so wrestlemania..........

[Guest tombstone]

so

Undisputed WWF Title

Chris Jericho © w/ Stephanie vs. Triple H

If kept reasonably clean, these two can put on a 4 or 5 * match as they have shown in the past.  If Stephanie gets involved too much as she probably will, its all over.  Id like to see Jericho win, scewily of course to set up a HHH - Rock type feud to balance the nWo angle until they get round to HHH at Judgement day or King of the Ring.

Judgement:  Could be great, carrying the undercard.

 

The Rock vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan

Well Hogan had to fight Rock or Austin and Rock got the nod.  I thought there was more money in a Hogan / Austin match but there you go.

Hogan is a hoss and Rocky is a (admittedly rapidly improving) brawler cum tech.  Unless booked well this could stink.  If booked well it could be an actual classic.  I imagine interference leading to the Big Leg for Hogans win (has to be or the angle dies like the InVasion).

Judgement:  If Hogan sells a bit and they dont overbook it, this could draw 4 stars and get the crowd involved.

 

Scott Hall vs. Stone Cold

Hall as sacrificial lamb to Austin (who incidentaly will not fight for the title (when fit) for the first wrestlemania since his push began (essentially vs. Hart at WM13).

Hall might get win with Nash interference, of course Austin cant take the Razors Edge with his neck (or a jacknife for that matter) so I imagine an Austin victory from a none too shabby match.

 

Intercontinental Title

William Regal © vs. Rob Van Dam

Get the belt on RVD already and stop Regal stinking up the midcard.

Judgement:Thanks to Regal not suiting RVD AT ALL a stinker, but RVD should claim the title.

 

Tag Titles

Billy & Chuck © vs. APA

Spare me. Either the APA to be sacrificed to the outsiders or Billy & Chuck to continue their reiogn of cringe, but who really cares.

Judgement: Kill them. Kill them all.

 

QUESTION: So who in the blue hell are Edge, Kevin Nash, Kurt Angle, Booker T, Test etc. fighting.

MORE TIME TO THE UNDERCARD PLEASE

 

The card is top heavy as hell with the top three matches likely to be 20 mins plus.  But the undercard sucks, although if put in decent matches Angle, Booker etc. could lift it.

The Hardys & Dudleys badly need a turn and a reunion of Edge & Christian (in theior home state) would not go amiss.

Booker & Test can either be pushed as a viable tag team OR be bred as RVDs opposition for the IC title for the next few months.

Is Tajiri planning on defending that Cruiserweight title, he should, it would add to the show. (Also a feud with Kidman over Torries affections would be viable).

Need to sort hardcore title out PLEASE.

 

Thats about all.

[Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye]

As far as I'm concerned right now, Wrestlemania will go down as a decent ppv. Unfortunately, that don't cut it for the major shows. It's gonna either produced several very good matches, and with the NWO being the wildcards in the whole thing, it's either doomed to mediocrity or if the stars and moons are aligned (Mr.) perfectly, the show will be able to stand the test of time in a positive sense.

 

I'm hopefull but i honestly don't expect to get blown away by the greatest show ever.

 

And that is not a good thing.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I think they've booked themselves into a corner.

 

Nothing will be great

 

Nothing will outright suck (except for the tag title match)

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

If Jericho retains, I won't care about the rest of the show.

Most of it looks kinda tolerable. The tag titles is awful, homophobic comedy like Billy n Chuck just ain't funny.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I'll walk away less disapointed if 3 things happen:

 

1.  Jericho retains

2.  RVD wins the IC title

3.  Flair ends Taker's winning streak

[Guest Tony149]

First off, I'll have to pull an all nighter, but that's a different story. On to WrestleMania. After watching Raw, I want Jericho to lose the title. I just noticed how boring his segments were. I don't know why I think they were boring. I just feel that way. Maybe it's because I wanted him to be his WCW heel.

[Guest old_mort_wwfe]

this is what you do for Wrestlemania:

 

have 4 hours of LaParka dancing and nailing people with steel chairs...best Wrestlemania ever in my book.

 

seriously though...a Jericho loss and an RVD win and even Flair being the one to end The Wrestlemania Streak = me a happy camper. As for the Rock/Hogan and Austin/ Hall matches...i don't care if there not the greatest wrestling clinics......if they entertain me thats all i ask

[Guest Dace59]

RVD... selling Regal's double underhook poweromb? It'll look like the TD'91!

