Guest Incandenza Report post Posted September 25, 2002 I've listened to it myself, and I like it. I don't love it like so many critics do, but I've never been much of a Beck fan, anyway. I've always thought Beck was weak lyricist, Kinetic. Personally, I've never found his overly cute, free association rhymes as clever as half the rock geek populace seems to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted September 25, 2002 The lyrics on this album are awful, though, rather than just being goofy and irreverent. It's just one cliche after another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 20, 2002 I've reconsidered my stance on this album after listening to it half a dozen times over the last few days. I think it was the Blood On The Tracks comparison that threw me. While thematically similar, these two albums have few similarities beyond that. Blood... is an album of searching or "heading for another joint" as a romantic relationship deteriorates, but there's a lot more to it. It probably has more layers of meaning and interpretation than any other album in Dylan's considerable canon. Sea Change, on the other hand, is pretty one dimensional. There's none of the balladry of "Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts" or the raw emotion of "Idiot Wind" or "If You See Her, Say Hello." What it does have, though, is some of Beck's finest songs and undoubtedly his best showing as a lyricist, despite what I said earlier. The songs are probably too lush and orchestral for the type of album Beck obviously set out to make, but once you get past that you find some good songs yearning to break free. A few do, like "Lonesome Tears" and "Little One." Others aren't quite so fortunate, but there isn't anything particularly offensive on the album. I'd probably put it in my top ten of the year. I like it better than Interpol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted December 20, 2002 In spite of not having heard it in months, I feel safe in saying I think it's Beck's best album, meaning it's only okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 20, 2002 I think Odelay is more successful in accomplishing what Beck set out to accomplish. I'll break it down like this, as far as Beck's major label albums are concerned: Odelay>Mutations>Sea Change>Mellow Gold>Midnite Vultures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted December 20, 2002 Odelay>Mutations>Mellow Gold>Midnite Vultures>a lotta stuff>getting shot in the head>Sea Change yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted December 20, 2002 Okay, I'm no Beck fan, but, being friends with several Beck fans, I figure I could give this a shot. Sea Change>Mutations>Odelay>Midnite Vultures>having all my teeth extracted with electrically charged pliers>Mellow Gold That's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 20, 2002 Taking a hearty dump>Beck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted December 23, 2002 Am I the only person who likes Midnite Vultures? Sure, Prince at his worst does it better but... shoot, there was an ending to that sentence. I don't know, it doesn't mean a damn thing but if you have it's fun to listen to and if you're going to dance like a dorky white boy might as well do it to dorky white dance music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted December 25, 2002 I liked that one song where Beck completely cops Prince's sound. I don't recall the title, but I believe it had that one line about making a garbage man scream. EDIT: Though no other artist/band is better at riding Prince's jock than Ween. "L.M.L.Y.P" and "Roses are Free" being two particular favorites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 25, 2002 "Peaches and Cream." The Prince copping lasts about six minutes before segueing into a gospel choir that sings, "Keep your laplight trimmed and burning." It's one of the better songs on the album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites