 

4) Killings vs. Lynn had potential, but as several others have stated, it was way overbooked. When will promoters learn that if they really want to put on a solid match, it needs to be relatively clean?

 

5) Tonight's show was alright and a decent re-lauch for them, but they really need to use less backstage stuff and focus on the wrestling.

 

Being the TNA mark that I am, I desperately want them to succeed, but there are some things that need fixing. Hopefully Jerry Jarrett will see that after tonight's show.

[Guest J*ingus]

Was there live tonight, as usual. Not much to report that hasn't been already stated here. Except this: Scott Keith blows at reviewing these shows. One star for Kash/Styles?! And every time he hated something (which was constantly), he'd refer to it as "indy". Like, "too many indy guys" and "they go through their indy bullshit highspots" and such. Fucking blind WW(F)E mark. Why does Scott hate independent wrestling?

[Guest RedJed]

What bugged me about the show was that they've had something like a full month to book a loaded show and this was the best they apparently could come up with. Sure, bringing back Waltman and Armstrong was a solid move, but look at how they were used (and are booked to be used next week). Their roles tonight were less than groundbreaking and impactful.

 

I figured with the Screech thing, we would at least have him get his ass kicked by Puppet or something since he mentioned "midget" at some point there. Guess it was just coincidence or something. That segment though was worse than any of the Bruce crap from the weeks gone by, and thats really saying something when you think about it. The Bruce stuff is easily one of the worst ideas ever in wrestling, and I honestly don't think a purist like Jarrett had any creative role in that. But still he has to be faulted for keeping that shit on every week. And now they think Hermie Sadler is going to make it even more interesting? Ugh. Just f'n get a woman out there you want to push hard (what the hell happened to Aliesha?) and have her beat him and end it already.

 

I just don't see next week being any good at all and I might skip out on it. I'm sure Siaki causing the finish will just lead to a one week match with him and Lynn next week, or at least I hope. I'm sorry but Siaki has zero talent in my eyes and I would much rather see either of the other Elvises get a push before him.