I wanna see Regal hit an Avalanche or Apron one on RVD.

RVD should win, but not by the Five Star, something else.

 

Angle's going aganist Kane... He should be able to carry him to a half decnt match.

[Guest Army Eye]

I'd rather a younger guy end Taker's Wrestlemania streak.  It's a lot of 'rub' to give and I don't think Flair needs it much at this point in his career

[Guest Rabies]

"I'd rather a younger guy end Taker's Wrestlemania streak.  It's a lot of 'rub' to give and I don't think Flair needs it much at this point in his career"

 

Yeah, seriously. If the WWF were serious about The Great Edge Experiment (which has cooled off since No Way Out by the way) what better way for Edge to go over UT than in his hometown of Toronto? I was hoping for a Flair/Angle match at WM, since Flair was the one who made Angle defend his WM title show on Raw.

[Guest The Electrifyer]

Yeah, when they announced WM X8 was gonna be in Toronto, I thought Edge for sure would be in some huge match and win but now, hes not even in a major feud with anyone anymore. I wished at least for Edge to face Regal and beat him at WM, but him vs. Regal has just occured for too many times.

[Guest art_vandelay]

RVD... selling Regal's double underhook poweromb? It'll look like the TD'91!

I wanna see Regal hit an Avalanche or Apron one on RVD.

RVD should win, but not by the Five Star, something else.

Regal would be so over if he used a TD'91 in the match.  But if he doesn't get a 1-2-3 with it, it would not mean that much.  I wouldn't hold my breath for any avalanche or apron variations of it though.

 

I think RVD should use the Van Terminator in the match, somehow.  I know it's not hardcore and I know he doesn't have anybody to hold up the chair for him, but if there was ever a time for him to debut the VT in the WWF, WrestleMania would be it.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I agree about the VAn terminator.

 

WrestleMania is THE place to bust it out.  I've been waiting to see him do it...and instead had to see him stop doing the van daminator for several months (before busting a top rope one out on Big Show at Raw)

[Guest Rabies]

What sucks is that a lot of fans will say RVD stole the VD from Shane. The INJUSTICE!

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Yeah...I know.

 

But it's more impressive on a chair than a garbage can.

 

And RVD is so over...that I doubt it would be a big deal for the marks.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I won't be too upset with Jericho/HHH either way, if Jericho wins that's fine.  Even though he's the heel I like him better.  If HHH wins, well, he should so it won't bother me.  Either way it goes it's not the end of the feud by a long shot.  We haven't even had Jericho and Steph do the nasty yet.

 

I dunno, since Shane has already done the VT I don't think RVD should bust it out.  I have never been a big fan of that move, it just takes forever and a day to set up.  I think RVD should bust out the insane sommersault into the 5th row spot on Regal though.  What I want though is Ultimate Warrior/Honky Tonk Man....a total squash.

 

I actually think Rock/Hogan will be good, but I don't know how to book it.  I mean on one hand the NWO angle is screwed if Hogan loses, yet Rock is a job boy for life if he loses.  I say let Rock win but then the NWO does something heinous to him the next night on Raw and then Hogan gets the win back at the next show.  Anyway, I say Hogan will turn it up because at WMs he usually has.  Think of him slamming Andre, having cool matches with Macho and Warrior, etc.

[Guest Dace59]

Regal's never gonna use the TD'91....

The VT doesn't need someone holding the chair. If he does use it, it'll have to be a PPV main event

The sucicdia somersault plancha into the crowd isn't gonna happen either.

RVD should use the Triple F facebuster (SUWA's one, used on Jeff at InVasion) Or maybe try a triple jump somersault 5* (never, ever gonna happen, but I'd love to see it).

[Guest Loss4Words]

"After watching Raw, I want Jericho to lose the title. I just noticed how boring his segments were. I don't know why I think they were boring. I just feel that way. Maybe it's because I wanted him to be his WCW heel."

 

I agree that his segment wasn't that great on Monday night but consider a few things:

 

1. He *did* play the WCW heel early in his WWF stay and ended up getting INSANELY over as a babyface. I think that by eliminating the comedy, he's just trying to not get the wrong kind of heat.

 

2. He doesn't have much storyline to work with. Jericho was so much better in the Rock feud because Rock actually sold for Jericho in dueling promos and let Y2J get the best of him occasionally. There are only two weeks until Wrestlemania and HHH has beaten him down in every single segment. There's no heat on Jericho going into the PPV, unless they do what they have done the past few months in that one week before the show, they realize Jericho hasn't been built up properly going into the PPV, so he becomes an awesome force of character either on Raw (attacking Austin with the ice cooler and beers) or Smackdown (making the Rock look like Chris Benoit as far as mic work goes in the best heel interview in at least ten years.)

 

3. Chris Jericho is being booked as a non-factor. The issue is with HHH and Stephanie. Jericho is just a plot device. As we know, he's far too talented to play that role, but when you're in that role, there's only so much you can do. If they thought they could get away with it, I'm sure we'd just get HHH v Steph at Wrestlemania.

 

4. He's drawing just as high quarter hours as the NWO and they're getting all the announcer attention and television time. They're not stamped all over the show like everyone feared, but the announcers don't mention Jericho until his segments while they talk about the NWO all night. When the WWF ignores its own champ and his TV time is less than that of Booker T, a midcard heel, or Kurt Angle, the supposed #2 heel, or the Undertaker, the supposed #3 heel, then it's hard to stay in the casual fan's immediate memory bank.

 

In conclusion, Jericho is doing exceptionally well with what he's being given. He could draw mega beaucoups super duper mucho dinero if he was being given as much TV time as the other top guys.

[Guest Singular]

Wrestlemania definetly doesn't look good.

 

HHH vs. Jericho - Both guys are good provided HHH is 100% ready to go.  Their "Last Man Standing" match a while ago was good.  I dont care who wins.  Jericho is doing a great job as the heel champ, but on the flipside, HHH could make an excellent face champ.

 

Austin vs. Hall (Nash if Hall is fired) - eh.  Austin will have to carry Hall.  Please don't go over 10 minutes.

 

Rock vs. Hogan - Battle of two of the worst finishers in wrestling.  The Legdrop vs. The elbow drop.  This is another "eh" match to me.  I don't care to see Hogan wrestle anymore.  Hopefully a short match.

 

Gay Duo vs. APA - Boring.  WWF needs a stronger tag team division.

 

RVD vs. Regal - Clash of the styles.  I don't think this will be very good considering the TOTAL opposite styles used by each guy.  The only upside I can see is that if RVD gets the gold, he can move on to a feud with Edge or someone more suitable for his reckless, fast paced matches.  If Regal retains, I would like to see him work with Lance Strom, but considering the popularity of RVD, (boggels my mind), I'm guessing he will get the tiltle.

 

Rumor matches

Undertaker vs. Ric Flair - Whatever.  Takers never lost at Wrestlemania, so I'm guessing he will loose this one since he is taking on the "Dirtiest player in the game"

 

Angle vs. Kane - Kurt has pulled good mathes out of Kane and Taker in the past.  Show be okay.

 

Jazz vs. Trish - dont give a shit untill Jazz gets some real competition. (Not Chyna)

[Guest art_vandelay]

The VT doesn't need someone holding the chair. If he does use it, it'll have to be a PPV main event

This isn't Shane's garbage can, it's a flat, steel chair.  It won't hold up if you try to nudge it in between the ropes.

[Guest goodhelmet]

I'm not excited about this card at all.

 

Noone knows how the NWO is going to perform so why would the WWF put them in a position to be exposed as lousy wrestlers? I think a 6man would have hid their faults while they can still make an impact.

 

Tag Title Match- Does anyone want to see these two teams wrestle at all, ever? There's a hundred guys with contracts not doing jackshit and this was the best they could do?

 

IC Match- The one saving grace is that while they may clash stylistically, they both have a rep for working stiff. If they dish out the pain, it might be watchable. Still horrible booking though. Why does Regal still have the belt?

 

Taker-Flair - This is two old guys who shouldn't be wrestling each other. If Taker wins, then where does Flair get his revenge for Taker beating up everybody? If Flair wins, then you have someone who doesn't wrestle full time going over one of your main guns. What's the point? Angle-Flair would have made more sense since Flair cost Angle his title shot at Mania. And the match could have been magical.

 

Austin-Hall austin is the biggest star in the WWF yet he isn't fighting Rock or Trips (both of whom still have unresolved issues with him) or for the title. Instead he is fighting a midcarder. Hall is not main event material. Him and Nash should be teaming up to fight Kane and Show or APA or any other scrub team. The match might suck but your entire main event scene would not be ruined.

 

Angle-Kane? See above Flair-UT. The match may be good but is insignificant. The buildup has been weak. I would have preferred a 3way for the belt which at least it would be different.

 

Trips-Jericho. This match may be really solid. I just have a feeling it may be like Trips -Angle from No Way Out and be screwy as hell. I predict 15 run-ins, 4 ref bumps, 6 foreign objects, and Stephanie shenanigans. How sad is it that the main event revolves around a broken up marriage?

 

Hogan-Rock. One for the ages. Sometimes it's better to have fantasy matchups stay fantasy. This would be one of those times. Hogan hasn't wrestled for nearly two years. What makes you think he can deliver an entertaing matchup? To hide his weaknesses, the match will probably be as screwy as Trips-Jericho. The crowd heat will probably be amazing for about three minutes ubtil the Canadiens realize Hogan can't wrestle. Then whatcha gonna do?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

i'm kinda sorta a little tiny bit looking forward to scott hall's in ring ppv return but it's going to end up being a clusterfuck so i don't know but this could be the worst wrestlemania in years

[Guest goodhelmet]

well, if it's going to be the worst, you have to compare it to WM9 and that was pretty damn bad. It really depends if Hall-Austin can be entertaining and how screwy Trips-Jericho is. Hopefully, some matches will be added to the midcard to improve the quality. Maybe Edge-Booker! or Christian-DDP. who knows? There's definitely some poor booking going in.

[Guest art_vandelay]

Taker-Flair - This is two old guys who shouldn't be wrestling each other. If Taker wins, then where does Flair get his revenge for Taker beating up everybody? If Flair wins, then you have someone who doesn't wrestle full time going over one of your main guns. What's the point? Angle-Flair would have made more sense since Flair cost Angle his title shot at Mania. And the match could have been magical.

Oh my god, you are so right.  I can't believe the WWF didn't see this.  All this time they should have been building up a Taker/Kane feud too ever since Taker's heel turn.

 

Flair and Angle would have been great.  It would have been be this year's Angle vs. Benoit.  Instead we get a match with a poorly written story about UT beating people up again and Kane vs. Angle IV.  I can't believe they missed this one.

[Guest goodhelmet]

it's friggin common sense. Angle even stole Flair's Wooo mannerisms. Hell, make it an I quit match. Flair could have lost to a guy who truly needed the win to remain strong.

 

As for Taker, who cares? Seriously though, Taker could have faced Hall and played up the locker room leader crap. Since the nwo have been receiving face heat, the Taker could still remain heel. The match would suck but Austin wouldn't be shunted into the midcard. Taker could retain he "record" and the NWO angle could continue.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Well, Flair is Flair, but by that logic taker is taker and by any logic taker will drag flair down as far as anyone else on the planet. Or, in English, not even flair will be good. I dislike HHH but i recognise he'll work a fine match and austin can pull a good match out of his ass 9 times out of 10. The tag belts are screwed, surely the hardyz will be involved in some capacity? (even though they SUCK) I am NOT stoked about this one at all. Hogan/Rock is the only great thing that can come out of this WM, and it still has the potential to end up sucking. I'm concerned.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I think Flair might be able to pull something out of the bag.

There's still probably 3 or 4 undercard matches to be added which hopefully will be good.

 

Or am I clutching at straws?

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Or am I clutching at straws?

I would hope to GOD you are not, but my faith in the WWF is slapping me about telling me to leave and asking me why i didn't when they bought wcw having no access to it's major name talent except Booker, who they buried...etc...etc...In sum, Saturn kicks ass.

[Guest goodhelmet]

We're all clutching straws because  I think the realization is setting in that the card, as is, sucks. Noone wants to spend $40 on a mediocre product and for your money you deserve a quality show, especially with the talent they have available.

Maybe Vince will pull a Summerslam 95 (where he added the Shawn-Razor ladder match) and switch some things up to improve the card. Hell, put the Hardys and Duds (as they are planning) in another match with more ladders and tables. Die for our pleasure. Bill it as the last time ever! Something dammit!!!

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Maybe the workrate will be top notch as its WM, and we'll get Booker/Edge and Tajiri/Kidman/Hurricane for CW title.

Tajiri will defend. Won't he?!